[RAV] Boros Signet

rancored_elf · 08-06-2005, 11:23 PM

From a source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I've known this person since the early MTGnews days and they've always been honest with me, and they've occasionally had tidbits of rumor information in the past, so I'm not skeptical about this info. I've always thought of them as a bit of a joker, however.

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Section a

There are four common artifacts in the set.

Section b

Boros Signet -

Artifact (C)

,

: Add

to your mana pool.

Section c

There are six plants in the set.

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Interesting that the city contains only a handful of common artifacts, but I like the flavour of it in this case because every guild member probably carries a signet with them, so that makes sense. A signet is usually a small item like a brooch or ring used to seal a document, like a scroll with wax. It bears the mark or inscription of the person or group the document belongs to.

As a card, it's quite a powerful mana fixer IMO. Also, it's mana acceleration, since it costs 1 and taps for 2. And it doesn't come into play tapped, so on turn three you can tap

and get

back for a spell, like one of the soldiers we've seen with that cost. And then on the fourth turn you've got four lands and the signet for a total of 5 mana, with no colour problems.

So... Dimir Signet?

Whatah · 08-06-2005, 11:27 PM

I love it-- artifact versions of the odessey block "filter lands" and i guess we will get 10 of them over the course of the block.

yes, very good mana fixing... since they are artifacts they function as acceleration like the land versions did not...

Kid A · 08-06-2005, 11:28 PM

Huh, seems like nice limited mana fixing. Might be decent in constucted too. I wonder what six plants means...

Aggro_zombies · 08-06-2005, 11:31 PM

boros is an interesting name for this guild, not as good flavor-wise as dimir, but nice...and the fact that it's common is suprising, given that wizards doesn't often print common artifacts any more (mirrodin was an exception).

as always, good work R_E and thank you source! have a cookie!

**rianalnn** · 08-06-2005, 11:31 PM

It's not really accel, though, Elf. Initially cost

for 2 of a colour.

I liked these better when they were lands, but I can see how they are healthy for the block. Prolly 6 more comin' in the next two sets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dauthi Soultaker

I wonder what six plants means...

Six cards they put in specifically to include in the next Core Set?

edit - *reads Machius' post* Ah. Plant. Right.

Machius · 08-06-2005, 11:32 PM

Artifact, filter lands, 1 for each of the 4 guilds in the 1st set and then probably 1 for each of the 3 guilds in each of the following 2 sets.

Plants is a bit weird though, i always hated the creature type plant(Utopia Tree).

Theif of Time · 08-06-2005, 11:35 PM

Creature-plants or core set plants?

Fats McRobot · 08-06-2005, 11:37 PM

Nice. Though I feel kinda prejudiced that Red and White are mixing. WW must a hit in exchange for multiness...

IMO, the signets are strictly better than the Filters, I think...

Hunter · 08-06-2005, 11:38 PM

Ergo: These must be the signets by which one recognises another guildmember, that's why they are common. And we all know how they look like, these must be the 'new mana-symbols'

Secundo: it is isn't Flamefist-guild but Boros-Guild

Tertio: logicalwise the other common artifacts of this fourpart-cycle are

> Dimir-signet- UB
> 'Candelabra Bush' -signet - WG
> 'Spider' - signet - BG

Icejelly · 08-06-2005, 11:40 PM

oh wow! interesting filter-esque artifacts. Interesting little rings they are (see Tidings for an idea of a signet). About the plants...time for Utopia Tree to go tribal?

KkAaZz · 08-06-2005, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rianalnn

It's not really accel, though, Elf. Initially cost

for 2 of a colour.

I liked these better when they were lands, but I can see how they are healthy for the block. Prolly 6 more comin' in the next two sets.

Six cards they put in specifically to include in the next Core Set?

edit - *reads Machius' post* Ah. Plant. Right.

Yes, but on turn 4, you have 5 mana available, thus accel. Also, you could play it turn 2 to get 4 mana on turn 3.

Celestial_kitsune · 08-06-2005, 11:43 PM

ooo, so if there are signets for all guilds... well, the dimir signet should be a fun artifact.
either way, this will see play, and all the other signets too (assuming there will be more, which i belive is a safe assumption.)

Hunter · 08-06-2005, 11:47 PM

Ok, what does this mean for the guildmana-system as we understand it?
With a signet-ring someone creates a seal

The Boros Guildmage has two Boros-seals

Boros Guildmage (r/w)(r/w)
Creature - Human Wizard
((r/w) can be paid with either R or W.)

: Target creature gains haste until end of turn.

: Target creature gains first strike until end of turn.
2/2

I also think you must have a signet in play before you may play the relevant guildcards

magicianofthought · 08-06-2005, 11:50 PM

Well i fell tha accel is what we think it is to help us.
Such as WWWWR to WWRR, due see what i done for WW i made a R, thus R mana accel.

**rianalnn** · 08-06-2005, 11:58 PM

@_@

Yeah, my bad. I was thinking same-turn accel rather than next-turn. I better have some coffee, they don't do things that efficiently (read:broken) anymore.

08-06-2005, 11:23 PM	#1
rancored_elf change we can imagine Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: peak everything Posts: 8,984	[RAV] Boros Signet From a source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I've known this person since the early MTGnews days and they've always been honest with me, and they've occasionally had tidbits of rumor information in the past, so I'm not skeptical about this info. I've always thought of them as a bit of a joker, however. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Section a There are four common artifacts in the set. Section b Boros Signet - Artifact (C) , : Add to your mana pool. Section c There are six plants in the set. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interesting that the city contains only a handful of common artifacts, but I like the flavour of it in this case because every guild member probably carries a signet with them, so that makes sense. A signet is usually a small item like a brooch or ring used to seal a document, like a scroll with wax. It bears the mark or inscription of the person or group the document belongs to. As a card, it's quite a powerful mana fixer IMO. Also, it's mana acceleration, since it costs 1 and taps for 2. And it doesn't come into play tapped, so on turn three you can tap and get back for a spell, like one of the soldiers we've seen with that cost. And then on the fourth turn you've got four lands and the signet for a total of 5 mana, with no colour problems. So... Dimir Signet? __________________ "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

08-06-2005, 11:27 PM	#2
Whatah Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 109	I love it-- artifact versions of the odessey block "filter lands" and i guess we will get 10 of them over the course of the block. yes, very good mana fixing... since they are artifacts they function as acceleration like the land versions did not... __________________ "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.'' -Mentat Creed Last edited by rancored_elf : 08-06-2005 at 11:29 PM.

08-06-2005, 11:28 PM	#3
Kid A Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,021	Huh, seems like nice limited mana fixing. Might be decent in constucted too. I wonder what six plants means... __________________ Thanks to R&Doom at Ye Olde Sig and Avatar Shoppe for resizing a painting by Stanley Donwood \\ DCI Ratings \\ Constructed - 1981 - (High 2002) \\ Limited - 1936 - (High 2004) \\ Last edited by Kid A : 08-06-2005 at 11:31 PM.

08-06-2005, 11:37 PM	#8
Fats McRobot Archmage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An insignifigant speck on a has-been planet orbitted by a cold indifferent sun. Posts: 975	Nice. Though I feel kinda prejudiced that Red and White are mixing. WW must a hit in exchange for multiness... IMO, the signets are strictly better than the Filters, I think... __________________ After millennia of advancement in goblin military theory, Toggo VI realized that almost everyone is afraid of fire.

08-06-2005, 11:38 PM	#9
Hunter Rumormonger Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Big Brother City Posts: 1,644	Ergo: These must be the signets by which one recognises another guildmember, that's why they are common. And we all know how they look like, these must be the 'new mana-symbols' Secundo: it is isn't Flamefist-guild but Boros-Guild Tertio: logicalwise the other common artifacts of this fourpart-cycle are > Dimir-signet- UB > 'Candelabra Bush' -signet - WG > 'Spider' - signet - BG Last edited by Hunter : 08-06-2005 at 11:45 PM.


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08-06-2005, 11:35 PM	#7
Theif of Time Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 140	Creature-plants or core set plants?

08-06-2005, 11:40 PM	#10
Icejelly You're Doing It Wrong! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: S-s-singapore! Posts: 1,789	oh wow! interesting filter-esque artifacts. Interesting little rings they are (see Tidings for an idea of a signet). About the plants...time for Utopia Tree to go tribal?

08-06-2005, 11:43 PM	#12
Celestial_kitsune Archmage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas, with a summer home inside your mind. Posts: 879	ooo, so if there are signets for all guilds... well, the dimir signet should be a fun artifact. either way, this will see play, and all the other signets too (assuming there will be more, which i belive is a safe assumption.) __________________

08-06-2005, 11:47 PM	#13
Hunter Rumormonger Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Big Brother City Posts: 1,644	Ok, what does this mean for the guildmana-system as we understand it? With a signet-ring someone creates a seal The Boros Guildmage has two Boros-seals Boros Guildmage (r/w)(r/w) Creature - Human Wizard ((r/w) can be paid with either R or W.) : Target creature gains haste until end of turn. : Target creature gains first strike until end of turn. 2/2 I also think you must have a signet in play before you may play the relevant guildcards Last edited by Hunter : 08-06-2005 at 11:57 PM.

08-06-2005, 11:50 PM	#14
magicianofthought ħ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: There. Posts: 1,601	Well i fell tha accel is what we think it is to help us. Such as WWWWR to WWRR, due see what i done for WW i made a R, thus R mana accel. __________________ Team Draw 7: Getting Card Advantage in XCB

08-06-2005, 11:58 PM	#15
rianalnn statuesque Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: by the beach Posts: 5,198	Magician of whaaaat? @_@ Yeah, my bad. I was thinking same-turn accel rather than next-turn. I better have some coffee, they don't do things that efficiently (read:broken) anymore. __________________ acryliconomicon \| trade pile x Sun Tzu's the Art of War x b o a r d s _o f_ c a n a d a eccentric black sheep of the Called "Is not zeal the sign of truth? Could a lie inspire such passion?" —Cartaphilus, the wandering Jew

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