Great ideas. I thought about Desolation Angel but LD just really brings a lot of heat your way and I don't think that this deck can handle that. Buuuuuut if it can get through with a mostly clean board it can certainly dominate games. I'll have to think about it. Miraculous Recovery is damn awesome. Thanks for pointing me towards it because that is exactly why I started this thread, to find cards that I missed. I understand I don't have a lot of instants to trigger Pristine Angel but she's still a decent Angel. Any replacements other than Desolation Angel?
You might prefer the flexibility of Profane Command, but I think I would rather play Death Grasp over it in this deck. If you look at both like cards that provide you with an extra way of killing someone, I like Death Grasp more just because of the life you get back from it. That can really pull you back into a game.
Also, I'm assuming it's not in the list because you don't own a copy, but Vindicate should be in here eventually.
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Reason I chose Profane Command over any other W/B X spell is because of the option for reanimation if I fill enough mana into it, which really goes with the reanimation sub-theme, so I probably won't be replacing it any time soon. It's a good idea but also takes some focus away from the themes. Same with Vindicate, it's a powerful card but right now would be just a 1-of that I'd rarely see. They're definitely good ideas and I'll see how some real-life games go before deciding on if I need these cards or not.
I can't believe I forgot about Makeshift Mannequin. I can definitely find a slot to put it in, and will be looking to do so soon. Thanks for the help guys!
Seems like a weak geneal. Maybe antother w/b legend? or do you have selenia for falvor?
I built a Selenia deck and decided she was not only a little weak, but didn't really inspire any ideas for me. It ended up being kinda generic BWgood stuff.
However, maybe with some Death Match effects and life gain?
The entire point of using Selenia was for flavor. I like Angels and had quite a good amount of the good ones in my collection, so I decided to make a deck with them in it. The entire reason I'm trying to stick to the themes is so it doesn't become another generic W/B Good Stuff deck. I know it's not super competetive or anything, but I'm not aiming to win tournaments with it.
Dustbowl, Wasteland, and Stripmine, Dustbowl combos with ruins of trokair. Might as well add a Vesuva to clone your coffers. Doomed Necromancer, combos with a few of your angels for some repeater-recursion.
Yes, as I was going back through cards I saw Doomed Necromancer and thought he might be a good fit. I don't like his fragility with needing a turn before he can activate, but we'll see what happens with him. As for the LD lands, I'll see if I can get my hands on them before I add them to the deck. I definitely like the non-basic land killer as quite a few decks in my meta run annoying non-basics such as Maze of Ith.
Dustbowl is awesome , makes people think twice about trying to blow one of your lands with it active. Just a though, Maybe try Spirit Loop, I know most people frown upon auras, but it's recursive, I also love Cessation, making people overextend into a boardsweeper owns... it also keeps giant fatties from swinging at you.
Yes, as I was going back through cards I saw Doomed Necromancer and thought he might be a good fit. I don't like his fragility with needing a turn before he can activate, but we'll see what happens with him. As for the LD lands, I'll see if I can get my hands on them before I add them to the deck. I definitely like the non-basic land killer as quite a few decks in my meta run annoying non-basics such as Maze of Ith.
Eh, I'd rather play Hell's Caretaker over Doomed Necromancer. Here's why: worst case scenario, you pay 1 more for HC over DN if you sac the HC to itself for a reanimation, and it's restricted to your upkeep. However, if it lasts, it can set you up for some nice shenanigans (if you go for the Caretaker, it might be worth running Shriekmaw, unless that's too out of flavour).
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Why not find room for both? Though The HC paints a bigger target then the DN, I was looking at it more for use as a sac to get a fatty back, rather then sac a fatty to get a different fatty. You can also sac it to get your HC back!
The problem with Hell's Caretaker I have is that most creatures I have in the deck are fatties anyway so you're just kinda trading one for another. Hopefully there's already enough reanimation effects in there to make an impact without having to add DN or HC.
The problem with Hell's Caretaker I have is that most creatures I have in the deck are fatties anyway so you're just kinda trading one for another. Hopefully there's already enough reanimation effects in there to make an impact without having to add DN or HC.
Agreed. I was just saying if you were to choose one, I think HC is better than DN, at least in my experience.
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When I get the actual physical deck built, I'll come back and post a new list. Some of the more expensive cards I was unable to get a hold of are missing (Vampiric Tutor, Wrath of God) and a couple of the lands, but otherwise it's pretty similar. However I was able to get my hands on a Strip Mine and Dust Bowl, so those are some additions.
Nice to find someone else using Selenia, Dark Angel as an EDH General. She has the benefit of allowing you to build a strong deck using the power cards from 2 of the 3 strongest colors(the other being blue) and not having to worry about how they interact with your general. I've also often found her useful for the ability to continuously chump block especially the Rith etc. and Numot etc. cycles which are often used as generals.
A reanimation theme is pretty cool, I personally went with a much more control style deck(lot's of wraths, tutors, card advantage engines and the best finishers).
The only major suggestion i'd give is to add Liliana Vess into the deck, multiple tutoring is brilliant and if you want to you can always force people to discard(including yourself if you need a way to get something into your graveyard), not to mention the ultimate which while unlikely to happen often is a fantastic mass reanimation ability.
Also it's pretty expensive but you might want to consider Betrayal of Flesh as another instant speed reanimation spell which also has the advantage of also being a removal spell and late game(when you have excess land) can do both.
I have now updated the deck to how it looks in the physical realm. I was unable to get my hands on an Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Deathbringer Liege, or Divinity of Pride, but I will be putting an Akroma in as soon as I get my hands on the Divine Vs Demonic duel decks. Please look over the deck again guys and give me some pointers.
I've played this a couple times and it's always pretty much been a relevant threat as long as I can draw cards. I had to add Greed in because I had it and it provides me with a way to draw cards. It has served me quite well so far. I also added in Fallen Angel because I have a problem with people RFG-ing Angels out of play, so I'd like to have a way to sacrifice them in response so I can reanimate them.
So far, it's been a really fun deck to play. Selenia, Dark Angel has been a blast to play with because she almost always costs 3WB because of her being able to return to my hand. I swear, one game I think I played her like 10 times from hand because she kept getting bounced to avoid removal or to block and keep the opponent from getting a benefit (lifelinkers).
And Machius, thanks for the suggestions. I had no idea how well Liliana Vess played along with my deck. I'll definitely be hunting her down to put into the deck. And I'll probably also get the Betrayal of Flesh to replace one of the other resurrection spells because of its instant speed. Thanks!
Shameless bump because it's been so long and I've made massive changes to the deck so it is no longer really the same thing anymore. It's turned into a W/B good stuff and I could use some help or pointers on how to make it more brutal.
1 Selenia, Dark Angel
Planeswalker (1):
1 Liliana Vess
Creatures (18):
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Angel of Despair
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Blazing Archon
1 Deathbringer Liege
1 Desolation Angel
1 Divinity of Pride
1 Duplicant
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Exalted Angel
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Kagemaro, First to Suffer
1 Pentarch Paladin
1 Platinum Angel
1 Puppeteer Clique
1 Reiver Demon
1 Stonehewer Giant
1 Weathered Wayfarer
Instants (3):
1 Condemn
1 Mortify
1 Path to Exile
Sorceries (17):
1 Akroma's Vengeance
1 Austere Command
1 Beacon of Unrest
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Cataclysm
1 Consume Spirit
1 Corrupt
1 Damnation
1 Death Grasp
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Evangelize
1 Hallowed Burial
1 Martial Coup
1 Profane Command
1 Promise of Power
1 Syphon Mind
1 Debtors' Knell
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Land Tax
1 Necropotence
1 Oblivion Ring
Artifacts (15):
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Coalition Relic
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Mind's Eye
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Whispersilk Cloak
Lands (40):
13 Plains
14 Swamp
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Dust Bowl
1 Kor Haven
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rupture Spire
1 Strip Mine
1 Tainted Field
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Vivid Marsh
1 Vivid Meadow
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It's already in the list.
I can't believe I forgot Animate Dead. I'll definitely remove Dance of the Dead for it.
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Also, I'm assuming it's not in the list because you don't own a copy, but Vindicate should be in here eventually.
I can't believe I forgot about Makeshift Mannequin. I can definitely find a slot to put it in, and will be looking to do so soon. Thanks for the help guys!
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I built a Selenia deck and decided she was not only a little weak, but didn't really inspire any ideas for me. It ended up being kinda generic BWgood stuff.
However, maybe with some Death Match effects and life gain?
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Eh, I'd rather play Hell's Caretaker over Doomed Necromancer. Here's why: worst case scenario, you pay 1 more for HC over DN if you sac the HC to itself for a reanimation, and it's restricted to your upkeep. However, if it lasts, it can set you up for some nice shenanigans (if you go for the Caretaker, it might be worth running Shriekmaw, unless that's too out of flavour).
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Agreed. I was just saying if you were to choose one, I think HC is better than DN, at least in my experience.
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A reanimation theme is pretty cool, I personally went with a much more control style deck(lot's of wraths, tutors, card advantage engines and the best finishers).
The only major suggestion i'd give is to add Liliana Vess into the deck, multiple tutoring is brilliant and if you want to you can always force people to discard(including yourself if you need a way to get something into your graveyard), not to mention the ultimate which while unlikely to happen often is a fantastic mass reanimation ability.
Also it's pretty expensive but you might want to consider Betrayal of Flesh as another instant speed reanimation spell which also has the advantage of also being a removal spell and late game(when you have excess land) can do both.
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I've played this a couple times and it's always pretty much been a relevant threat as long as I can draw cards. I had to add Greed in because I had it and it provides me with a way to draw cards. It has served me quite well so far. I also added in Fallen Angel because I have a problem with people RFG-ing Angels out of play, so I'd like to have a way to sacrifice them in response so I can reanimate them.
So far, it's been a really fun deck to play. Selenia, Dark Angel has been a blast to play with because she almost always costs 3WB because of her being able to return to my hand. I swear, one game I think I played her like 10 times from hand because she kept getting bounced to avoid removal or to block and keep the opponent from getting a benefit (lifelinkers).
And Machius, thanks for the suggestions. I had no idea how well Liliana Vess played along with my deck. I'll definitely be hunting her down to put into the deck. And I'll probably also get the Betrayal of Flesh to replace one of the other resurrection spells because of its instant speed. Thanks!
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