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Old 05-07-2009, 08:42 PM   #1
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This thread is primarily to take the place of Tumultuous' [EDH] Deckbuilding Guide: Best Cards. The reason for this is because Tumultuous has said the following on his thread:

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I removed Tinker and added Rhystic Study. I've been super busy at work and planning my wedding, so I really just don't have the time to dedicate to this anymore. If someone wants to takeover and repost the list so they can do modifications, go right ahead. I don't think I'll have time to focus on it any time in the near future. My apologies.
So I thought I would fulfill his request. I have taken some of the advice that people offered in the last few pages of his thread regarding his list. Modified the lists accordingly, and updated them. If anyone has any further suggestions, please post them in this thread instead of Tumultuous' thread. Thanks.

The thread is dedicated to the top-35 cards of each color. It is sorted alphabetically.

P.S. When you make suggestions, please suggest your card, along with idea's on what could be taken off the list in favor of your card.

P.S.S. With regards to the functional reprints on the list. They do technically take up a single slot on the list. However due to the way Deck Tags work, I have had to list each one separately, in order to allow them to be readable by the deck tags. That is why you see each functional reprint on the list separate from the others of their kind. Sorry for the confusion this has caused.

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White:
1 Academy Rector
2 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
3 Akroma's Vengeance
4 Archon of Justice
5 Armageddon
5 Ravages of War (functional)
6 Austere Command
7 Aven Mindcensor
8 Baneslayer Angel
9 Cataclysm
10 Catastrophe
11 Condemn
12 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
13 Enlightened Tutor
14 Eternal Dragon
15 Hallowed Burial
16 Humility
17 Idyllic Tutor
18 Karmic Guide
19 Land Tax
20 Luminarch Ascension
21 Martial Coup
22 Mirror Entity
23 Oblivion Ring
24 Path to Exile
25 Replenish
26 Return to Dust
27 Reveillark
28 Reverse the Sands
29 Rout
30 Sacred Mesa
31 Stonehewer Giant
32 Swords to Plowshares
33 Weathered Wayfarer
34 World Queller
35 Yosei, the Morning Star

Blue:
1 Acquire
2 Bribery
3 Capsize
4 Cryptic Command
5 Declaration of Naught
6 Desertion
7 Draining Whelk
8 Evacuation
9 Fabricate
10 Fact or Fiction
11 Force of Will
12 Future Sight
13 Gilded Drake
14 Glen Elendra Archmage
15 Hinder
16 Intuition
17 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
18 Keiga, the Tide Star
19 Magus of the Future
20 Mana Drain
21 Merchant Scroll
22 Mind over Matter
23 Mystical Tutor
24 Rhystic Study
25 Rite of Replication
26 Spin into Myth
27 Sunder
28 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
29 Time Stretch
30 Time Spiral
31 Timetwister
32 Treachery
33 Trinket Mage
34 Venser, Shaper Savant
35 Voidmage Husher

Black:
1 Ambition's Cost
1 Ancient Craving (Functional)
2 Avatar of Woe
3 Beacon of Unrest
4 Butcher of Malakir
5 Chainer, Dementia Master
6 Consume Spirit
7 Damnation
8 Decree of Pain
9 Demonic Tutor
10 Diabolic Tutor
11 Grim Tutor
12 Imperial Seal
13 Infernal Darkness
13 Contamination (functional)
14 Ink-Eyes, Servant of the Oni
15 Insidious Dreams
16 Liliana Vess
17 Myojin of Night's Reach
18 Mind Twist
19 Necrolagia
20 Necropotence
21 Nezumi Graverobber
22 Oversold Cemetery
23 Overwhelming Forces
24 Phyrexian Arena
25 Pox
26 Profane Command
27 Promise of Power
28 Puppeteer Clique
29 Reiver Demon
30 Rend Flesh
31 Skeletal Scrying
32 Sorin Markov
33 Syphon Mind
34 Vampiric Tutor
35 Yawgmoth's Will

Red:
1 Akroma, Angel of Fury
2 Anarchist
3 Anger
4 Avatar of Fury
5 Banefire
6 Blood Moon
6 Magus of the Moon (semi functional)
7 Bogardan Hellkite
8 Boom/Bust
9 Demonfire
10 Decree of Annihilation
11 Dwarven Blastminer
12 Dwarven Miner
13 Fault Line
14 Flameblast Dragon
15 Fork
16 Gamble
17 Gratuitous Violence
18 Hellkite Charger
19 Imperial Recruiter
20 Insurrection
21 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
22 Molten Disaster
23 Obliterate
24 Price of Glory
25 Price of Progress
26 Recoup
27 Reiterate
28 Ruination
29 Starstorm
30 Viashino Heretic
31 Vicious Shadows
32 Wheel of Fortune
33 Wildfire
33 Burning of Xinye (functional)
34 Wild Ricochet
35 Word of Seizing
Green:
1 Avenger of Zendikar
2 Acidic Slime
3 Berserk
4 Chord of Calling
5 Deadwood Treefolk
6 Doubling Season
7 Earthcraft
8 Eternal Witness
9 Exploration
10 Garruk Wildspeaker
11 Genesis
12 Greater Good
13 Kodama's Reach
14 Krosan Grip
15 Krosan Tusker
16 Life from the Loam
17 Mana Reflection
18 Momentous Fall
19 Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
20 Natural Order
21 Oracle of Mul Daya
22 Primal Command
23 Regrowth
24 Restock
25 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
26 Seedborn Muse
27 Skyshroud Claim
28 Survival of the Fittest
29 Sylvan Library
30 Terastodon
31 Tooth and Nail
32 Verdant Force
33 Wild Pair
34 Worldly Tutor
35 Yavimaya Elder

Multi's
1 Aura Shards
2 Angel of Despair
3 Bant Charm
4 Coiling Oracle
5 Crime(Crime/Punishment)
6 Cruel Ultimatum
7 Death Grasp
8 Debtor's Knell
9 Divinity of Pride
10 Eladamri's Call
11 Gaddock Teeg
12 Hellkite Overlord
13 Hull Breach
14 Knight of the Reliquary
15 Lim-Dul's Vault
16 Maelstrom Pulse
17 Magister Sphinx
18 Meddling Mage
19 Memory Plunder
20 Mistmeadow Witch
21 Mirari's Wake
22 Mortify
23 Mystic Snake
24 Naya Charm
25 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
26 Pernicious Deed
27 Privileged Position
28 Putrefy
29 Sarkhan Vol
30 Simic Sky Swallower
31 Trygon Predator
32 Vengeful Rebirth
33 Vindicate
34 Voidslime
35 Wargate

COLORLESS (newly renamed):
1 All is Dust
2 Coalition Relic
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Duplicant
5 Expedition Map
6 Extraplanar Lens
7 Gauntlet of Power
8 Gilded Lotus
9 Helm of Possession
10 Lightning Greaves
11 Loxodon Warhammer
12 Mana Crypt
13 Mana Vault
14 Memnarch
15 Memory Jar
16 Mind's Eye
17 Mindslaver
18 Mirari
19 Nevinyrral's Disk
20 Oblivion Stone
21 Planar Portal
22 Pithing Needle
23 Relic of Progenitus
24 Scroll Rack
25 Sensei's Divining Top
26 Skullclamp
27 Solemn Simulacrum
28 Sol Ring
29 Sunforger
30 Sword of Fire and Ice
31 Sword of Light and Shadow
32 Sundering Titan
33 Umezawa's Jitte
34 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
35 Vedalken Orrery

Lands:
1 Academy Ruins
2 Ancient Tomb
3 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
4 Cabal Coffers
5 Dust Bowl
6 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
7 Eye of Ugin
8 Gaea's Cradle
9 Gargoyle Castle
10 High Market
11 Kor Haven
12 Maze of Ith
13 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
14 Miren, the Moaning Well
15 Mishra's Factory
16 Mouth of Ronom
17 Mutavault
18 Nantuko Monastery
19 Reliquary Tower
20 Riptide Laboratory
21 Scrying Sheets
22 Serra's Sanctum
23 Strip Mine
24 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
25 Tectonic Edge
26 Temple of the False God
27 Thawing Glaciers
28 Tolarian Academy
29 Tolaria West
30 Treetop Village
31 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
32 Vesuva
33 Volrath's Stronghold
34 Wasteland
35 Yavimaya Hollow
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:45 PM   #2
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Old 05-08-2009, 06:23 AM   #3
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Beacon of tomorrows is an awesome blue card it gets shuffled back in after use!!!
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Old 05-08-2009, 06:41 AM   #4
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Blue has Ponder but no Brainstorm, brainstorm is the superior one of the two in most cases.
Red has Wildfire but no Burning of Xinye. If wildfire deserves spot, so does burning.
Gather Specimens probably deserves a spot in the blue list.
Strip Mine needs to be higher than 16th, probably in top-5.
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Old 05-08-2009, 06:54 AM   #5
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Blue has Ponder but no Brainstorm, brainstorm is the superior one of the two in most cases.
I think that depends heavily on the build, Brainstorm is usually only better if you have a lot of shuffle effects or to protect key cards from targeted discard. Most of the lists I have seen don't have enough shuffle effects and targeted discard is pretty rare outside of 1 vs. 1.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:55 AM   #6
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Blue has Ponder but no Brainstorm, brainstorm is the superior one of the two in most cases.
Red has Wildfire but no Burning of Xinye. If wildfire deserves spot, so does burning.
Gather Specimens probably deserves a spot in the blue list.
Strip Mine needs to be higher than 16th, probably in top-5.
I took Brainstorm out due to someone in the last thread suggesting that there are not enough shuffle effects in the format to make running it worth it. I would be willing to put it back on the list if it was felt that there are enough shuffle effects (and/or someone suggested what to take off the list). Likewise with Gather Specimens, I would kind of need an idea what you felt I should replace it with.

Considering Wildfire is a functional Reprint of Burning Xineye, and from a much more widely printed series of sets than Burning Xineye was, I think I will keep Wildfire on the list but not Burning Xineye. Similar reason for why I put Ambition's Cost on the list but not Ancient Craving

In the case of Strip Mine, remember that the cards are listed Alphabetically, not based on how they are rated. So um... I don't really know, what I would rate Strip Mine out of the top-25, if I had to rate it.

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Beacon of tomorrows is an awesome blue card it gets shuffled back in after use!!!
Do you have any idea's what I could take off the list in favor of Beacon of Tomorrow's (though honestly I think Time Stretch is the better card in this case).
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:05 AM   #7
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No, I beleive that Time Stretch is better, unless you need the shuffle.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:43 AM   #8
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I like Return to Dust in white. You're almost always going to have two worthwhile (or must-answer) targets in this format. Plus it deals with Darksteel Colossus and Darksteel Forge. It could take Elspeth, Knight Errant's spot. Ajani's -1 ability gets better the more players you have in the game, while her +1 abilities get less and less relevant.

In green there's Skyshroud Claim and Woodfall Primus. Claim could take Explosive Vegetation's slot; it puts the lands in untapped and it can search up dual lands or shocklands. Primus could replace Lifegift or Rude Awakening. I don't have much experience with those, but it seems like there are better ways to gain life, untap lands, or make lands into guys.

And for lands, Mouth of Ronom should replace Faerie Conclave. Four colorless uncounterable damage is exactly what you need sometimes when a tricky general is about to wreck the table.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:30 PM   #9
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Blue card drawing that nets you more cards than you started with:
Concentrate
Tidings
Opportunity
are all staples in my EDH blue decks... Ponder, storm, etc. aren't good enough. I'd have to say that Impulse isn't good enough either.

For artifacts I was VERY surprised not to see Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo! All my EDH decks run Lotus and 3/4 run Dynamo. Not only do they accelerate +3 mana, but they can be tapped the turn they come into play which means an extra drop OR counter-magic mana available.
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Old 05-08-2009, 03:11 PM   #10
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For artifacts I was VERY surprised not to see Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo! All my EDH decks run Lotus and 3/4 run Dynamo. Not only do they accelerate +3 mana, but they can be tapped the turn they come into play which means an extra drop OR counter-magic mana available.
I very much agree, though am not sure what to cut for them, any suggestions? I was thinking either Darksteel Ingot, or Coalition Relic, since those are essentially weaker versions of the cards in question...
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I very much agree, though am not sure what to cut for them, any suggestions? I was thinking either Darksteel Ingot, or Coalition Relic, since those are essentially weaker versions of the cards in question...
I think Thousand Year Elixir should go out since it is so deck dependent. I would only add Gilded Lotus and not the Dynamo, I like the Dynamo but I think the artifact list is starting to get saturated with mana producers.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:06 PM   #12
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I agree on Thran Dynamo>Darksteel Ingot. I'm really a fan of getting more out of your card like Rampant Growth sucks whereas Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are desired. If you think about it, Ingot is basically an Untamed Wilds without the shuffling effect (okay, so it produces any color mana and some 5 color decks that's relevant, but really if you're running 3 or less colors, I rarely have color mana issues). +3 mana and still being able to do something the turn you play it is SO good.

Temple of the False god>Ancient Tomb. Basically it does the same thing, but you have to wait a couple turns. Maybe I'm missing something, and I know you start at 40 life, but I use up my mana almost every turn in EDH so I'm not impressed with Tomb (2 damage a turn is a lot). I have not problem with City of Brass or Grand Coliseum in my Horde of Notions deck, but otherwise I don't run pain lands.

Extraplanar Lens and Thousand Year Elixir can go... maybe even Vedalken Shackles. I think Memnarch is a million times better than Shackles (not needing islands, keeping it even if the stealing permenant leaves play). I played Memnarch in Sharuum and Shackles in Llawan... it's really dependent on the number of islands... then again, I don't run dual lands (I'm more of a budget player). Wait a second, did Mindslaver get banned? I don't see it on the list! Has anyone else had success with Erratic Portal? I started using it in my Llawan deck, but noticed how awesome it is to pay 1 to return a CITP effect creature to your hand (especialy with Evoke!). Getting back to my point about Lens... you have Mirari's Wake which makes sense because it's clearly better than Lens. But you don't have Mana Reflection in the green section and that's clearly better than Lens (because you don't have to be playing a mono-colored deck, it counts ALL your lands, doesn't RFG when it CITP, and DOUBLES artifact mana as well-Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo, even the signets are awesome). I think Lens is too restrictive, just like DMcD said about T-YE.

Just asking a question to everyone: How do you feel about Tidespout Tyrant and Arcanis the Omnipotent? Both have just won me games (usually Tyrant needs to live one turn to have a huge impact on a game and Arcanis is going to draw you cards at some point due to it's bouncing and Ancestral Recall for t is pretty good, plus it's NUTZ with Lightning Greaves). Just wondering if anyone else has experienced good times with those two cards.

Card tag fix: Glen Elandra Archmage should be Glen Elendra Archmage

I'll think more later, but that's enough for now.
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Side note, I put Explosive Vegation back on the list in place of Skyshroud Claim due to the fact that Explosive Vegetation searches ANY two basic lands, where as Skyshroud Claim only searches for two Forests.
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Anyone like Vengeful Rebirth? I'm play testing it in Uril and it's been amazing. Usually it hits for at least 6... but I got back a Woodfall Primus after it destroyed two of their permenants and started the shennanigans again... with EIGHT damage to boot! I think the cost is justified... what do you think?

I think Mana Reflection should be in... maybe over Wild Pair which is kind of limited since there's 1 of each spell and it's good in certain decks (slivers for example), but Mana Reflection is good in most to every green deck.

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Skull Clamp to Skullclamp
Kikki Jikki, Mirror Breaker to Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Priveleged Position to Privileged Position
Mirrari's Wake to Mirari's Wake
Crime/Punishment to Crime (Crime/Punishment)

Okay, I'm really done for the night this time. Thanks for all your hard work updating!

Trying out tags...
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Creatures:
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Crime (Crime/Punishment)
1 Crime
1 Punishment
1 Crime (Punishment)

So, both of them worked (either with the old link or with just the single card name). Try it out with just one of the cards names. Note Punishment doesn't work (probably because it's the second card or the card on the "right" or whatever). Just use the first card for those and then you can put the second name in parenthesis.
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Okay, I'm really done for the night this time. Thanks for all your hard work updating!
I can't quite figure out how to make that one work in deck tags, I can't use URL code the way you did in a deck tag, and when I try to put things in parentheses they simply come up as non-linked text in the deck tags, while the word outside the parentheses comes up as linked.

Anyways it isn't a problem...
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