It seems like the fine people at R&D have decided to mix up some of the rules with 9th edition, like they did with 6th, but not quite as drastically. Among the changes is adding another card subtype to the game: auras. Auras are the same thing as "local enchantments". Basically, local enchantments are now of the card type "Enchantment - Aura", and then in the card text it will tell players what the enchantment is attached to. Yes, it seems enchantments will now be "attached" to things, instead of "enchanting" them. It does make sense if you think about it, and follows along with equipment being added to the Core Set. Gatherer will soon be updated to reflect errata on all local enchantments.
The 9th FAQ will have an entry looking something like this:
Starting with Ninth Edition, all local enchantments are given the
subtype "Aura". Restrictions on what a local enchantment can enchant
have been moved from the type line to the rules text box. For most
changes, the wording in the text box is the same as what was on the type
line, such as "enchant creature." Auras with additional restriction on
what they can enchant will include these restrictions in the text box in
combination with the normal restriction. For example, a card previously
written as an "Enchant Creature" that "...can enchant only a creature
with converted mana cost 2 or less" is now written "Enchantment - Aura"
with the rules text "Enchant creature with converted mana cost 2 or less.".
Local enchantments prior to Ninth Edition will receive errata to add the
Aura subtype.
The Comprehensive Rules will soon be modified to show the change:
212.4c Enchantment subtypes are always a single word and are listed
after a long dash: "Enchantment - Aura." Each word after the dash is a
separate subtype. Enchantment subtypes are also called enchantment
types. Enchantments may have multiple subtypes.
212.4d Some enchantments have the subtype "Aura." Auras are also called
local enchantments. An Aura spell requires a target whose properties are
indicated by its enchant keyword ability: "enchant creature," "enchant
Forest," "enchant creature you control," and so on. An Aura permanent
comes into play attached to the permanent or player the spell targeted.
See rule XXX.XX, "Enchant."
Auras can only be attached to a permanent or player whose properties are
indicated by its enchant keyword ability. Other restrictions can limit
what a permanent can be enchanted by.
Example: An enchant artifact can enchant only artifact permanents. An
enchant artifact creature can enchant only artifact creature permanents.
An enchant player can enchant only a player. An enchant Swamp can
enchant only a Swamp permanent. An enchant red creature can enchant only
a creature that is red.
This information comes from a source who provided some 9th edition cards a few weeks ago, and is to be trusted, in case anyone thinks somebody could just whip up an update to the Comp Rules that looks that official.
I guess Serene Heart will be reworded "Destroy all auras."
Here's how Rancor will look (when it's reprinted soon grrr):
Rancor -
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+0 and has trample.
When Rancor is put into a graveyard from play, return Rancor to its owner's hand.
That's...incredibly stupid. I don't get the point, and "Aura" sounds incredibly corny to me. Was there really that big of a problem with people not understanding local enchantments? Or, was there really a big flavor issue with having Enchant _______? I just don't see why they need to make this change, and I honestly don't like it.
just what i need before bed. a headache.
ok its really not a big deal. if they do a 6th again i'll remember to ignore it till morning.
the interesting thing with this is that every now and again we WILL be getting encchantments that have multiple sub types. personally i'm hoping for some "enchant world"s to pop up. but i have no idea how it'll be worded
I really don't know why... but I really have no response to this... just... wow...
Was Local Enchantment really that much of a problem?
Other than that I really don't see how this makes things easier... *blink* I'm honestly kind of stunned
thank you for another pointless change wizards!!!! how is it that r&d can possibly so out of touch with the mainstream? i can only assume that ravnica will contains somthing that makes this make sense
so they add trample and equipment and make 9th less n00by only to add aura. that is strange because i never had a problem with enchant creatures (i was a n00b when 8th came out) but had more of a problem with trample
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Quote from hotshizzle »
<hotshizle> WINE IN FRONT OF MEAL
<hotshizle> i think
I'd say that the general concensus is that when you change something, you should only change it to fix something, or to make something easier to understand. This it seems does neither. I wonder, did R&D use sample players not affiliated with WotC to test this change out?
No big deal. It's not the end of the world. After the change to the legend rule, the massive use of subtypes for cards that've never had them before, etc. in the CoK block, it doesn't surprise me they did something like this for 9th Edition.
On the topic of that little footnote on the bottom of R_E's post, what wording problem is R_E talking about?
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Winner of the SCG Invitational, Somerset, NJ, Jul 26-28, 2013
Top 8 of SCG Invitational, Las Vegas, NV, Dec 13-15, 2013
Top 8 of SCG Invitational, Somerset, NJ, Aug 28-30, 2015
Winner of SCG Worcester Team Sealed Open with Gerard Fabiano and Curtis Sheu, September 28, 2013
I guess there will be a use for this new rules when Ravnica comes out. Something like legendary creatures (or permanents) and intants/interrupts. Maybe R&D will come up with some other kind of local enchantments, and they didnt wanted to mess things up...
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
"Será cuando, cuando sea Y mi cabeza caiga Cuando mi sangre corra
Cuando a tu memoria llegue Y domine en la penumbra O el caos termine..."
i think it is probably just a way to clear up things like "search your library for an enchantment and put it into your hand"... well... an Enchant Creature card doesn't say enchantment on it... rules question... blah blah blah.
This is another one of those keywords that belongs in the "completely unnecessary" list, right alongside Sweep. Honestly, I never had a problem with Enchant Creature or Enchant Whatever when I first got started. I had a bigger problem understanding First Strike.
change for the sake of change is usually not a good thing. The only thing that it gives them is a new way to classify a certain subtype of cards which can be nice in exploring unused design spaces. just makes future templating easier for when they make the aura matters block...
EDIT: it can also make cards like Serene Heart easier to code on Modo...
Answer me one question, and only one, and I will know if I like this or not.
Will it say "target" in reference to the permanet it's going to enchant? Because whenever somebody asks if something targets, the answer is "It targets if it says it targets (The exception is local enchantments on the stack; they target whatever they are going to enchant)
Here's a hint: I hate typing that exception every damn time. Please say it has the word "target" somewhere in the rules text.
That's on their to-do list, right after...well, the point is it's not that important. And who says there is a problem? "Return" is far more flavorful on a card titled "Raise Dead" then "put".
I kind of understand this, just last week I had to teach someone who kept complaining of losing games that Disenchant could destroy her opponents Midnight Covenant. Which then immediatly led to an argument between her and her opponent about how Disenchant says "Enchantment" and Midnight Covenant isn't an enchantment, it was so fun.
I kind of understand this, just last week I had to teach someone who kept complaining of losing games that Disenchantcould destroy her opponents Midnight Covenant. Which then immediatly led to an argument between her and her opponent about how Disenchant says "Enchantment" and Midnight Covenant isn't an enchantment, it was so fun.
*shudders*
so i guess the reasons for the change so far are:
1) see above
2) easier to template for an 'aura matters' small set
3) easier to code cards on Modo that distinguish between Global and Local enchantments.
anything else?
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
I am looking for Date Stamped promos from Khans of Tarkir block so I can finish my set. Check my wants if you have any.
Currently offering 2 non-foil Kolighan's Command for a Date Stamped foil!
I would guess it has something to do with something there doing with ravnica since they usaly like to do rules changes in the core sets. But it could just be to clear up all the mess with local enchantments. It sounds like a stupid and unnecesary idea but I'ma wait till rav before I totaly dismiss it.
Auras can only be attached to a permanent or player whose properties are indicated by its enchant keyword ability. Other restrictions can limit what a permanent can be enchanted by.
Man, I love it when WOTC shakes up the wordings and things. I'm not sure why, I guess I just like the novelty.
Quoted for truth, in my humble opinion.
I love changes, and Magic is a game of constant shaping and fixing. At the very least, we always discuss this stuff for quite some time. And everything worth long discussions is welcome in my book.
The 9th FAQ will have an entry looking something like this:
The Comprehensive Rules will soon be modified to show the change:
This information comes from a source who provided some 9th edition cards a few weeks ago, and is to be trusted, in case anyone thinks somebody could just whip up an update to the Comp Rules that looks that official.
I guess Serene Heart will be reworded "Destroy all auras."
Here's how Rancor will look (when it's reprinted soon grrr):
Rancor -
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+0 and has trample.
When Rancor is put into a graveyard from play, return Rancor to its owner's hand.
Discuss!
Personal note to MaRo: When are you going to fix the wording problem with effects that put a card from graveyard into a player's hand, which I've been bugging you to do for at least five years?
.
That's...incredibly stupid. I don't get the point, and "Aura" sounds incredibly corny to me. Was there really that big of a problem with people not understanding local enchantments? Or, was there really a big flavor issue with having Enchant _______? I just don't see why they need to make this change, and I honestly don't like it.
ok its really not a big deal. if they do a 6th again i'll remember to ignore it till morning.
the interesting thing with this is that every now and again we WILL be getting encchantments that have multiple sub types. personally i'm hoping for some "enchant world"s to pop up. but i have no idea how it'll be worded
#2. Dungeon Keeper Ami; Proving that sometimes the best Villians are the ones who used to be Heros.
#3. Ow, My Sanity: There are things man was not meant to love.
Was Local Enchantment really that much of a problem?
Other than that I really don't see how this makes things easier... *blink* I'm honestly kind of stunned
crap,
e;f;b by a good few minutes
(>'.')> <('.'<) <( '.' )> <('.'<) (>'.')>
'+<( '.' )>=<(*.*)>
KIRBY OWNS YOU!!!!
as does trix
#2. Dungeon Keeper Ami; Proving that sometimes the best Villians are the ones who used to be Heros.
#3. Ow, My Sanity: There are things man was not meant to love.
Now we have Equipment, Arcane and Auras. Yihee.
(Also known as Xenphire)
On the topic of that little footnote on the bottom of R_E's post, what wording problem is R_E talking about?
Top 8 of SCG Invitational, Las Vegas, NV, Dec 13-15, 2013
Top 8 of SCG Invitational, Somerset, NJ, Aug 28-30, 2015
Winner of SCG Worcester Team Sealed Open with Gerard Fabiano and Curtis Sheu, September 28, 2013
twitter
Y mi cabeza caiga
Cuando mi sangre corra
Cuando a tu memoria llegue
Y domine en la penumbra
O el caos termine..."
—Sigma/Lambda
this just clears it up.
oh.. and thanx to R_E and his source! cool info!
-Cannibal-
EDIT: it can also make cards like Serene Heart easier to code on Modo...
Currently offering 2 non-foil Kolighan's Command for a Date Stamped foil!
convert bulk into good cards? PucaTrade - https://pucatrade.com/invite/gift/21195
Ebay - decks/Promos/DVDs
Trade thread (constantly updated)
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/trading-post/details/337-pokerbob1s-casual-trading-emporium
Answer me one question, and only one, and I will know if I like this or not.
Will it say "target" in reference to the permanet it's going to enchant? Because whenever somebody asks if something targets, the answer is "It targets if it says it targets (The exception is local enchantments on the stack; they target whatever they are going to enchant)
Here's a hint: I hate typing that exception every damn time. Please say it has the word "target" somewhere in the rules text.
That's on their to-do list, right after...well, the point is it's not that important. And who says there is a problem? "Return" is far more flavorful on a card titled "Raise Dead" then "put".
I am also a DCI Level 1 Judge, if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask them in the Rulings forum.
*shudders*
so i guess the reasons for the change so far are:
1) see above
2) easier to template for an 'aura matters' small set
3) easier to code cards on Modo that distinguish between Global and Local enchantments.
anything else?
Currently offering 2 non-foil Kolighan's Command for a Date Stamped foil!
convert bulk into good cards? PucaTrade - https://pucatrade.com/invite/gift/21195
Ebay - decks/Promos/DVDs
Trade thread (constantly updated)
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/trading-post/details/337-pokerbob1s-casual-trading-emporium
Will we get non un-set enchant players now
Quoted for truth, in my humble opinion.
I love changes, and Magic is a game of constant shaping and fixing. At the very least, we always discuss this stuff for quite some time. And everything worth long discussions is welcome in my book.
Who knows...I can see it happening.
I am also a DCI Level 1 Judge, if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask them in the Rulings forum.