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Old 07-26-2005, 01:36 AM   #1
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Default [RAV] "Bleed" spells confirmed, 3 partial cards

Someone I speak to regularly who travels in some "inner circles" heard about some Ravnica stuff. He's provided a little minor info in the past, but never full cards. I don't doubt his honesty, although the information itself might be a little garbled by this point since it's been through a few people since leaving the original source. Nevertheless, here's what I got out of my talk with him.

Spoiling -
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Destroy target land. If any was spent to play Spoiling, all creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn.

I'm not confident about that name... and I think it'll be uncommon but I'm not sure. Pretty cool though - it's not really multicolour, but it's definitely better in a deck that can take advantage of the second half of the spell. Really messes with a green deck's mana acceleration - knocks off a land plus all the elves and birds! Note that this is one of the ideas we came up with several weeks ago when the early RAV info was leaked, and we were brainstorming other ways R&D might go about doing "guild" (or "colour pair") spells. I summarized our theories here - look at the fourth type which we were calling "Bleed" spells. We nailed it!

Flame-Something Zealot -
Creature - Elemental Berserker (U)
When Flame-Something Zealot comes into play, creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain haste until end of turn.
2/2

The name's a bit off. Pretty tasty though, and pretty aggro. Not always good to draw this, but I think in the right W/R guild deck it could definitely be an alpha strike card. In terms of design, this is more like an "Invasion style" gold card.

Peel from Reality -
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Return target creature you control and target creature you don't control to owners' hands.

Not sure of the rarity but it looks common. This seems pointless to me, but then again I'm not a fan of blue utility. At least it's an instant... might be able to mess with combat.

There's a keyword that lets you mutate a card in your hand into something else from your library, as long as both cards have the same mana cost.

And lastly, there are at least 2 cycles of land cards, possibly 3. One of them is the cycle of duals.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:42 AM   #2
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OMG Unhinged is invading real Magic!

Heavy number of land cycles, no surprise there.

B/G Control will definitely like that LD card.

I could see that blue utility card being of some use for combat tricks, maybe if Blue gets a creature with a decent CIP ability...they reprinted Anarchist, maybe Scrivener will come in this set? These 2 cards would have great synergy.

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Old 07-26-2005, 01:51 AM   #3
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2nd, woo woo! :P

The Zealot is nice. 3/3 haste turn it comes into play that pumps everything else you control. Could see some nasty r/w weenie decks with all the Kamigawa samurai if we get more like this...

edit: "Elemental Beserker". People weren't kidding about less 'tribal' stuff in this block, heh.
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first off, thanks to R_E's source for the info

as for the cards.. i kind of like spoiling.. i hope theres more cards like that.. the zealot is good in a white weenie deck splashed with red, and the blue card is weird.. maybe theres some cards that let you gain control of other people's stuff in RAV? just a thought..

once again thanx for the info.. all RAV info is appreciated by us all
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Those are going to be some strong cards in some format like limited and T2. I still want to know what they are doing for lands.


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Old 07-26-2005, 01:56 AM   #6
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first off, thanks to R_E's source for the info

... and the blue card is weird.. maybe theres some cards that let you gain control of other people's stuff in RAV? just a thought..
Or maybe there will be cards that have great come-into-play abilities. Something like Witness for example. Or maybe this is just a junk common.
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Thanks Source, and R_E.

I must say I like all three. The LD one simply wrecks soemthing like MGA. The Beserker is kinda Meh, but could be nice in limited. And the Blue one is a nice U limited trick. Nothing you want to pick high, but...<shrug>. Can't wait to hear more.

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Peel From Reality looks nuts. Assuming there are ANY good 187 creatures that are part-blue, it becomes an absolutely evil trick, along the lines of the Serrow-Witness trick (almost exatly like it, actually)
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Is it me or doesn't it strike a bit odd that none of the truly confirmed cards have the split mana cost? Even the multicolored ones? Or did I miss that one - I still think they won't change mana symbols, but that's my $0.02.
As for the cards themselves, nothing spectacular, but any scraps for the hungry is welcomed I guess.
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Intriguing... I think Peel from Reality is the only good one of that trio. Quite good in fact. If it's common, it will annoy drafters for many months.
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Is it me or doesn't it strike a bit odd that none of the truly confirmed cards have the split mana cost? Even the multicolored ones? Or did I miss that one - I still think they won't change mana symbols, but that's my $0.02.
As for the cards themselves, nothing spectacular, but any scraps for the hungry is welcomed I guess.
But we do have it confirmed that they are doing X/Y mana costs with reminder text saying X/Y can be payed with X or Y. Though I agree it is VERY suspicious that we haven't gotten anything like that...its still early and the gold cards arent even half of the set...Either way These are truly interesting...it looks like a much more refined version of Invasion (without all the weird multicolor jank that made for bizzare interactions)
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Great job R_E .
I'm pretty curious about the "mutation" cards.
Do you mean same mana cost or same converted mana cost?
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Peel from Reality will be so stupid good in limited. Damage on the stack, save my guy, bounce yours. Huge tempo + card advantage for 1U.
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wait how is that good, it saves their guy too, you should say bounce their other dude. but i agree, this card will give you a 2 for 1 every time you play it right
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wait how is that good, it saves their guy too, you should say bounce their other dude. but i agree, this card will give you a 2 for 1 every time you play it right
Uhh obviously you don't bounce their guy that has damage on him, you bounce some fatty that will make him waste his entire turn replaying it.
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