[CON] Worldheart Phoenix

[hypercast]

the first line of info was already posted a few pages ago, but might as well, for the sake of better explanations:

PHOENIX = 3

the name (worldheart phoenix), the creature type (phoenix), the self-referencing resurrection ability (return worldheart phoenix from your graveyard into play with--spoiler coming soon!)

oh, and a very ZESTFUL person just tipped me that the phoenix gets a cool domain ability

just to help out the number crunchers out there, you can already -1 the following keywords:

flying (obvious)

graveyard (obvious)

return (obvious)

two (huh?)

+1/+1 (double huh?)

cheers, number crunchers

EDIT: Finalized card:

Worldheart Phoenix
Creature - Phoenix (R)
Flying
You may play Worldheart Phoenix from your graveyard by paying rather than paying it's mana cost. If you do, it comes into play with two +1/+1 counters on it.
2/2

[Caranthir]

Originally Posted by Seth Dracovitch

Then there are clearly 3 seperate Nacatl named cards which takes up 3 of 4 "Cat" cards.

Nacatl Hunt-Pride
Nacatl Outlander
Nscatl Savage (missed it on the name list)

The last Cat is the Wild Leotau.

Originally Posted by hypercast

oh, and a very ZESTFUL person just tipped me that the phoenix gets a cool domain ability

Okay, so something like this?

Worldheart Phoenix <cc unknown, I assume Jund colors>
Creature-Phoenix (Rare)
Flying
:Return Worldheart Phoenix from your graveyard into play with two +1/+1 counters on it.
<P/T unknown>

[Mythrandir]

Originally Posted by hypercast

oh, and a very ZESTFUL person just tipped me that the phoenix gets a cool domain ability

i'm still a bit confused as to the domain ability... i´ve been seeing domain as: but shouldnt it be based on land type? or are ppl starting to refer as domain as having 5 of each?

[Fodder]

Zesty did refer to as domain in the Dragonsoul thread - but it still hasn't been determined whether he meant basic lands or just all five colours. The keyword Domain does refer to the number of basic lands you control, but whether it's being used coloquially to refer to more than just basic land effects... who knows? Zesty, probably, but he's currently lost somewhere in the AEther.

[Mythrandir]

Originally Posted by ArcanePie

"Domain colors" was probably referring to all 5 colors. In Con draft my group jokingly referred to getting all 3 of your colors for your shard "Shard domain" I feel this kind of nickname for getting all of a certain set of colors is more than acceptable.

i know its acceptable and i get domain being = WUBRG, but the fact that domain is a keyword/ability (whatever) in this set is confusing..

[Dapero]

Originally Posted by Caranthir

The last Cat is the Wild Leotau.



Okay, so something like this?

Worldheart Phoenix <cc unknown, I assume Jund colors>
Creature-Phoenix (Rare)
Flying
:Return Worldheart Phoenix from your graveyard into play with two +1/+1 counters on it.
<P/T unknown>

If you add basic landcycling (2) to the phoenix, it woul be awesome

[V_Raziel]

Originally Posted by Caranthir

The last Cat is the Wild Leotau.



Okay, so something like this?

Worldheart Phoenix <cc unknown, I assume Jund colors>
Creature-Phoenix (Rare)
Flying
:Return Worldheart Phoenix from your graveyard into play with two +1/+1 counters on it.
<P/T unknown>

No jund CC (BRG) just red.

Its rare number 77 accordingly to Zesty information on "Number Crunch".

Don't you mods think these posts should go to other topic?

Like [Con] Worldheart Phoenix ?? Or speculation?

Just my humble opinion

[Caranthir]

Cut out from the Orb thread into a new one.

Zesty, your input would be welcome

[BurntChomsky]

Like was being discussed in the speculation thread already, its very possible this card is inspired by Eternal Dragon. Probably has basic landcycling for 1R, maybe a CC of 5 or 6, and mediocre stats (3/3?), until you start returning it to play with counters on it.

Ok, so my guess is:
Worldheart Phoenix
Creature - Phoenix
Flying
Return Worldheart Phoenix from your graveyard to play with 2 +1/+1 counters on it. Play this ability only during your upkeep.
Basic Landcycling
3/3

[mrrebel]

it would be cool id the domain ability was something like:

Worldheart Phoenix
Flying
Domain- at the beginning of your upkeep if you control a land of each basic land typ return ~ from your graveyard to play with a +1/+1 counter on it.
3/3


obviously totally random guesses on P/T and CC

[nal2]

My guess

Worldheart Phoenix
Creature - Phoenix (R)
Flying
: Return Worldheart Phoenix from your graveyard to play with 2 +1/+1 counters on it for each basic land type among lands you control. Play this ability only during your upkeep.
4/4

[Mythrandir]

Originally Posted by BurntChomsky

Like was being discussed in the speculation thread already, its very possible this card is inspired by Eternal Dragon. Probably has basic landcycling for 1R, maybe a CC of 5 or 6, and mediocre stats (3/3?), until you start returning it to play with counters on it.

yeap, i agree phoenix(es) dont have a big P/T. and tehy cost 5-6.

but wished it wasnt basic landcycling... it would be great if u could search for a dual with this , but i think i wont be that lucky. its probably something like:

worlheard phoenix 4RR
Flying
2: basic landcycling
WUBRG: return ~this~ from your grave to play with 2 +1/+1 on it
2/3

[Gyuzen64]

Please don't be another WURBG creature. Please.

Rainbow deck are inerenthly stupid.

[Mr. Gnomeitall]

Originally Posted by Mythrandir

but wished it wasnt basic landcycling... it would be great if u could search for a dual with this , but i think i wont be that lucky. its probably something like:

worlheard phoenix 4RR
Flying
2: basic landcycling
WUBRG: return ~this~ from your grave to play with 2 +1/+1 on it
2/3

Well, the word Lancycling only appears in the orb 5 times, and we already have all 5 accounted for, so the Phoenix doesn't have landcycling.

[Dark_drac0]

how about do something interesting,
Unearth: WUBRG
if worldheart phoenix is removed from the game, return it to your hand at the begining of your upkeep