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Old 10-07-2008, 09:35 AM   #1
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Default [EDH] Staples: Must haves, A newbie's guide

Hello everyone.

I am putting together a list of staple cards, for those like me, who may not have started since the begining, , 2nd quarter or heck 3rd quarter of the magic history and who may not remember some of the great cards that came out before.

Everything from artifacts, enchantments, lands, sorceries, instants AND planeswalkers based on colors. whether they be accelerants, bombs, or just beatsticks for cheap, we will have them here. Just reply here and I will add them to the list after short discussions. I will start with a few that I know and if you have any objections on any cards on the list, just post it up here and will will discuss it for the betterment of all.
Lets split them by color:

Best Commanders by popular vote and mention on the forums :
Jhoira of the Ghitu - Kaervek the merciless - Doran, the siege tower - Gaddock Teeg - Scion of the Ur-Dragon - Zur the enchanter - Lyzolda, the blood witch

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Vigor - Eternal Witness - Yavimaya Elder - Explosive vegetation - Genesis
Worldly tutor - Sylvan scrying - Reap and Sow - Life from the loam
Survival of the fitest - Harmonize - Chord of Calling - Sylvan library - Garruk Wildspeaker

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Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir - Arcanis the Omnipotent - Empress Galina - Merchant scroll
Careful consideration - Tidings - Mystical teachings - Gifts ungiven - Ponder- Brainstorm
Concentrate- Cryptic Command- Sift- Fact or Fiction
Hinder- Mana Drain - Rewind- Counterspell- Desertion -Spin into myth - bribery

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Visara the dreadful - Avatar of Woe - Kagemaro, first to suffer - Graveborn Muse
Dread - Kokusho, the evening star - Decree of pain
Pyrexian arena - Demonic tutor - Vampiric tutor - Diabolic tutor - Beseech the queen
Promise of Power - Mutilate- Damnation - Liliana Vess - Decree of pain - Necropotence

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Flameblast dragon- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - Greater Gargadon - Akroma, Angel of Fury
Fireball- Startstorm- Word of seizing - Bogardan Hellkite - Ryusei, the falling star

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Akroma, Angel of Wrath - Eternal Dragon - Exalted angel - Condemn- Oblivion ring
Wrath of god - Austere Command - Oblation- Swords to Plowshares - Hallowed Burial - Enlightened Tutor - Catastrophe - Elspeth, Knight-Errant - Reveillark

Artifact

Solemn simulacrum - Sword of fire and ice - Sword of light and shadow
Loxodon warhammer- Sensei's Divining Top - Nevinyrral's disk
Journeyer's Kite - Mind's Eye - Oblivion stone - Proteus Staff - Lightning Greaves - Vedalken orrery - Sundering titan - Coalition relic - Platinum Angel - Mana Vault - Sol Ring - Grim Monolith

Multicolor
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Spiritmonger - Vindicate - Pernicious Deed - Savage twister - Mortify
Putrefy- Terminate- Crime/Punishment -Bant Charm

Lands
Reflecting Pool - Wasteland- Forbidden orchard - Volrath Stronghold - Maze of Ith - kor Haven - Cabal Coffers
Grand coliseum - City of brass - Vesuva- Vivid Grove
Vivid Crag - Vivid Marsh - Vivid Creek - Vivid Meadow - Tolaria West
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:57 AM   #2
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Protean Hulk is banned, but other than that I don't see any problems with this list.
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Protean Hulk is banned...

You can add:

White:
Condemn
Exalted Angel

Blue:
Fact or Fiction
Desertion

Black:
Damnation
Mutilate

Red:
Starstorm
Word of Seizing

Green:
Eternal Witness
Explosive Vegetation

Multicolor:
Savage Twister
Mortify

Artifact:
Nevinyrral's Disk
Journeyer's Kite

Land:
Kor Haven
Volrath's Stronghold

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Old 10-07-2008, 11:44 AM   #4
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Do not forget Mind's Eye. It's probably the best nonblue card draw in the format.

Genesis needs to be on the list; he's best buds with Survival of the Fittest. I've found Indrik Stomphowler to be terrific.

Red also has two complete combo/badass engines: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror-Breaker and Squee, Goblin Nabob (see Survival of the Fittest again). Also, I think Greater Gargadon is one of the best sac-engines, and Akroma, Angel of Fury is really hard to deal with outside of mass removal.

You missed two of white's best spells in this format: Swords to Plowshares and Hallowed Burial. Both are great at screwing up generals. Eternal Dragon and Enlightened Tutor should make this list, too.

I wouldn't consider Spiritmonger a staple. He's great but there are more important multicolored cards: Putrefy, Izzet Chronarch, Kitchen Finks, Terminate, Crime/Punishment to name a few. I think some Alara cards are going to be tremendous in this format.

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Old 10-07-2008, 11:50 AM   #5
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Also, for Blue, Tolaria West
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:00 PM   #6
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A few comments:

Kor Haven is a little sub par. Best to run Maze of ith or Icy manipulator unless you are running mono-white, otherwise it will tie up mana.

Izzet chronarch is the same thing. Rather than run a 2/2 5cc creature with that ability, I would rather run another instant/sorcery for acceleration or a bigger stick for that cost.

Tell me what the rest of you think?
- Note: Added Oversoul of Dusk. Pro three colors is always great..
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:24 PM   #7
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You really want to have stuff that either searches your library, or returns something from your grave. That way, you have more control over the cards you have in your hand. Each of them is only once in your deck, so if you need one, you want to tutor.
For tutors I'd like to add:
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Demonic Tutor
Diabolic Tutor
Beseech the Queen
(Just found out you already use the above)
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Ponder

Furthermore, you want to reclaim some cards.
Flashback is a great way to do this. A newer version is Unearth, of which we will see more.

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Entomb
Buried Alive
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Lava Dart
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Think Twice

And of course (mass) removal:
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Terror
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Firestorm
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Pongify
Capsize
One request: Could you please put the cards in your first post in card tags? In a format like EDH, your deck will contain at least 50 different cards, so it's nice to be able to read the cards.
One more idea: Could you collect the best legends that can be Elder Dragons? I'm very curious. I know Doran is a great general for its ability, but I find Lyzolda, the Blood Witch very interesting too. In a dedicated black/red deck, you can get massive card advantage, while burning away the opposition.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:46 PM   #8
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Unfortunately the text box is limited so I cannot add any more text verticaly. I will have to add card tags around each card name and it will take too much room. I will try, but i might end up running out of text room all together.
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:58 PM   #9
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You missed Hinder quite possibly the best counterspell outside of Desertion in the format.
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Added Hinder, Mana drain and Counterspell.

Keep em comin fellas...
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A few comments:

Kor Haven is a little sub par. Best to run Maze of ith or Icy manipulator unless you are running mono-white, otherwise it will tie up mana.

Izzet chronarch is the same thing. Rather than run a 2/2 5cc creature with that ability, I would rather run another instant/sorcery for acceleration or a bigger stick for that cost.

Tell me what the rest of you think?
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Kor Haven is anything but subpar. Have you ever played with it?

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Old 10-07-2008, 01:45 PM   #12
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WOOPS, okay, I get it now. kor Haven is definetly staying on. LOL, blocking and killing off a creature for free... I are teh convertedz. I must have misread it at first.
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:02 PM   #13
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Oblivion Stone poor man's disk
Academy Ruins self explaining I guess.

if you have problems with the text box size use spoiler tags.
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Sylvan Library and Abundance are two cards I always add if I'm playing Green.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:20 PM   #15
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you can also evade having to say (card)card(/card) again and again like this:
[cards ]Card1
Card2
Card3[/cards ]

It will look like this:
Card1
Card2
Card3

And if I wanted to keep your first post clear, it may look like this:
Best Generals  
1 Jhoira of the Ghitu
1 Doran, the siege tower
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scion of the Ur-Dragon
1 Zur the enchanter
1 Lyzolda, the blood witch
EDH List  
GREEN
1 Vigor
1 Eternal Witness
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Explosive vegetation
1 Genesis
1 Worldly tutor
1 Sylvan scrying
1 Reap and Sow
1 Life from the loam
1 Survival of the fitest
Etcetera

If you quote my text, you will see that the code isn't that hard.
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