It's that time of year again, the annual VILLAINS OF GOTHAM MEETING ON HOW TO KILL BATMAN (VOGMOHTKB). It's when all the villains of Gotham gather together to discuss, well... how to kill Batman. But this time, the Bat has caught wind of the meeting because of finding one of the brochures on a corkboard in a bar. Not exactly discrete.
BUT EITHER WAY, this has lead to him and his trusty allies finding his way into your meeting, infiltrating amongst you. How do you know? Well... there was a pile of bruised, unconscious henchmen outside. Stupid henchmen! If you want something done, do it yourself!
It's time that you Villains defeat Batman once and for all! Kill him before he kills you! Unfortunately due to VOGMOHTKB rules, this doesn't mean a wild killing spree. This means a democratically decided murdering process. So get to it!
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[Stolen from Kraj]
Welcome to BATMAN Mafia, a game for new players. If you are familiar at all with mafia, the information in this post should be all you need to know to get started. If you need to learn the very basics, though, I strongly suggest you view this Tutorial and this introduction. The following list will be kept current throughout the game, so you can always check this first post for information:
Present Plotters:
Rook
Infinis
Skander
Lordpenguin The Waffle KingSilent ProphetSeraph Prime JqlGirl Ace Samoht
Sepiroth Owa
With 7 Alive, it's 4 to Lynch!
Deposed Despots:
Edghyatt, Catwoman, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1
kpaca, Poison Ivy, Townie Doctor - Lynched Day 2
ein, The Penguin, Vanilla Townie - Night Killed on Night 2 Ssbm Rocks1Kami of Lunacy, Bane, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 3 mandolin_summer Some One, The Riddler, Townie Cop - Night Killed on Night 3
Moderator Status: Superjuicy
GOLDEN RULES [Stolen from Kraj]:
(i.e., the things that apply to every game of mafia.)
Do not discuss this game outside the thread with anyone. Not your friends, not your mother, not another forum member who isn’t playing, not a dead player, not a living player while you’re dead. No one. The only exceptions are me and whatever is instructed in your role PM. This applies to any game in progress; don’t talk about other running games in this one, even if you aren’t playing in that one.
Do not quote any PMs from me, nor paraphrase too closely, lest I smite you.
Do not edit or delete your posts, lest I smite you.
Obey the Forum Rules. This especially includes flaming. Play nice, kids. The only exception being you may double post if necessary, but please make an effort to respond to things in one post. Use the multiquote button or copy/paste.
Do not lurk, lest I smite you. You must maintain a reasonable level of active participation in the game. We understand that life gets in the way of mafia. However, please respect the other players and I by keeping us informed. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 72-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM the mod. If you feel unable to continue to play the game at the commitment level expected, request to be replaced. Do not simply vanish, unless under life-threatening peril. And I’ll just put this warning out there now: if ever I suspect lurking/replacing is being used as a survival tactic, you will be modkilled.
Make your votes in bold. If you do not bold your vote, it may not be counted. Please be attentive and unvote (in bold), if necessary, before casting a new vote. If you do not unvote first, your new vote may not be counted.
Ask the moderator, me, if you are unsure about anything. If you post a request of the moderator in the thread, please bold it.
Have fun! Otherwise, why play?
Other Rules You Should Know:
Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once a lynch threshold has been reached nothing can undo it. You may continue to post until night.
You may Vote: No Lynch
If a deadline is reached with no majority, the day will end without a lynch. Deadlines will be set at moderator discretion.
Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing. A simple “Bah” post containing no relevant information is acceptable.
If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. If I don’t receive your choice, nothing will happen. If you wish to not use a night action, please tell me so; don’t just let the deadline expire. I like nights to be as short as possible.
ROLES
This is a very basic game of mafia. I am not going to tell you every role that could be in the game, but complicated roles or weird variations do not exist. Absolutionis’ list is a very good guide for what roles you can expect in any newbie game.
The town win condition is: "Eliminate the forces of good infiltrating your meeting! (Kill all mafia, including the goddamn Batman)."
A vanilla role PM contains some flavor and indicates they don't really do anything at night.
Vote: mandolin_summer for her vicious shunning of capital letters.
(FoS: kpaca for the same thing)
Ha ha! Thanks to a typo in the player list, I have avoided your trap.
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The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
Vote Edghyatt because I can't for the life of me pronounce that.
My, I'm flattered. It's not supposed to be pronounced. It's meant to be an unfathomable, true name of nature. And, FEI (for everyone's information) it's simply read as written... as long as you don't read it in English.:D
That's subjective... and I didn't made it. It was my Economics teacher who referred to the Waffle House as the 'Awful House'. I thought it was genius.
OMGUBR! (Oh My God You Both Rule!)
I always wanted to share this: back in elementary school I had this Italian girl as a classmate, named Fiamma, whose nickname was Mafia, and she hated it... I also thought it was genius!
I always wanted to share this: back in elementary school I had this Italian girl as a classmate, named Fiamma, whose nickname was Mafia, and she hated it... I also thought it was genius!
I am petitioning for the removal of all other signature petitions. WoTC doesn't give a crap about them. Get over yourself and sig this to join the cause.
The heinous villains quickly went about their evil deeds, beginning their meeting by exchanging pictures of young girls.
"Wow this is the first vote count I've ever made!" Vote Count:
The Waffle King (1) - Edghyatt
mandolin_summer (1) - Rook
Ace (1) - kpaca
Edghyatt (2) - Skander, Ssbm Rocks1
ein (1) - Sephiroth Owa
With 12 Alive, it's 7 to Lynch!
Mod's note: Apparently I have to replace mandolin_summer already.
The post was edited to bold the vote after the votecount was put up.
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The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
The Waffle King: Editing posts is STRICTLY against game rules. This is your only warning, any more editing of posts will result in immediate modkill.
The same goes for the rest of you. NO EDITING OF POSTS, the warning I gave to The Waffle King counts for all of you, so basically if you edit, you die.
Remember:
NO deleting posts
NO editing posts
If you forgot to bold your vote, or need to clarify something in your post, then you should double post, particularly by starting with the acronym EBWODP (which stands for "Edit by way or double post").
So how long do these things usually take to get going over here?
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The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
unvote, Vote Skander, fos: Lord Penguin and Waffle King.
@Lord Penguin: The fact that you refuse to participate in random voting comes across as newb scum play to me, and as such you have drawn my fos.
@Skander: I think its ridiculous to have someone at 3 votes during a random voting phase, and the fact that you noticed Waffle Kings vote, and did nothing to remove your own strikes me as a very anti town move.
@Waffle King: I'm giving you the noob pass as you've already had a editing blunder, but your extremely close to being a vote target as well.
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@Skander: I think its ridiculous to have someone at 3 votes during a random voting phase, and the fact that you noticed Waffle Kings vote, and did nothing to remove your own strikes me as a very anti town move.
With 7 needed I didn't find anything wrong with leaving my vote in there (and still don't). We all know we're still in random so nothing is going to happen until actual concerns are brought up. It's not like he is going to jump from 3 to 7 just because nobody can pronounce his name (and especially now that we can).
With 7 needed I didn't find anything wrong with leaving my vote in there (and still don't). We all know we're still in random so nothing is going to happen until actual concerns are brought up. It's not like he is going to jump from 3 to 7 just because nobody can pronounce his name (and especially now that we can).
Several things:
1.) I'm no longer in random.
2.) So you think three votes is a good number to pile on someone for nothing? What do you hope to accomplish by this?
3.) If you can pronounce his name now, and that was the reason for your vote, why is you vote still there?
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2.) So you think three votes is a good number to pile on someone for nothing? What do you hope to accomplish by this?
As I made clear there was no reason to unvote because at the time we were still in random and to me at least it made no difference if he had 3 votes or none.
3.) If you can pronounce his name now, and that was the reason for your vote, why is you vote still there?
I hope you're joking on this last one.
However due to the validity of your point that we seem to no longer be in random I shall unvote.
Hey, kpaca, where's that shoe-eating? I've searched YouTube, but no luck so far. Is it hosted on another site?
it was from another mafia game unvote, vote The Waffle King
He bandwagoned on edgy in the random voting phase, seems a bit suspicious. FOS kpaca
Your case against skander makes it seem like you're trying to make a valid argument for an invalid reason. Seems scummy. Just because Skander left his vote on edgy, doesn't mean hes scum.
'Edgy' as in the adjective for 'edge' (which has a soft 'g', or 'dj')? No. As far as I remember, 'gear' has a strong 'g' (as in 'game').
My real name is Edgar, so that's where it comes from.
I'm almost finished with Lost's second season! Yay!
unvote, Vote Skander, fos: Lord Penguin and Waffle King.
@Lord Penguin: The fact that you refuse to participate in random voting comes across as newb scum play to me, and as such you have drawn my fos.
Huh? Clearly you are being selective/not reading the thread, or you will have noticed that others did not participate in the inane "random vote phase". By your logic, you have thus wrapped up most of the scum. This play is very aggressive (as it is an overly-sensitive-towards-one-player reaction based on something that happened during the joke phase of the game), and I don't like it.
@Skander: I think its ridiculous to have someone at 3 votes during a random voting phase, and the fact that you noticed Waffle Kings vote, and did nothing to remove your own strikes me as a very anti town move.
Again... a very aggressive play based on joke phase material. You may be out of the joke phase, but you don't have the ability to decide when everyone is out of that phase unilaterally.
@Waffle King: I'm giving you the noob pass as you've already had a editing blunder, but your extremely close to being a vote target as well.
Trigger happy, much?
Unilateral decisions of the game state, overly sensitive and aggressive play... maybe it is you who are scum and trying to push us around?
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The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
It's my decision when I want to leave the random vote phase, not a democratic process. Also I am very much reading the thread, Lord Penguin is the only one who openly said he was not going to be voting, are you reading?
Also I don't see how I've been sensitive, but I do plan on playing aggressively and displaying my thoughts openely, as is my style. Further more it appears as though you are saying that nothing can be determined from the random voting phase, not only is this bad logic (cause when would we determine anything?), but if you truly believe this I think you should read Refridgerator Mafia.
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It's my decision when I want to leave the random vote phase, not a democratic process. Also I am very much reading the thread, Lord Penguin is the only one who openly said he was not going to be voting, are you reading?
Well, that's great and all, but you didn't tell anyone you'd changed, and used the fact that you had, secretly, all of a sudden become serious. It would be like me putting you in jail, and then telling you a day later, "oh by the way, that thing you did two weeks ago? I just decided that was against the law."
And this is the Lordpenguin post I assume you are referring to:
Quote from LP »
There are too many people for me to make any decisions at the moment.
Hello all.
I am not sure that means what you think it means.
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I am noting here that you only stated you were out of that phase after you posted your rant.
Also, saying you don't want to participate in a certain, special way in the joke part of the game makes you scum? Is that what you're saying? Because if so, oh noes! I am sure to be labeled as scum in every game I play then!
Also I don't see how I've been sensitive, but I do plan on playing aggressively and displaying my thoughts openely, as is my style. Further more it appears as though you are saying that nothing can be determined from the random voting phase, not only is this bad logic (cause when would we determine anything?), but if you truly believe this I think you should read Refridgerator Mafia.
I am indeed saying that very little can be ascertained from that phase. How do you determine exactly what is valuable? Unless someone is a terrible player, how do you determine if what they say is a joke, or actually serious? The signal to noise is so bad, it would seem that placing real weight on anything said there is a bit presumptuous. It might be useful on day two or three in hindsight, but if that's all you've got to go on, meh.
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The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
If you didn't understand that I was being serious by casting a well thought out vote and two FOS's I see that as your problem, I see no reason to make an announcement as such. Furthermore I'm not saying outright that LP is scum, or i would have likely voted for him instead. His actions have raised my supicions. If you think its impossible to determine scummy behaviour early in the game, I suggest you read some other games.
Also when are we supposed to draw our conclusions since it seems as though you think we need to be playing this game in set phases and we all have to be at the same spot.
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If you didn't understand that I was being serious by casting a well thought out vote and two FOS's I see that as your problem, I see no reason to make an announcement as such.
I suppose I need help, then, getting the "full serious" from a post that opens with a statement that the most recent votecount didn't include your shoe.
Furthermore I'm not saying outright that LP is scum, or i would have likely voted for him instead. His actions have raised my supicions. If you think its impossible to determine scummy behaviour early in the game, I suggest you read some other games.
Please point out where I said it was "impossible" to determine scummy behaviour in the joke phase.
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I am indeed saying that very little can be ascertained from that phase. How do you determine exactly what is valuable? Unless someone is a terrible player, how do you determine if what they say is a joke, or actually serious? The signal to noise is so bad, it would seem that placing real weight on anything said there is a bit presumptuous. It might be useful on day two or three in hindsight, but if that's all you've got to go on, meh.
That is my interpretation of this.
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BUT EITHER WAY, this has lead to him and his trusty allies finding his way into your meeting, infiltrating amongst you. How do you know? Well... there was a pile of bruised, unconscious henchmen outside. Stupid henchmen! If you want something done, do it yourself!
It's time that you Villains defeat Batman once and for all! Kill him before he kills you! Unfortunately due to VOGMOHTKB rules, this doesn't mean a wild killing spree. This means a democratically decided murdering process. So get to it!
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[Stolen from Kraj]
Welcome to BATMAN Mafia, a game for new players. If you are familiar at all with mafia, the information in this post should be all you need to know to get started. If you need to learn the very basics, though, I strongly suggest you view this Tutorial and this introduction. The following list will be kept current throughout the game, so you can always check this first post for information:
Present Plotters:
Rook
Infinis
Skander
Lordpenguin
The Waffle KingSilent ProphetSeraph PrimeJqlGirlAceSamohtSepiroth Owa
With 7 Alive, it's 4 to Lynch!
Deposed Despots:
Edghyatt, Catwoman, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1
kpaca, Poison Ivy, Townie Doctor - Lynched Day 2
ein, The Penguin, Vanilla Townie - Night Killed on Night 2
Ssbm Rocks1Kami of Lunacy, Bane, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 3mandolin_summerSome One, The Riddler, Townie Cop - Night Killed on Night 3Moderator Status: Superjuicy
GOLDEN RULES [Stolen from Kraj]:
(i.e., the things that apply to every game of mafia.)
Do not discuss this game outside the thread with anyone. Not your friends, not your mother, not another forum member who isn’t playing, not a dead player, not a living player while you’re dead. No one. The only exceptions are me and whatever is instructed in your role PM. This applies to any game in progress; don’t talk about other running games in this one, even if you aren’t playing in that one.
Do not quote any PMs from me, nor paraphrase too closely, lest I smite you.
Do not edit or delete your posts, lest I smite you.
Obey the Forum Rules. This especially includes flaming. Play nice, kids. The only exception being you may double post if necessary, but please make an effort to respond to things in one post. Use the multiquote button or copy/paste.
Do not lurk, lest I smite you. You must maintain a reasonable level of active participation in the game. We understand that life gets in the way of mafia. However, please respect the other players and I by keeping us informed. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 72-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread or PM the mod. If you feel unable to continue to play the game at the commitment level expected, request to be replaced. Do not simply vanish, unless under life-threatening peril. And I’ll just put this warning out there now: if ever I suspect lurking/replacing is being used as a survival tactic, you will be modkilled.
Make your votes in bold. If you do not bold your vote, it may not be counted. Please be attentive and unvote (in bold), if necessary, before casting a new vote. If you do not unvote first, your new vote may not be counted.
Ask the moderator, me, if you are unsure about anything. If you post a request of the moderator in the thread, please bold it.
Have fun! Otherwise, why play?
Other Rules You Should Know:
Lynching will require a simple majority of votes. Once a lynch threshold has been reached nothing can undo it. You may continue to post until night.
You may Vote: No Lynch
If a deadline is reached with no majority, the day will end without a lynch. Deadlines will be set at moderator discretion.
Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing. A simple “Bah” post containing no relevant information is acceptable.
If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. If I don’t receive your choice, nothing will happen. If you wish to not use a night action, please tell me so; don’t just let the deadline expire. I like nights to be as short as possible.
ROLES
This is a very basic game of mafia. I am not going to tell you every role that could be in the game, but complicated roles or weird variations do not exist. Absolutionis’ list is a very good guide for what roles you can expect in any newbie game.
The town win condition is: "Eliminate the forces of good infiltrating your meeting! (Kill all mafia, including the goddamn Batman)."
A vanilla role PM contains some flavor and indicates they don't really do anything at night.
I WANT YOUR DEATH BARONS! Message me if you want to get rid of them!
I WANT YOUR DEATH BARONS! Message me if you want to get rid of them!
With 12 Alive, it's 7 to Lynch!
I WANT YOUR DEATH BARONS! Message me if you want to get rid of them!
I like 4/4s for 7.
(FoS: kpaca for the same thing)
Ha ha! Thanks to a typo in the player list, I have avoided your trap.
The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
Vote kpaca's shoe, cause it's not eaten yet
My, I'm flattered. It's not supposed to be pronounced. It's meant to be an unfathomable, true name of nature. And, FEI (for everyone's information) it's simply read as written... as long as you don't read it in English.:D
That's subjective... and I didn't made it. It was my Economics teacher who referred to the Waffle House as the 'Awful House'. I thought it was genius.
OMGUBR! (Oh My God You Both Rule!)
I always wanted to share this: back in elementary school I had this Italian girl as a classmate, named Fiamma, whose nickname was Mafia, and she hated it... I also thought it was genius!
I like 4/4s for 7.
Was she scummy?
PUN ALERT
Oh no, she was (is) hot! I have some (decent) pictures if you're interested (not from elementary school, these are from high school)...:D
I like 4/4s for 7.
Edghyatt has pictures of mafia... anyone else thinks this sounds scummy?
Only if she isn't hot
I'm innocent! Unless you think she's not hot (hey, it's a matter of taste). I'll delete them soon, though...
I like 4/4s for 7.
I am petitioning for the removal of all other signature petitions. WoTC doesn't give a crap about them.
Get over yourself and sig this to join the cause.
"Wow this is the first vote count I've ever made!" Vote Count:
The Waffle King (1) - Edghyatt
mandolin_summer (1) - Rook
Ace (1) - kpaca
Edghyatt (2) - Skander, Ssbm Rocks1
ein (1) - Sephiroth Owa
With 12 Alive, it's 7 to Lynch!
Mod's note: Apparently I have to replace mandolin_summer already.
I WANT YOUR DEATH BARONS! Message me if you want to get rid of them!
Nice.
I lol'd
I think you misssed this.
Who's going to replace?
The post was edited to bold the vote after the votecount was put up.
The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
Ah, my bad. Isn't that illegal?
vote rook because of the awful muggy swamy smell coming from his area in fla.
The Waffle King: Editing posts is STRICTLY against game rules. This is your only warning, any more editing of posts will result in immediate modkill.
The same goes for the rest of you. NO EDITING OF POSTS, the warning I gave to The Waffle King counts for all of you, so basically if you edit, you die.
Remember:
NO deleting posts
NO editing posts
If you forgot to bold your vote, or need to clarify something in your post, then you should double post, particularly by starting with the acronym EBWODP (which stands for "Edit by way or double post").
I WANT YOUR DEATH BARONS! Message me if you want to get rid of them!
And please remember to bold your votes.
Even if I see the post, I will not count your vote unless it's bolded, to remain consistent.
I WANT YOUR DEATH BARONS! Message me if you want to get rid of them!
Or maybe eye eye. Hmmm.
While we're on the subject, how do you pronounce Edghyatt?
ed-GUEE (as in 'gear')-at... there you go:D.
Now that you can pronounce it (it's two syllables actually, the last one being the strong one), you can hate me a tad less:frown:
/sarcasm
I like 4/4s for 7.
From 100 to 99 on the hate-o-meter.
is it pronounced exactly like edgy then?
The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
unvote, Vote Skander, fos: Lord Penguin and Waffle King.
@Lord Penguin: The fact that you refuse to participate in random voting comes across as newb scum play to me, and as such you have drawn my fos.
@Skander: I think its ridiculous to have someone at 3 votes during a random voting phase, and the fact that you noticed Waffle Kings vote, and did nothing to remove your own strikes me as a very anti town move.
@Waffle King: I'm giving you the noob pass as you've already had a editing blunder, but your extremely close to being a vote target as well.
With 7 needed I didn't find anything wrong with leaving my vote in there (and still don't). We all know we're still in random so nothing is going to happen until actual concerns are brought up. It's not like he is going to jump from 3 to 7 just because nobody can pronounce his name (and especially now that we can).
Several things:
1.) I'm no longer in random.
2.) So you think three votes is a good number to pile on someone for nothing? What do you hope to accomplish by this?
3.) If you can pronounce his name now, and that was the reason for your vote, why is you vote still there?
This is a valid argument.
As I made clear there was no reason to unvote because at the time we were still in random and to me at least it made no difference if he had 3 votes or none.
I hope you're joking on this last one.
However due to the validity of your point that we seem to no longer be in random I shall unvote.
Care to explain?
What I meant was that it was a random vote and I hope you didn't take me seriously on the name pronunciation thing. Hope that clears things up.
it was from another mafia game
unvote, vote The Waffle King
He bandwagoned on edgy in the random voting phase, seems a bit suspicious.
FOS kpaca
Your case against skander makes it seem like you're trying to make a valid argument for an invalid reason. Seems scummy. Just because Skander left his vote on edgy, doesn't mean hes scum.
Yep, and I'm the reason for said shoe eating
'Edgy' as in the adjective for 'edge' (which has a soft 'g', or 'dj')? No. As far as I remember, 'gear' has a strong 'g' (as in 'game').
My real name is Edgar, so that's where it comes from.
I'm almost finished with Lost's second season! Yay!
I like 4/4s for 7.
I'm assuming this is sarcasm, and if it is I don't understand why you said it, as it appears to defend me in the same post you FOS me??
Huh? Clearly you are being selective/not reading the thread, or you will have noticed that others did not participate in the inane "random vote phase". By your logic, you have thus wrapped up most of the scum. This play is very aggressive (as it is an overly-sensitive-towards-one-player reaction based on something that happened during the joke phase of the game), and I don't like it.
Again... a very aggressive play based on joke phase material. You may be out of the joke phase, but you don't have the ability to decide when everyone is out of that phase unilaterally.
Trigger happy, much?
Unilateral decisions of the game state, overly sensitive and aggressive play... maybe it is you who are scum and trying to push us around?
The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
Also I don't see how I've been sensitive, but I do plan on playing aggressively and displaying my thoughts openely, as is my style. Further more it appears as though you are saying that nothing can be determined from the random voting phase, not only is this bad logic (cause when would we determine anything?), but if you truly believe this I think you should read Refridgerator Mafia.
Well, that's great and all, but you didn't tell anyone you'd changed, and used the fact that you had, secretly, all of a sudden become serious. It would be like me putting you in jail, and then telling you a day later, "oh by the way, that thing you did two weeks ago? I just decided that was against the law."
And this is the Lordpenguin post I assume you are referring to:
I am not sure that means what you think it means.
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I am noting here that you only stated you were out of that phase after you posted your rant.
Also, saying you don't want to participate in a certain, special way in the joke part of the game makes you scum? Is that what you're saying? Because if so, oh noes! I am sure to be labeled as scum in every game I play then!
I am indeed saying that very little can be ascertained from that phase. How do you determine exactly what is valuable? Unless someone is a terrible player, how do you determine if what they say is a joke, or actually serious? The signal to noise is so bad, it would seem that placing real weight on anything said there is a bit presumptuous. It might be useful on day two or three in hindsight, but if that's all you've got to go on, meh.
The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
Also when are we supposed to draw our conclusions since it seems as though you think we need to be playing this game in set phases and we all have to be at the same spot.
I suppose I need help, then, getting the "full serious" from a post that opens with a statement that the most recent votecount didn't include your shoe.
Please point out where I said it was "impossible" to determine scummy behaviour in the joke phase.
The explosion that... destroyed our city, razed our home, and turned our fields into wasteland was nothing compared to what was now happening to those who survived.
That is my interpretation of this.