[Discussion] Landstill thread

Belgareth · 01-06-2005, 03:49 PM

This deck has proven time and time again that it is a survivor , it holds on in any metagame and commonly places in top4 on a regular basis.

This is my list , i would appreciate any comments

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Deck
4x Mishra's Factory 4x Faerie Conclave 4x Flooded Strand 4x Tundra 4x Volcanic Island 4x Wasteland 1x Island 1x Plains 4x Force of Will 4x Counterspell 4x Standstill 3x Nevinyrral's Disk 3x Swords to Plowshares 3x Lightning Bolt 3x Fire/Ice 3x Fact or Fiction 2x Stifle 2x Teferi's Response 2x Crucible of Worlds 1x Disenchant		Sideboard: 1x Nevinyrral's Disk 1x Lightning Bolt 1x Swords to Plowshares 1x Fire/Ice 1x Stifle 1x Teferi's Response 3x Disenchant 2x Misdirection 2x Red Elemental Blast 1x Pyroclasm 1x Blue Elemental Blast

I would explain my choices , but as usual i am writing yet another primer , so they will all be in there in due time

GRAH · 01-06-2005, 05:05 PM

Looks standard.

The SB is kind of shmeh-shmeh. An SB with lots of 1-ofs is traditionally a Wishboard or a Dump Truck-style SB with tutors. Unless you're going to run Cunning Wishes, an SB more suited to the environment seems better than backups.

I'd go like this:

1 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Chill (yes, Chill. You don't play enough necessary red spells for this to be a self-hurting card)
2 Disenchant
2 Misdirection
2 Pyroclasm
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Tormod's Crypt

What IS your meta?

Belgareth · 01-06-2005, 05:24 PM

Largely , ATS , some zoo , occasional goblins , UG madness .

GRAH · 01-06-2005, 05:34 PM

That changes a lot, then. Without a consistent amount of red, Chill is kind of useless. Here's what I'd recommend over my previous, based on that:

3 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Disenchant
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Pyroclasm
3 Rule of Law (the only reason to play this over Arcane Lab is because of REBs. It slows Aggro, too)
1 Rushing River
2 Tormod's Crypt

Belgareth · 02-23-2005, 11:00 AM

Well since 1.5 seems to be taking off again , I hereby ressurect this thread

Landstill has long been a dark horse that takes a top4 at every tourney.

Qwerty · 02-23-2005, 12:50 PM

Good gawd that snot green is awful :P. Your running stifle and Response is there reason, its usually the same slot and they usually serve the same role. Having 4 cards that serve that role could hinder you against some decks (ATS for example). The one rouge Disenchant looks iffy, wouldn’t Cunning Wish be served better id that spot, or add more disenchant for consistency in the place of response or stifle.

Belgareth · 02-26-2005, 05:22 AM

I have always thought the disenchant and response slots were iffy , so i may try Wish

Belgareth · 03-08-2005, 03:22 AM

Well Wish was far too slow , yes this is a double post but I have edited my posts above soooo many times !!!

Is no one interested in landstill ???

The_Monarch · 03-12-2005, 03:01 PM

Its funny....once dragon was out of legacy my friend started playin landstill and ever scince hes been placing in the top 3. At the begining he was getiing 1st almost every week. But scince then people got smart and adjusted so that he didnt completely dominate. heres his version. now im not exactly sure of all the cards but i do know of the key differences he has.

Deck
4x Mishras Factory 4x nantuko monestary 4x tundra 4x polluted delta 4x underground sea 4x tropical island 2x flooded strand 2x wasteland ?x pernicious deed ?x crucible of worlds 1x decree of justice 3-4x chainers edict 4x force of will 4x counterspell 1x misdirection 4x brainstorm ?x fact or fiction

Well thats pretty much all i can remember. i know his choice of a few things is weird but it works like crazy. i was kinda opposing the edicts but the flashback has saved his ass sooooooo many times.

his sideboard in not to sure of but the main ones are teferis response and planar void(reanimator and ats run rampant here)

CynicalSquirrel · 03-12-2005, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Monarch

Its funny....once dragon was out of legacy my friend started playin landstill and ever scince hes been placing in the top 3. At the begining he was getiing 1st almost every week. But scince then people got smart and adjusted so that he didnt completely dominate. heres his version. now im not exactly sure of all the cards but i do know of the key differences he has.

Deck
4x Mishras Factory 4x nantuko monestary 4x tundra 4x polluted delta 4x underground sea 4x tropical island 2x flooded strand 2x wasteland ?x pernicious deed ?x crucible of worlds 1x decree of justice 3-4x chainers edict 4x force of will 4x counterspell 1x misdirection 4x brainstorm ?x fact or fiction

Well thats pretty much all i can remember. i know his choice of a few things is weird but it works like crazy. i was kinda opposing the edicts but the flashback has saved his ass sooooooo many times.

his sideboard in not to sure of but the main ones are teferis response and planar void(reanimator and ats run rampant here)

No offense to your friend, but that is the worst Landstill deck I've ever seen (Although it doesn't have Standstill so you can't really call it Landstill). Unfortunately, I only have about 70 more years to live, so I can't run through what I would fix with it right now.

Bogan · 03-14-2005, 03:26 PM

I haven't last so hard in a good bit. My comment for Landstill is play more Basics. I know it sound bad, but the whole point of this deck is to dodge most hate. Also, choosing 1 color to help out Blue is nice, but if you want to play tri colored, whatever. And Cunning wish time 2 or 3 is very nice, even if you think it is slow.

Machius · 03-15-2005, 01:19 AM

If cunning wish is too slow, why not try a mystical tutor approach and run a few silver bullets maindeck? I've always been partial to landstill and in the new legacy format i think i'll have to give it another try. unfortunately for some reason i have no standstills and haven't been able to find any, it's weird because its a fairly recent uncommon and i know i had 4 of them but of all the cards in the deck its the 1 card i have trouble finding. And yes i know i could order them online but that just seems a waste of time since i don't play enough legacy and i always feel a bit stupid ordering recent uncommons.

pita · 03-15-2005, 03:30 AM

how does the deck work?

Bogan · 03-15-2005, 04:54 AM

You play Standstill and wait until they break it, then you counter their spells. Because all of your threats are lands you can bypass Standstill and keep a steady clock on them. Then you throw in a lot of instants so they might have a tougher time overloading your permision and creature control spells. Cards like Lightning Bolt and Swords to Plowshares are excellent for that.

Belgareth · 03-15-2005, 06:26 AM

Thankyou, for that brief explaination

Saved me the trouble.
This deck is very resilient and always places well.

02-23-2005, 12:50 PM	#6
Qwerty If you never tell a lie to her Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Between heaven and hell, Blue Posts: 2,803	Good gawd that snot green is awful :P. Your running stifle and Response is there reason, its usually the same slot and they usually serve the same role. Having 4 cards that serve that role could hinder you against some decks (ATS for example). The one rouge Disenchant looks iffy, wouldn’t Cunning Wish be served better id that spot, or add more disenchant for consistency in the place of response or stifle. __________________ Oi, Oi. Can you blatantly say looking straight in her face that you aint telling tales to her? That you never get stressed when she questions events you'll be best to forget, Can you actually blag when the lamb glances when you prang and your chatting? That if you had the chance to go back to her pad for a passionate act you wouldn't have it? Oi, Why's that then?

03-15-2005, 03:30 AM	#13
pita Wizard Mentor Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 490	how does the deck work? __________________ This is a placeholder for the name of my avatar's maker. Anyone wanna come and take up the plate? http://onnachance.com/quiz/fae3.gif What type of Fae are you?

03-15-2005, 04:54 AM	#14
Bogan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 891	How It Works You play Standstill and wait until they break it, then you counter their spells. Because all of your threats are lands you can bypass Standstill and keep a steady clock on them. Then you throw in a lot of instants so they might have a tougher time overloading your permision and creature control spells. Cards like Lightning Bolt and Swords to Plowshares are excellent for that.

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01-06-2005, 05:05 PM	#2
GRAH Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The City That Never Sleeps Posts: 402	Looks standard. The SB is kind of shmeh-shmeh. An SB with lots of 1-ofs is traditionally a Wishboard or a Dump Truck-style SB with tutors. Unless you're going to run Cunning Wishes, an SB more suited to the environment seems better than backups. I'd go like this: 1 Blue Elemental Blast 3 Chill (yes, Chill. You don't play enough necessary red spells for this to be a self-hurting card) 2 Disenchant 2 Misdirection 2 Pyroclasm 3 Red Elemental Blast 2 Tormod's Crypt What IS your meta?

01-06-2005, 05:34 PM	#4
GRAH Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The City That Never Sleeps Posts: 402	That changes a lot, then. Without a consistent amount of red, Chill is kind of useless. Here's what I'd recommend over my previous, based on that: 3 Blue Elemental Blast 1 Disenchant 3 Red Elemental Blast 2 Pyroclasm 3 Rule of Law (the only reason to play this over Arcane Lab is because of REBs. It slows Aggro, too) 1 Rushing River 2 Tormod's Crypt

03-14-2005, 03:26 PM	#11
Bogan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 891	I haven't last so hard in a good bit. My comment for Landstill is play more Basics. I know it sound bad, but the whole point of this deck is to dodge most hate. Also, choosing 1 color to help out Blue is nice, but if you want to play tri colored, whatever. And Cunning wish time 2 or 3 is very nice, even if you think it is slow.