Welcome to Byteland, home of the greatest 8-bit videogame stars! You've all been a part of some of the greatest gaming classics known to mankind, but you've long been obsoleted by the rapid developments in gaming technology. Sadly, each of you has had to move on with your life and deal with the real world.
In a corner of Byteland known as the Zora Coast, Pac-Man opened up his own vacation spot, the 8-Bit Resort. It's been an amazing hit, becoming one of the most popular resorts throughout the land. There's lots of sun, perfect beaches, watersports, hang gliding, hard-hitting cocktails, gorgeous women in 8-bit bikinis (yeah, Byteland is just as sexist as the 3-D world) - basically, everything you could ask for. Pac-Man even made the cover of TIME as Person of the Year in recognition of his success. But as is always the case, things had to come to an end.
One summer weekend, disaster struck the 8-Bit Resort. It had already been a tough week for Pac-Man, what with the overflow of customers, striking up new business contracts, handling VIPs, etc. There was even a widespread system glitch in Byteland causing some people to act in very unusual ways... But sometime around 4:15 AM early Saturday morning, after the late-night partygoers had all gone off to bed, Pac-Man was paid a visit by a group of Mafia thugs. As was later discovered, Pac-Man (or "Pac Daddy" as he often liked to be called) had caused some trouble for some local shops, whose owners had deep ties to the 8-Bit Mafia, and the Mafia had finally decided that they couldn't allow the continued prosperity of Pac-Man's resort.
In the ensuing chaos, several areas of the resort were laid to waste, a few casualties were incurred, and hundreds of people fled in panic. Not everyone was able to successfully escape, and in the end, Pac-Man was dead (fortunately, Ms. Pac-Man and the rest of the Pac family had been away for the weekend). However, Pac-Man was somehow able to finally trigger his custom security system which, in typical videogame fashion, sealed off the premises to prevent further escape, at least until either the good guys or the bad guys were victorious. The security system was also slightly damaged by the Byteland glitch, causing everyone inside the resort to look like mangled versions of Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde.
So here's where the adventure begins: 22 of you have been trapped within the premises of the 8-Bit Resort. Evil lurks among you, though you no longer can really tell who is who. You all decide that the best way to settle the matter is through the tried-and-true practice of wits, deception, and lynches...
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4. musashi - Ridley(Metroid) - MAFIA
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1. carrion pigeons - Pit(Kid Icarus) - TOWN - annihilated, Day 11
6. Fayul - Red Marble(Marble Madness) - TOWN - incinerated, Night 10
22. Enigma91 - Link(Legend of Zelda) - TOWN - eaten by piranha plants, Day 10
15. Jobie - A Boy and His Blob(A Boy and His Blob) - TOWN - charred, Night 9
20. Pibbly Xyre - Paperboy(Paperboy) - WANNABE MAFIA - crushed in the Battle Chess room, Day 8
8. Ankh-Morporkian Rhinocero - Bob(Bubble Bobble) - TOWN - consumed in deadly flames, Night 7
14. Crippled_Fist - King Hippo(Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!) - MAFIA - infected with Viruses, Day 7
3. swinkee - Karnov(Karnov) - MAFIA - dropped into lava, Day 6
18. !Chucklez! - Ryu Hayabusa(Ninja Gaiden) - TOWN - burnt to a crisp, Night 5
17. dazbog_eaterofsouls Blinking Spirit - Simon Belmont(Castlevania) - TOWN - throat slit, Night 5
9. Kenji - Megaman(Megaman) - SK - obliterated by spikes, Day 5
16. draygn_mage - White Mage(Final Fantasy) - TOWN - beaten down by dodgeballs, Day 4
7. epeeguy - Big Boss(Metal Gear) - MAFIA - burnt to a crisp, Night 3
13. LJustus - Mr. Stevenson(Gumshoe) - TOWN - horribly burnt to death, Night 3
10. Puzzle - Black Spy(Spy Vs. Spy) - TOWN - repeatedly run over on the Excitebike track, Day 3
21. Einsteinmonkey - Bub(Bubble Bobble) - TOWN - horribly burnt to death, Night 2
2. magicianofthought - commando(Contra) - TOWN - executed Duck Hunt-style, Day 2
19. Tyros - Chef Peter Pepper(Burgertime) - TOWN - throat slit, Night 1
12. Axelrod - knight(Joust) - TOWN - burnt to a crisp, Night 1
11. HAWKEYE7 - Bomberman(Bomberman) - MAFIA - pierced by a lance then burnt to a crisp, Night 1
5. SorryGuy - Dana(Solomon's Key) - TOWN - barreled to death, Day 1
Winners: MAFIA (musashi, Crippled_Fist, swinkee, epeeguy, HAWKEYE7) Losers: SK (Kenji), Wannabe MAFIA (Xyre), TOWN (the rest)
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This game begins with Night 0, the night that Pac-Man was killed. Because no one is yet aware of the Mafia presence, no night abilities are allowed unless I specifically PM you. Those who have roles involving night-time communication are allowed to communicate. For the rest of you, just sit back and wait for Day 1. This is also a good time to talk to me if you need anything clarified about your role.
Okay, I'm going to go ahead and start this game today, since I'll be out for the weekend on a trip to Vegas, and I'd prefer not to wait until next week to start.
It is now Day 1. In the aftermath of the chaos of last night's events, you discover Pac-Man's dead body and your own confinement within the resort's security system. Now it's time to start settling the matter...
Glad to see we've gotten started. I was beginning to wonder when that would happen, and was getting just a bit impatient. Anyhow, less comments on the game, and actually being in the game... Though, it is good to be in another game (especially starting off on Day 1!).
Quaint. Before we start to get too deep into the game (and get too many votes going *glare*), it'd be nice to float at least a couple of theories to see how the setup was made and maybe see if we can't root out the mafia. Even though I'm one of the first posters, I guess I'll start by speculating that there only characters from one game system. Really, only the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) was the big 8-bit game system of the time. Though, I guess there was also the Atari, which was an 8-bit game system as well (and Pac-Man was certainly available on that).
I only say that as it seems to me it'd be really obscure to pull character names from more than the titles of NES games. I don't want to organize any kind of claim yet, but I'd like to weigh the merits of that as a possible approach. I guess the obvious problem is if there are characters from games on the Atari that this makes this a moot point; but I don't know too many characters from Atari games. All of them seem like they'd be from the NES (characters like Link, Mario, Yoshi, etc.). At least from what research I did on 8-bit games.
I don't know much about Atari either. But NES games seem like they would be the classics: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy even, perhaps? Maybe Kirby and Megaman... off the top of my head, these are some of the NES oldies.
I'd first, like to note this is my first ever Mafia. Second, I've looked at past Mafia's and I'm going to assume that the townies usually have 3 times the number of peeps as the Mafia. Now since this game was originally a 20 person mafia that would make it a 15/5 split with no SK...but we've added 2 more So could that be an SK and another Townie?
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I think its pretty safe to confine ourselves to NES. off the top of my head I can remember playing Kirby, Zelda, Final Fantasy, Mario, Metroid, MegaMan, Bigfoot, Spy Hunter, etc... I can even remember the old cartoon Captain N and the Game Masters. This is gonna be great!
Same here. Although, the game I'm from wasn't only on the NES. Then again, in those days, a lot of games were on a lot of systems unless it was put out by Nintendo specifically.
Guys, I don't think it is wise to claim/divide ourselves for the mafia to pick off - especially at this early stage of the game. LotR mafia was a perfect example of how relying on claims and patterns in the game lead to a mafia win when the game mod wants to make the game fair. In that game, we made 3 successful lynches based on game play and lost due to reliance on claims and patterns (in addition to some other factors). Let's win this one.
Well, it seems that my game is origenally from Atari, but was ported into NES (along with game gear, game boy, Commodore 64 and some others) a few years after.
It seems that the games are not exclusivly NES but i wouldnt be surprised if every game was playable on the Nintendo. That means that doing some sort of claim based on the systems that it is availiable for will do almost nothing for the town.
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Personally I am most interested in this "Glitch". I have been wondering about it since I first read Fadeblue's post. My main concern is that perhaps this will lead to "mistakes" in night actions. Perhaps a parinoid/insane Cop, or a Clumbsy Doc? I certainly hope not, but until Fade gives us more info on it, it's something to keep in mind.
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Well I'm agreeing with LJustus for the simple fact that I know next to nothing about NES games/8 Bit games, and probably couldn't tell a false claim if it hit me in the face.
For some reason, I wasn't thinking that the "mafia" in this game were going to be obviously evil characters anyway. But I'll confes I have no real basis for believing that, except my lack of knowledge of what a bad role could be. Donkey Kong? Some well known villian in a Zelda game? I know nothing.
Still looking foreward to a good game (if I can manage to keep track of everything I'm playing in right now--I think it's five between here, News, and Mafiascum. I'm sick).
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Donkey Kong wasn't a villian on the NES (I don't think). I believe that was only in Arcades.
The Mafia: Ganon and Bowser are likely possibilities for the "leader". Other members: King Dedede? Queen Metroid? Mike Tyson from Punchout? (Maybe not the last one.)
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Who is Bowser? Not that this really makes any difference.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Donkey Kong wasn't a villian on the NES (I don't think). I believe that was only in Arcades.
No, Donkey Kong was a villian on NES. Donkey Kong (the game) was on NES.
I really don't think that we should be trying to figure out the game setup. Anyone who was in LOTR mafia should recognize that an unusual setup can ruin this sort of planning. Besides, who's to say that there aren't any characters from obscure games around. I know about the game my character is from, but only barely.
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Who is Bowser? Not that this really makes any difference.
Bowser is the villain of every Mario game except for Mario Land 1 and 2 on Game Boy.
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FOS: Axelrod, something smells fishy with you, I know you have no knowledge of 8-bit games (neither do I) yet your first idea for scum is a very likely one, this IMO leads me to believe that you may actually be a DK. Also, not knowing who Bowser is blasphemy in my book.
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Donkey Kong on the NES was indeed bad. Bowser is most likely in this game, and is bad. Ganon is most likely in this game, and is bad.
As LJustus already said, don't categorize yourself.
Sorry, I forgot to add: I'm almost certain that Ganon exists, because of the location, as I said earlier. Therefore speculation can be started on who does what?
Info about Ganon from Wikipedia: Ganon first appeared in the original The Legend of Zelda game for the Famicom in 1986; the following year, the game was brought over to the American NES. In that game, Ganon first appeared sort of like a monstrous blue pig. During Link's actual fight with him, however, he turns invisible and randomly warps around the room throwing fireballs at the hero. Only a sword can cause him damage, and after being struck by it enough times he will turn red (and visible) and stop warping. At that point, Link must use a Silver Arrow to finish him off once and for all. This technique for defeating him also works in the remake, BS Zelda.
Erm...I have no idea about this
Bowser: Well, he breathes fire?
Anybody have some kind of reasonable speculation? I'm blank.
Howdy all.
As I said before I am pretty ignorant on 8-bit games. I'm doing some searches to try to get up to speed.
I would imagine there are classic games like Zelda, Pac-man and others that will be represented in the game.
What do you more 8-bit knowledgable players think, is there a wide enough pool of characters that our speculation will not give the mafia an edge in picking false roles?
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Simpson's Mafia - best use of character
Mtgnews Mafia Mafia - Town Madman
Mythos Mafia: the Dunwich Massacre Town MVP
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Lost Mafia - Co SK Winner with Kops
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Howdy all.
As I said before I am pretty ignorant on 8-bit games. I'm doing some searches to try to get up to speed.
I would imagine there are classic games like Zelda, Pac-man and others that will be represented in the game.
What do you more 8-bit knowledgable players think, is there a wide enough pool of characters that our speculation will not give the mafia an edge in picking false roles?
Well, it really depends on how much obscurity fadeblue has put into the game. There is a pretty wide range of character possibilities, but as far as I can see, the amount Mafia roles are fairly limited. For example, it might be hard to put evil giant space aliens into the Mafia...
Well I'm agreeing with LJustus for the simple fact that I know next to nothing about NES games/8 Bit games, and probably couldn't tell a false claim if it hit me in the face.
This goes for me as well. I do not know 8-Bit but I am trying to get mafia expirience so I joined the game. I think I know enough though, I know who DK and Browser are so....Mario Party all the way!
Anyway it is early game and the only way to get thigns going is votes which lead to little comments which lead to hard votes so I am voting. I do not encourage people to do so, if I did I would be considered mafia but the only way to find mafia is to do the same. Do as you choose but votes can catch mafia. Just not alot on one person.
Anyway the person that seems most fishy to me so far is LJustus. He made the first vote something that someone always has to do however he did go after a good player. Why do you want to kill a good player to begin with? Also his second two posts seem like good mafia propiganda to get you to believe he is town. Vote: LJustus
Yeah, I'm learned enough too know who Bowser and Ganon are but beyond that...I do belive that Bowser and Ganon are strong possibilities...maybe DK...he was kinda evil in his NES days...I'm not quite ready to single out anyone that I am suspicious of quite yet...I thought that I should simply make a post before I am accused of lurking.
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Anyway the person that seems most fishy to me so far is LJustus. He made the first vote something that someone always has to do however he did go after a good player. Why do you want to kill a good player to begin with? Also his second two posts seem like good mafia propiganda to get you to believe he is town. Vote: LJustus
I have to say I think you're wrong. Ljustus made a good point and I think that the nature of this game's theme might lend itself to set up a similar situation. At least at this point in the game we should keep it in mind until we are reasonably sure that it's not turning out to be a similar situation.
As for his vote, he does not give any reasons but it is day one and random voting is common.
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The security system was also slightly damaged by the Byteland glitch, causing everyone inside the resort to look like mangled versions of Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde.
Does anyone know who Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde are?
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Mtgnews Mafia Mafia - Town Madman
Mythos Mafia: the Dunwich Massacre Town MVP
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Werewolf Mafia - Mafia MVP
Doctor Mafia - Mafia MVP
Mafia: Escape from the Cylons - Town MVP
Lost Mafia - Co SK Winner with Kops
Random Mafia 3 - Town MVP
For some reason, I wasn't thinking that the "mafia" in this game were going to be obviously evil characters anyway. But I'll confes I have no real basis for believing that, except my lack of knowledge of what a bad role could be. Donkey Kong? Some well known villian in a Zelda game? I know nothing.
Well, it's possible that Fade set the game up that way; I mean, certainly there are plenty of iconic characters from the old NES games that could conceivably be present at some kind of resort to which they retired. A character like Link would definitely be iconic and could be present. Same with Mario. Conversely, the same may be true for some of the baddies as well. I don't think you get more iconic a bad guy than Donkey Kong himself (if anything, he may be one of the orginal bad guys, next to the ghosts that we've apparently all become).
But yeah, I kind of have to agree with swinkee on this. If we rely too heavily on expecting the "big names" to fall into, we may miss iconic "bad guys" who didn't have any real name. Heck, while the main bad guy in Metroid was Mother Brain, the game was named after the Metroid itself; which was just one of the thousands of monsters you fought in the game. So, it's very possible that the any bad guys may be very "generic" in name (same with the heroes). Heck, what if one of the bad guys is just the Centipede?
EWP: Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Clyde were the names of the ghosts from the original Pac Man. I guess it fits that we'd all be disguised as them, as Pac Man was our host.
I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of interesting/clever stuff in this game that I just won't appreciate.
Nothing much to say at this point. Amazing no one looks suspicious after 34 posts.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I wonder if my name sake is in here, Snake or Rattle, from the game Snake Rattle and Roll (that is where i got my name from, they eat Nibbly Pibblys). I think that would be hilarious. Maybe one of the mafia is the evil blue foot!! oh noes!!
Anyway, I unfortunately grew up just at the end of the NES era, so i know a bit of stuff about NES, but not everything. We shall see how this goes.
One thing that we shall have to figure out is how condensed the characters are. Do we have only the main games here like Mario, Link and Kirby, or do we have a wide spectrum of characters. I would not be surprised if Mario, Luigi and Princess were all in the game, but i also wouldnt be surprised if only Luigi was here. That should help us hopefully spot some bad claims.
@SG: I agree with HAWKEYE here, dont worry about the first 10 posts of the game, they usually mean absolutly nothing at all.
Anyway, unvote ljustus
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I guess I will get off it too. The Puzzle thing is the only part that bothers me but I mean....meh. Unvote:ljustus.
If saw I was not that convienced of it anyway. So what can we do to get the game moving. Claims are bad in this case. Is there anything general like a year or era claim for the game your in?
Well the all the Unvoteing going on i will do the same........ O wait i have never voted yet so...... VOTE: Sorry Guy then UNVOTE: Sorry Guy. Now i fell that i have said hi to everyone.
I think Axelrod is the most likely to be scum. For someone to make so many highly plausible suggestions about the mafia just after saying they had no idea about NES games is pretty suspicious to me.
Also, just out of curiosity, which of the handheld systems were 8-bit? I think the original Game Boy was 4-bit, no?
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
8-bit refers to the popular generation of video game consoles that arrived in the mid-1980s after the Great Video Game Crash. Led by the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) and Sega Master System, the "8-bit Era" lasted from approximately 1985 to the rise in popularity of 16-bit console systems the Sega Genesis, NEC TurboGrafx 16 and Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) in the early 1990s.
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Under Tramiel's ownership, Atari Corp. abandoned the game console market to concentrate on aggressively-priced home computers, releasing the 8-bit Atari XE series
NES, SMS and 8-bit Atari consoles were the 8-bit systems.
Pacman was Atari.
I am unfortunately curious - everybody is NES? If there are characters from other 8-bit consoles, it would make it easier for Mafia to hide. Therefore, DO NOT CLAIM YOUR SYSTEM.
Well the all the Unvoteing going on i will do the same........ O wait i have never voted yet so...... VOTE: Sorry Guy then UNVOTE: Sorry Guy. Now i fell that i have said hi to everyone.
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Let us remember that a mod is this game's host. Let us not spam. Hello you to you. Did the mark of the paladin show up on me Fade? If so I am so immune!
Anyway as for Axel being mafia I also got the impression that he is playing differently than normal too but in Money Mafia someone also made that comment recently. It could be he is trying to change his game play but I do not know.
Solo, is what everyone said in Money, they said he was playing like he was by himself too much and it made it look like a mafia tactic. I don't know its worth looking into though, if you know what I mean, mon. Also at this point I think the key is to make sure no one is lurking. Lynch all lurkers is it not? Destory the block of them so we have all active players is the theory. I think that is all w2e have to go on right now.
Let us remember that a mod is this game's host. Let us not spam. Hello you to you. Did the mark of the paladin show up on me Fade? If so I am so immune!
Anyway as for Axel being mafia I also got the impression that he is playing differently than normal too but in Money Mafia someone also made that comment recently. It could be he is trying to change his game play but I do not know.
Solo, is what everyone said in Money, they said he was playing like he was by himself too much and it made it look like a mafia tactic. I don't know its worth looking into though, if you know what I mean, mon. Also at this point I think the key is to make sure no one is lurking. Lynch all lurkers is it not? Destory the block of them so we have all active players is the theory. I think that is all w2e have to go on right now.
What, do you think you can steal my posting style?
There doesn't seem to be much to say right now.
Claiming might be able to pull out a mafia agent right now, but it would also leave the power roles exposed and out in the open. In a game this size 4-5 mafia would be standard, there are 80 some games for the nes. (not sure 100% on this one) if each game gave one claim, (and they don't, but there are many games with more then one safe claim), then our chances of getting mafia are too slim to be worth the risk.
That's what I've got to say, l8ater
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What, do you think you can steal my posting style?
There doesn't seem to be much to say right now.
Claiming might be able to pull out a mafia agent right now, but it would also leave the power roles exposed and out in the open. In a game this size 4-5 mafia would be standard, there are 80 some games for the nes. (not sure 100% on this one) if each game gave one claim, (and they don't, but there are many games with more then one safe claim), then our chances of getting mafia are too slim to be worth the risk.
That's what I've got to say, l8ater
More likely, there are about 5-6 evil in the game, because it's 22 people. Actually, there are hundreds of games. Since a fairly large handful of them are popular, there's a limited amount of places for a Mafia to hide. Of course, as I mentioned earlier, it all depends on how obscure the games fadeblue chose are. No doubt most of them are popular, though, so it should hopefully be reasonably easy to detect false claims.
More likely, there are about 5-6 evil in the game, because it's 22 people. Actually, there are hundreds of games. Since a fairly large handful of them are popular, there's a limited amount of places for a Mafia to hide. Of course, as I mentioned earlier, it all depends on how obscure the games fadeblue chose are. No doubt most of them are popular, though, so it should hopefully be reasonably easy to detect false claims.
But yeah, no claiming whatsoever right now.
Quoted for Truthery...I agreed with these #'s early on about 5-6 baddies, 7 Tops, leaving the townies with 15-17.
I'm also: unFOS: Axelrod. I feel I'm jumping the gun here a bit.
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Mass claiming is the pits, whether it's effective or not. That said, I highly doubt that it will be very effective in this game. The past several games have been lost by the town quite simply because they thought that claims would help them. I think it's been made quite clear by the better mods of these games that it is unreliable at best, and lethal at worst to trust, to metagaming as reliable enough to justify our lynches. If Frodo can be mafia, and if the mafia can have a list of all true roles, then I have no doubt that there's a system in place to screw us up if we try it here, too. Let's try to have a little more care and not let the mafia lead us around by the nose this game, eh?
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Mass claiming is the pits, whether it's effective or not. That said, I highly doubt that it will be very effective in this game. The past several games have been lost by the town quite simply because they thought that claims would help them. I think it's been made quite clear by the better mods of these games that it is unreliable at best, and lethal at worst to trust, to metagaming as reliable enough to justify our lynches. If Frodo can be mafia, and if the mafia can have a list of all true roles, then I have no doubt that there's a system in place to screw us up if we try it here, too. Let's try to have a little more care and not let the mafia lead us around by the nose this game, eh?
Sure. I don't know how you did it but you just made a pro-town claim in a pro-town way. Far out. Generally it looks like a mafia tactic. Anyway I am leaning towards a 6-14 set-up because it make sense for it to have been a 5-15 set-up before Fade did the tweakig. I figure he added one of each. I wouldn't rule out 5-17 but it doubtful at best. Seven would be too much for us. Possibly a four person set-up with an SK. This seems a game an SK would be in for some reason. I must dig deeper into 8-Bit I have a feeling to find who it might be. Also I think we can rule out a two groups because of the late tweaking.
Just wanted to post so people knew I wasn't going to lurk.
I am quite rusty with my 8-Bit knowlege, so I have been brushing up in anticipation of this game. Hopefully having as much information on the genre as possible will help later in the game.
/meContemplates buying a new NES on eBay
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"There is no royal road to science, and only those who do not dread the fatiguing climb
of its steep paths have a chance of gaining its luminous summits"
-Karl Heinrich Marx Cube
In a corner of Byteland known as the Zora Coast, Pac-Man opened up his own vacation spot, the 8-Bit Resort. It's been an amazing hit, becoming one of the most popular resorts throughout the land. There's lots of sun, perfect beaches, watersports, hang gliding, hard-hitting cocktails, gorgeous women in 8-bit bikinis (yeah, Byteland is just as sexist as the 3-D world) - basically, everything you could ask for. Pac-Man even made the cover of TIME as Person of the Year in recognition of his success. But as is always the case, things had to come to an end.
One summer weekend, disaster struck the 8-Bit Resort. It had already been a tough week for Pac-Man, what with the overflow of customers, striking up new business contracts, handling VIPs, etc. There was even a widespread system glitch in Byteland causing some people to act in very unusual ways... But sometime around 4:15 AM early Saturday morning, after the late-night partygoers had all gone off to bed, Pac-Man was paid a visit by a group of Mafia thugs. As was later discovered, Pac-Man (or "Pac Daddy" as he often liked to be called) had caused some trouble for some local shops, whose owners had deep ties to the 8-Bit Mafia, and the Mafia had finally decided that they couldn't allow the continued prosperity of Pac-Man's resort.
In the ensuing chaos, several areas of the resort were laid to waste, a few casualties were incurred, and hundreds of people fled in panic. Not everyone was able to successfully escape, and in the end, Pac-Man was dead (fortunately, Ms. Pac-Man and the rest of the Pac family had been away for the weekend). However, Pac-Man was somehow able to finally trigger his custom security system which, in typical videogame fashion, sealed off the premises to prevent further escape, at least until either the good guys or the bad guys were victorious. The security system was also slightly damaged by the Byteland glitch, causing everyone inside the resort to look like mangled versions of Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde.
So here's where the adventure begins: 22 of you have been trapped within the premises of the 8-Bit Resort. Evil lurks among you, though you no longer can really tell who is who. You all decide that the best way to settle the matter is through the tried-and-true practice of wits, deception, and lynches...
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4. musashi - Ridley (Metroid) - MAFIA
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1. carrion pigeons - Pit (Kid Icarus) - TOWN - annihilated, Day 11
6. Fayul - Red Marble (Marble Madness) - TOWN - incinerated, Night 10
22. Enigma91 - Link (Legend of Zelda) - TOWN - eaten by piranha plants, Day 10
15. Jobie - A Boy and His Blob (A Boy and His Blob) - TOWN - charred, Night 9
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PibblyXyre - Paperboy (Paperboy) - WANNABE MAFIA - crushed in the Battle Chess room, Day 88.
Ankh-MorporkianRhinocero - Bob (Bubble Bobble) - TOWN - consumed in deadly flames, Night 714. Crippled_Fist - King Hippo (Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!) - MAFIA - infected with Viruses, Day 7
3. swinkee - Karnov (Karnov) - MAFIA - dropped into lava, Day 6
18. !Chucklez! - Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) - TOWN - burnt to a crisp, Night 5
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dazbog_eaterofsoulsBlinking Spirit - Simon Belmont (Castlevania) - TOWN - throat slit, Night 59. Kenji - Megaman (Megaman) - SK - obliterated by spikes, Day 5
16. draygn_mage - White Mage (Final Fantasy) - TOWN - beaten down by dodgeballs, Day 4
7. epeeguy - Big Boss (Metal Gear) - MAFIA - burnt to a crisp, Night 3
13. LJustus - Mr. Stevenson (Gumshoe) - TOWN - horribly burnt to death, Night 3
10. Puzzle - Black Spy (Spy Vs. Spy) - TOWN - repeatedly run over on the Excitebike track, Day 3
21. Einsteinmonkey - Bub (Bubble Bobble) - TOWN - horribly burnt to death, Night 2
2. magicianofthought - commando (Contra) - TOWN - executed Duck Hunt-style, Day 2
19. Tyros - Chef Peter Pepper (Burgertime) - TOWN - throat slit, Night 1
12. Axelrod - knight (Joust) - TOWN - burnt to a crisp, Night 1
11. HAWKEYE7 - Bomberman (Bomberman) - MAFIA - pierced by a lance then burnt to a crisp, Night 1
5. SorryGuy - Dana (Solomon's Key) - TOWN - barreled to death, Day 1
Winners: MAFIA (musashi, Crippled_Fist, swinkee, epeeguy, HAWKEYE7)
Losers: SK (Kenji), Wannabe MAFIA (Xyre), TOWN (the rest)
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This game begins with Night 0, the night that Pac-Man was killed. Because no one is yet aware of the Mafia presence, no night abilities are allowed unless I specifically PM you. Those who have roles involving night-time communication are allowed to communicate. For the rest of you, just sit back and wait for Day 1. This is also a good time to talk to me if you need anything clarified about your role.
It is now Day 1. In the aftermath of the chaos of last night's events, you discover Pac-Man's dead body and your own confinement within the resort's security system. Now it's time to start settling the matter...
22 players alive, 12 votes to lynch.
obligatory vote Puzzle
That is all i have to add to this post. I am mearly typing so it looks like i have more to say but i really dont.
Quaint. Before we start to get too deep into the game (and get too many votes going *glare*), it'd be nice to float at least a couple of theories to see how the setup was made and maybe see if we can't root out the mafia. Even though I'm one of the first posters, I guess I'll start by speculating that there only characters from one game system. Really, only the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) was the big 8-bit game system of the time. Though, I guess there was also the Atari, which was an 8-bit game system as well (and Pac-Man was certainly available on that).
I only say that as it seems to me it'd be really obscure to pull character names from more than the titles of NES games. I don't want to organize any kind of claim yet, but I'd like to weigh the merits of that as a possible approach. I guess the obvious problem is if there are characters from games on the Atari that this makes this a moot point; but I don't know too many characters from Atari games. All of them seem like they'd be from the NES (characters like Link, Mario, Yoshi, etc.). At least from what research I did on 8-bit games.
Just a few thoughts to get the ball rolling.
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oh, and vote Fayul for holding us up.
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Any suggestions on how to proceed then?
It seems that the games are not exclusivly NES but i wouldnt be surprised if every game was playable on the Nintendo. That means that doing some sort of claim based on the systems that it is availiable for will do almost nothing for the town.
Zora Coast is from Zelda (Majora's Mask) it seems.
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Eh? I don't follow.
For some reason, I wasn't thinking that the "mafia" in this game were going to be obviously evil characters anyway. But I'll confes I have no real basis for believing that, except my lack of knowledge of what a bad role could be. Donkey Kong? Some well known villian in a Zelda game? I know nothing.
Still looking foreward to a good game (if I can manage to keep track of everything I'm playing in right now--I think it's five between here, News, and Mafiascum. I'm sick).
The Mafia: Ganon and Bowser are likely possibilities for the "leader". Other members: King Dedede? Queen Metroid? Mike Tyson from Punchout? (Maybe not the last one.)
Seriously though, I could believe Bowser.
I really don't think that we should be trying to figure out the game setup. Anyone who was in LOTR mafia should recognize that an unusual setup can ruin this sort of planning. Besides, who's to say that there aren't any characters from obscure games around. I know about the game my character is from, but only barely.
Bowser is the villain of every Mario game except for Mario Land 1 and 2 on Game Boy.
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As LJustus already said, don't categorize yourself.
Sorry, I forgot to add: I'm almost certain that Ganon exists, because of the location, as I said earlier. Therefore speculation can be started on who does what?
Info about Ganon from Wikipedia: Ganon first appeared in the original The Legend of Zelda game for the Famicom in 1986; the following year, the game was brought over to the American NES. In that game, Ganon first appeared sort of like a monstrous blue pig. During Link's actual fight with him, however, he turns invisible and randomly warps around the room throwing fireballs at the hero. Only a sword can cause him damage, and after being struck by it enough times he will turn red (and visible) and stop warping. At that point, Link must use a Silver Arrow to finish him off once and for all. This technique for defeating him also works in the remake, BS Zelda.
Erm...I have no idea about this
Bowser: Well, he breathes fire?
Anybody have some kind of reasonable speculation? I'm blank.
As I said before I am pretty ignorant on 8-bit games. I'm doing some searches to try to get up to speed.
I would imagine there are classic games like Zelda, Pac-man and others that will be represented in the game.
What do you more 8-bit knowledgable players think, is there a wide enough pool of characters that our speculation will not give the mafia an edge in picking false roles?
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Well, it really depends on how much obscurity fadeblue has put into the game. There is a pretty wide range of character possibilities, but as far as I can see, the amount Mafia roles are fairly limited. For example, it might be hard to put evil giant space aliens into the Mafia...
This goes for me as well. I do not know 8-Bit but I am trying to get mafia expirience so I joined the game. I think I know enough though, I know who DK and Browser are so....Mario Party all the way!
Anyway it is early game and the only way to get thigns going is votes which lead to little comments which lead to hard votes so I am voting. I do not encourage people to do so, if I did I would be considered mafia but the only way to find mafia is to do the same. Do as you choose but votes can catch mafia. Just not alot on one person.
Anyway the person that seems most fishy to me so far is LJustus. He made the first vote something that someone always has to do however he did go after a good player. Why do you want to kill a good player to begin with? Also his second two posts seem like good mafia propiganda to get you to believe he is town. Vote: LJustus
I have to say I think you're wrong. Ljustus made a good point and I think that the nature of this game's theme might lend itself to set up a similar situation. At least at this point in the game we should keep it in mind until we are reasonably sure that it's not turning out to be a similar situation.
As for his vote, he does not give any reasons but it is day one and random voting is common.
Does anyone know who Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde are?
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They're the 4 ghosts who chase Pacman around, trying to eat him.
Well, it's possible that Fade set the game up that way; I mean, certainly there are plenty of iconic characters from the old NES games that could conceivably be present at some kind of resort to which they retired. A character like Link would definitely be iconic and could be present. Same with Mario. Conversely, the same may be true for some of the baddies as well. I don't think you get more iconic a bad guy than Donkey Kong himself (if anything, he may be one of the orginal bad guys, next to the ghosts that we've apparently all become).
But yeah, I kind of have to agree with swinkee on this. If we rely too heavily on expecting the "big names" to fall into, we may miss iconic "bad guys" who didn't have any real name. Heck, while the main bad guy in Metroid was Mother Brain, the game was named after the Metroid itself; which was just one of the thousands of monsters you fought in the game. So, it's very possible that the any bad guys may be very "generic" in name (same with the heroes). Heck, what if one of the bad guys is just the Centipede?
EWP: Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Clyde were the names of the ghosts from the original Pac Man. I guess it fits that we'd all be disguised as them, as Pac Man was our host.
Nothing much to say at this point. Amazing no one looks suspicious after 34 posts.
I grew up with the NES, so it'll be interesting to see how Fadeblue paid homage to that era.
Anyway, I unfortunately grew up just at the end of the NES era, so i know a bit of stuff about NES, but not everything. We shall see how this goes.
One thing that we shall have to figure out is how condensed the characters are. Do we have only the main games here like Mario, Link and Kirby, or do we have a wide spectrum of characters. I would not be surprised if Mario, Luigi and Princess were all in the game, but i also wouldnt be surprised if only Luigi was here. That should help us hopefully spot some bad claims.
@SG: I agree with HAWKEYE here, dont worry about the first 10 posts of the game, they usually mean absolutly nothing at all.
Anyway, unvote ljustus
If saw I was not that convienced of it anyway. So what can we do to get the game moving. Claims are bad in this case. Is there anything general like a year or era claim for the game your in?
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Also, just out of curiosity, which of the handheld systems were 8-bit? I think the original Game Boy was 4-bit, no?
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Under Tramiel's ownership, Atari Corp. abandoned the game console market to concentrate on aggressively-priced home computers, releasing the 8-bit Atari XE series
NES, SMS and 8-bit Atari consoles were the 8-bit systems.
Pacman was Atari.
I am unfortunately curious - everybody is NES? If there are characters from other 8-bit consoles, it would make it easier for Mafia to hide. Therefore, DO NOT CLAIM YOUR SYSTEM.
Let us remember that a mod is this game's host. Let us not spam. Hello you to you. Did the mark of the paladin show up on me Fade? If so I am so immune!
Anyway as for Axel being mafia I also got the impression that he is playing differently than normal too but in Money Mafia someone also made that comment recently. It could be he is trying to change his game play but I do not know.
Solo, is what everyone said in Money, they said he was playing like he was by himself too much and it made it look like a mafia tactic. I don't know its worth looking into though, if you know what I mean, mon. Also at this point I think the key is to make sure no one is lurking. Lynch all lurkers is it not? Destory the block of them so we have all active players is the theory. I think that is all w2e have to go on right now.
There doesn't seem to be much to say right now.
Claiming might be able to pull out a mafia agent right now, but it would also leave the power roles exposed and out in the open. In a game this size 4-5 mafia would be standard, there are 80 some games for the nes. (not sure 100% on this one) if each game gave one claim, (and they don't, but there are many games with more then one safe claim), then our chances of getting mafia are too slim to be worth the risk.
That's what I've got to say, l8ater
More likely, there are about 5-6 evil in the game, because it's 22 people. Actually, there are hundreds of games. Since a fairly large handful of them are popular, there's a limited amount of places for a Mafia to hide. Of course, as I mentioned earlier, it all depends on how obscure the games fadeblue chose are. No doubt most of them are popular, though, so it should hopefully be reasonably easy to detect false claims.
But yeah, no claiming whatsoever right now.
Quoted for Truthery...I agreed with these #'s early on about 5-6 baddies, 7 Tops, leaving the townies with 15-17.
I'm also: unFOS: Axelrod. I feel I'm jumping the gun here a bit.
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Sure. I don't know how you did it but you just made a pro-town claim in a pro-town way. Far out. Generally it looks like a mafia tactic. Anyway I am leaning towards a 6-14 set-up because it make sense for it to have been a 5-15 set-up before Fade did the tweakig. I figure he added one of each. I wouldn't rule out 5-17 but it doubtful at best. Seven would be too much for us. Possibly a four person set-up with an SK. This seems a game an SK would be in for some reason. I must dig deeper into 8-Bit I have a feeling to find who it might be. Also I think we can rule out a two groups because of the late tweaking.
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I am quite rusty with my 8-Bit knowlege, so I have been brushing up in anticipation of this game. Hopefully having as much information on the genre as possible will help later in the game.
/meContemplates buying a new NES on eBay
of its steep paths have a chance of gaining its luminous summits"
-Karl Heinrich Marx
Cube
I will review the thread to see if everyone has posted now.