Hadn't noticed this on the forums just yet, so I thought I'd share a little bit of interesting info I learned from my Tournament Organizer information.
Looks like the promo card for the pre-release tournament is going to be Malfegor. Sadly, it doesn't have anything more than the name. I wish it had more.....Just speculation, but seeing as Shards had a Planeswalker as a promo card, maybe Malfegor is another planeswalker?
Also, there will be side events available to Core and Advanced Level TOs. However, these events will be purchased and run seperately from the main event. What's really awesome is that the formats can be Draft, Sealed, 2HG, or even 3 person team.
Another interesting tidbit is that stores that run a pre-release and order the Agents of Artifice book will receive Alternate Art Mythic Rare. Quote:
"This exclusive, mythic rare alternate art promo card is playable and showcases the cover art from the Agents of Artifice novel."
The picture that they show is a close-up of Jace. See attached. However, it does state that this art is NOT FINAL. It may change.
Well, enjoy and discuss.
EDIT: Just for those of you interested in the drafting, the recommended drafting format is ALA-CON-CON. Just to clarify some more.
Normally, prerelease drafts are triple of whatever set that is being released.
But if they're recommending the drafts be SHA CON CON could suggest something about the set. Maybe the commons aren't strong enough to stand on its own?
Normally, prerelease drafts are triple of whatever set that is being released.
But if they're recommending the drafts be SHA CON CON could suggest something about the set. Maybe the commons aren't strong enough to stand on its own?
Or they get ridiculous in multiples like Cold Snap...
Or they get ridiculous in multiples like Cold Snap...
Eventide is ridiculous too. Nothing like HybridAuraOnMimic.dec.
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The Alt Art Mythic has GOT to be Child of Alara, it's "playable" by thier standards, due to the fact it's tourny legal, but may in fact not be playable due to a possible heavily restrictive mana cost.
But Flavorally JAce would fit as a child of Alara. Even though the comics clearly said he was on another world, he's part of the Agents of Artifice Book which mentions Tezzy. whom we know is an Esperite native. it would fit generally that JAce could be from alara, much like Ajani, however totally different. before his spark ignited. ect.. maybe he could show up as a walker (or Legend) in Alara Reborn (probably a walker, maybe along side of this new Nissa Ravaen chick (Jund much?) it could throw the number off by giving us 7 walkers for the alara block, two of which kill eachother when they come into play (Ajani Goldmane, and Vengeant) And Jace Beleren (and Jace ?) Or it could totally throw us for a loop and Child of Alara could be something Completely crazy. no idea, untill we get Confirmation
However i Do know, next time i'm able to go down to my local card shop. I'm going to Ask the Owner specifically about the Alt Art promo, and i'll buy the damn thing if i must. maybe ask him to order the book for me so WotC gives him a copy of the card
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Malfegor is not a planeswalker, it would be another Grixis legendary creature (Demon Dragon). The Grixian planeswalker, at least in terms of color and flavor, would be Nicol Bolas.
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The Alt Art Mythic has GOT to be Child of Alara, it's "playable" by thier standards, due to the fact it's tourny legal, but may in fact not be playable due to a possible heavily restrictive mana cost.
Pardon, mister? Why the mythic rare "has GOT to be" a card you know nothing about except the name? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
The art is clearly a depiction of Jace. Therefore, I assume that the mythic alternate art promo would me most probably yet another version of Jace Beleren. Remember, this promo would be PROBABLY related to the book, much like the cards from the old HarperPrism novels, not to the Conflux set. Remember, they are trying to largely disconnect the planeswalker novels and the actual sets.
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Think about it Car. It's Legally playable, which means it's either printed already or going to be printed as of the prerelease (which will make it legal as of the actual release date)
We already have Two copies of Jace, both Lorwyn Then the JVC. spamming the market with Jace Copies is just silly buisiness practices, however making something that the people want, with alternate art is a good buisiness venture.
It will stir up people to pester thier shops to order the book as well as host the PR. so it's probably Not another copy of Jace Beleren, if anything regarding the book + Conflux it will be some Sort of card From conflux (pressuring the store owners to order teh book plus host the event. Or it will be an alternate Art of Tezzeret, Which i higly doubt. since he has something to do with the novel, but nothing to do with Conflux as the Set.
Either way, i'm going to ask my storeowner to order me a copy of the book, and i WILL be participating in the Confllux release event, hopefully i can turn on my charisma and have the owner give meh the card, Maybe flashing a twenty will help, Even if it's Bribery >.< (which is a wonderful card, i just need to get the Islands and the 3 extra mana to play it on him) Sry. Bad joke.. i know.. shush
However, i'm curious to find out if it will be given out as an Extra incentive to the winners of Wizards hosted events.
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Think about it Car. It's Legally playable, which means it's either printed already or going to be printed as of the prerelease (which will make it legal as of the actual release date)
We already have Two copies of Jace, both Lorwyn Then the JVC. spamming the market with Jace Copies is just silly buisiness practices, however making something that the people want, with alternate art is a good buisiness venture.
Yeah, Rav, I thought about it. And I admit that yet another Jace promo would not be what I would want to see.
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It will stir up people to pester thier shops to order the book as well as host the PR. so it's probably Not another copy of Jace Beleren, if anything regarding the book + Conflux it will be some Sort of card From conflux (pressuring the store owners to order teh book plus host the event. Or it will be an alternate Art of Tezzeret, Which i higly doubt. since he has something to do with the novel, but nothing to do with Conflux as the Set.
Since Tezzeret is depicted at the Fat Pack mural fighting Bolas, I am not sure whether he has nothing to do with the set. But I agree that this is not an art of Tezzeret, but clearly of Jace.
It can very well be an art of a non-creature, non-PW spell. There is no mythic rare instant of sorcery....but from the names list, there is e.g. a card named Conflux. That sounds like mythic rare, and can very well represent a conflux of the Shards as well as any general convergence of energies, being tied to both the set, and by art, to the book. So that would be a possibility as well.
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Yeah but to say it has GOT to be Child Of Alara is silly, esp when it could be a common 1/1 with no ability for all we know. Thanks for the info, it's nice to see they aren't going to do the whole Base/Base/Exp drafts like they did early this year. Interest in drafting at that pre-re was cut below half over here.
Normally, prerelease drafts are triple of whatever set that is being released.
But if they're recommending the drafts be SHA CON CON could suggest something about the set. Maybe the commons aren't strong enough to stand on its own?
Drafting triple of a small set is usually terrible because everyone gets heavy multiples of cards. For example, when Morningtide came out I did a triple Morningtide draft, because we foolishly thought it would be fun. Some of the highlights of my deck included:
2x Bramblewood Paragon
2x Wolf-Skull Shaman
6x Elvish Warrior
3x That 4/4 trample changling
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Normally, prerelease drafts are triple of whatever set that is being released.
But if they're recommending the drafts be SHA CON CON could suggest something about the set. Maybe the commons aren't strong enough to stand on its own?
Maybe where you're from they are. By us, with a PTO and prereleases with hundreds of people, we've always done (assume block ABC).
I'm just glad drafts are back at pre-releases at all. Anyways, any ideas what this promo card actually is? My mouth is watering for some spoilers already
Flavor-wise, it would make the most sense for the book promo card to be either Jace or Tezzeret, even if it would be our 3rd version of Jace. They're the main characters in the book, right? It'd make a better tie-in for Wizards to give away one of their cards instead of some random CON or ALA card.
You guys might want to reread the first post.
As previously stated on another thread, the Prerelease card is the Mythic rare Malfegor.
Stores will also receive a Mythic rare with alternate art of Jace or Tezzeret...whomever is shown on the agents of Artifice cover...but this is not the prerelease card, just a cool promo extra.
The thing about side events is nothing new, it is just WoTC trying to act like they are awesome for giving back what they took away for the ALA prerelease.
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Another interesting tidbit is that stores that run a pre-release and order the Agents of Artifice book will receive Alternate Art Mythic Rare. Quote:
"This exclusive, mythic rare alternate art promo card is playable and showcases the cover art from the Agents of Artifice novel."
So for some final clarification, this isn't just 1 per store is it? I'd love to have my local store order the book for me just for this rare, but I know they usually do not carry the books.
For AlphaSquirrel: It looks like it's going to be one per book ordered per store THAT RUNS A PRE-RELEASE. If there's not a pre-release scheduled, it's no dice.
Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of new information available in the flier. I'm sure more information will be available the closer we get.
However, I received the Launch party flier for Conflux, and got a few more bits of information.
The release card will be Obelisk of Alara. Speculation: This means it's actually a rare, as Wizards has stated they won't print uncommons for releases anymore.
Also, there will be mini-posters to give away like the art prints. At least I'm assuming that's what they will be for. There's several of them.
Drafting triple of a small set is usually terrible because everyone gets heavy multiples of cards. For example, when Morningtide came out I did a triple Morningtide draft, because we foolishly thought it would be fun. Some of the highlights of my deck included:
2x Bramblewood Paragon
2x Wolf-Skull Shaman
6x Elvish Warrior
3x That 4/4 trample changling
Heh, that's nothing, I got 2 notorious throng, 4 sage of fables, 3 latchkey faerie, among other absolutely insane things. It's just sick when the opponent is at 20, you cast nothing except latchkey on turn 5, and you go double notorious throng on turn six ftw. And you're at two life.
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For AlphaSquirrel: It looks like it's going to be one per book ordered per store THAT RUNS A PRE-RELEASE. If there's not a pre-release scheduled, it's no dice.
Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of new information available in the flier. I'm sure more information will be available the closer we get.
However, I received the Launch party flier for Conflux, and got a few more bits of information.
The release card will be Obelisk of Alara. Speculation: This means it's actually a rare, as Wizards has stated they won't print uncommons for releases anymore.
Also, there will be mini-posters to give away like the art prints. At least I'm assuming that's what they will be for. There's several of them.
The prerelease and release cards sound nuts as of now. I can remember not being excited about Overbeing of Myth at all...now I've been back to back excited (always saw the value in Ajani Vengeant). It's pretty cool that the release card is probably going to be some sort of mana fixer...those always seem to run at a decent price if they are good. Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a playset of the obelisk if it's good.
I've got confirmation that the Conflux launch party card is going to be the "Obelisk of Alara"
Other information that seems to matter is that the sealed events for the launch party are 3 packs con and 3 packs Alara. So...yeah, those tournament packs are pretty much dead now. So dead they're not even using them for the rest of the set?
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The card art could be for a mythic milling spell. Like just a strait up 20 cards Library to graveyard, bam. That just has jace on the front of it. Or a cantrip milling spell. Or something completely stupid like: Draw two cards, your opponent draws 1 and puts the top 20 cards of his library into his graveyard. For six mana.
Very unlikely but anyways, the art does look like Jace but I highly doubt that the card is another jace.
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Looks like the promo card for the pre-release tournament is going to be Malfegor. Sadly, it doesn't have anything more than the name. I wish it had more.....Just speculation, but seeing as Shards had a Planeswalker as a promo card, maybe Malfegor is another planeswalker?
Also, there will be side events available to Core and Advanced Level TOs. However, these events will be purchased and run seperately from the main event. What's really awesome is that the formats can be Draft, Sealed, 2HG, or even 3 person team.
Another interesting tidbit is that stores that run a pre-release and order the Agents of Artifice book will receive Alternate Art Mythic Rare. Quote:
"This exclusive, mythic rare alternate art promo card is playable and showcases the cover art from the Agents of Artifice novel."
The picture that they show is a close-up of Jace. See attached. However, it does state that this art is NOT FINAL. It may change.
Well, enjoy and discuss.
EDIT: Just for those of you interested in the drafting, the recommended drafting format is ALA-CON-CON. Just to clarify some more.
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But if they're recommending the drafts be SHA CON CON could suggest something about the set. Maybe the commons aren't strong enough to stand on its own?
Or they get ridiculous in multiples like Cold Snap...
Or you need the mana-fixing available in Shards
Eventide is ridiculous too. Nothing like HybridAuraOnMimic.dec.
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Or Eventide... at our drafts there were no feasible deck archetypes besides "Grab as many mimics and the matching auras as humanly possible."
But Flavorally JAce would fit as a child of Alara. Even though the comics clearly said he was on another world, he's part of the Agents of Artifice Book which mentions Tezzy. whom we know is an Esperite native. it would fit generally that JAce could be from alara, much like Ajani, however totally different. before his spark ignited. ect.. maybe he could show up as a walker (or Legend) in Alara Reborn (probably a walker, maybe along side of this new Nissa Ravaen chick (Jund much?) it could throw the number off by giving us 7 walkers for the alara block, two of which kill eachother when they come into play (Ajani Goldmane, and Vengeant) And Jace Beleren (and Jace ?) Or it could totally throw us for a loop and Child of Alara could be something Completely crazy. no idea, untill we get Confirmation
However i Do know, next time i'm able to go down to my local card shop. I'm going to Ask the Owner specifically about the Alt Art promo, and i'll buy the damn thing if i must. maybe ask him to order the book for me so WotC gives him a copy of the card
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Malfegor is not a planeswalker, it would be another Grixis legendary creature (Demon Dragon). The Grixian planeswalker, at least in terms of color and flavor, would be Nicol Bolas.
Pardon, mister? Why the mythic rare "has GOT to be" a card you know nothing about except the name? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
The art is clearly a depiction of Jace. Therefore, I assume that the mythic alternate art promo would me most probably yet another version of Jace Beleren. Remember, this promo would be PROBABLY related to the book, much like the cards from the old HarperPrism novels, not to the Conflux set. Remember, they are trying to largely disconnect the planeswalker novels and the actual sets.
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We already have Two copies of Jace, both Lorwyn Then the JVC. spamming the market with Jace Copies is just silly buisiness practices, however making something that the people want, with alternate art is a good buisiness venture.
It will stir up people to pester thier shops to order the book as well as host the PR. so it's probably Not another copy of Jace Beleren, if anything regarding the book + Conflux it will be some Sort of card From conflux (pressuring the store owners to order teh book plus host the event. Or it will be an alternate Art of Tezzeret, Which i higly doubt. since he has something to do with the novel, but nothing to do with Conflux as the Set.
Either way, i'm going to ask my storeowner to order me a copy of the book, and i WILL be participating in the Confllux release event, hopefully i can turn on my charisma and have the owner give meh the card, Maybe flashing a twenty will help, Even if it's Bribery >.< (which is a wonderful card, i just need to get the Islands and the 3 extra mana to play it on him) Sry. Bad joke.. i know.. shush
However, i'm curious to find out if it will be given out as an Extra incentive to the winners of Wizards hosted events.
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Yeah, Rav, I thought about it. And I admit that yet another Jace promo would not be what I would want to see.
Since Tezzeret is depicted at the Fat Pack mural fighting Bolas, I am not sure whether he has nothing to do with the set. But I agree that this is not an art of Tezzeret, but clearly of Jace.
It can very well be an art of a non-creature, non-PW spell. There is no mythic rare instant of sorcery....but from the names list, there is e.g. a card named Conflux. That sounds like mythic rare, and can very well represent a conflux of the Shards as well as any general convergence of energies, being tied to both the set, and by art, to the book. So that would be a possibility as well.
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Drafting triple of a small set is usually terrible because everyone gets heavy multiples of cards. For example, when Morningtide came out I did a triple Morningtide draft, because we foolishly thought it would be fun. Some of the highlights of my deck included:
2x Bramblewood Paragon
2x Wolf-Skull Shaman
6x Elvish Warrior
3x That 4/4 trample changling
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Maybe where you're from they are. By us, with a PTO and prereleases with hundreds of people, we've always done (assume block ABC).
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As previously stated on another thread, the Prerelease card is the Mythic rare Malfegor.
Stores will also receive a Mythic rare with alternate art of Jace or Tezzeret...whomever is shown on the agents of Artifice cover...but this is not the prerelease card, just a cool promo extra.
The thing about side events is nothing new, it is just WoTC trying to act like they are awesome for giving back what they took away for the ALA prerelease.
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So for some final clarification, this isn't just 1 per store is it? I'd love to have my local store order the book for me just for this rare, but I know they usually do not carry the books.
Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of new information available in the flier. I'm sure more information will be available the closer we get.
However, I received the Launch party flier for Conflux, and got a few more bits of information.
The release card will be Obelisk of Alara. Speculation: This means it's actually a rare, as Wizards has stated they won't print uncommons for releases anymore.
Also, there will be mini-posters to give away like the art prints. At least I'm assuming that's what they will be for. There's several of them.
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Heh, that's nothing, I got 2 notorious throng, 4 sage of fables, 3 latchkey faerie, among other absolutely insane things. It's just sick when the opponent is at 20, you cast nothing except latchkey on turn 5, and you go double notorious throng on turn six ftw. And you're at two life.
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The prerelease and release cards sound nuts as of now. I can remember not being excited about Overbeing of Myth at all...now I've been back to back excited (always saw the value in Ajani Vengeant). It's pretty cool that the release card is probably going to be some sort of mana fixer...those always seem to run at a decent price if they are good. Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a playset of the obelisk if it's good.
Other information that seems to matter is that the sealed events for the launch party are 3 packs con and 3 packs Alara. So...yeah, those tournament packs are pretty much dead now. So dead they're not even using them for the rest of the set?
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Very unlikely but anyways, the art does look like Jace but I highly doubt that the card is another jace.