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Blue has Ponder but no Brainstorm, brainstorm is the superior one of the two in most cases.
Red has Wildfire but no Burning of Xinye. If wildfire deserves spot, so does burning. Gather Specimens probably deserves a spot in the blue list. Strip Mine needs to be higher than 16th, probably in top-5. |
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Considering Wildfire is a functional Reprint of Burning Xineye, and from a much more widely printed series of sets than Burning Xineye was, I think I will keep Wildfire on the list but not Burning Xineye. Similar reason for why I put Ambition's Cost on the list but not Ancient Craving In the case of Strip Mine, remember that the cards are listed Alphabetically, not based on how they are rated. So um... I don't really know, what I would rate Strip Mine out of the top-25, if I had to rate it. Do you have any idea's what I could take off the list in favor of Beacon of Tomorrow's (though honestly I think Time Stretch is the better card in this case).
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I like Return to Dust in white. You're almost always going to have two worthwhile (or must-answer) targets in this format. Plus it deals with Darksteel Colossus and Darksteel Forge. It could take Elspeth, Knight Errant's spot. Ajani's -1 ability gets better the more players you have in the game, while her +1 abilities get less and less relevant.
In green there's Skyshroud Claim and Woodfall Primus. Claim could take Explosive Vegetation's slot; it puts the lands in untapped and it can search up dual lands or shocklands. Primus could replace Lifegift or Rude Awakening. I don't have much experience with those, but it seems like there are better ways to gain life, untap lands, or make lands into guys. And for lands, Mouth of Ronom should replace Faerie Conclave. Four colorless uncounterable damage is exactly what you need sometimes when a tricky general is about to wreck the table. |
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Resident Planeswalker
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Blue card drawing that nets you more cards than you started with: Concentrate Tidings Opportunity are all staples in my EDH blue decks... Ponder, storm, etc. aren't good enough. I'd have to say that Impulse isn't good enough either. For artifacts I was VERY surprised not to see Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo! All my EDH decks run Lotus and 3/4 run Dynamo. Not only do they accelerate +3 mana, but they can be tapped the turn they come into play which means an extra drop OR counter-magic mana available.
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I agree on Thran Dynamo>Darksteel Ingot. I'm really a fan of getting more out of your card like Rampant Growth sucks whereas Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are desired. If you think about it, Ingot is basically an Untamed Wilds without the shuffling effect (okay, so it produces any color mana and some 5 color decks that's relevant, but really if you're running 3 or less colors, I rarely have color mana issues). +3 mana and still being able to do something the turn you play it is SO good.
Temple of the False god>Ancient Tomb. Basically it does the same thing, but you have to wait a couple turns. Maybe I'm missing something, and I know you start at 40 life, but I use up my mana almost every turn in EDH so I'm not impressed with Tomb (2 damage a turn is a lot). I have not problem with City of Brass or Grand Coliseum in my Horde of Notions deck, but otherwise I don't run pain lands. Extraplanar Lens and Thousand Year Elixir can go... maybe even Vedalken Shackles. I think Memnarch is a million times better than Shackles (not needing islands, keeping it even if the stealing permenant leaves play). I played Memnarch in Sharuum and Shackles in Llawan... it's really dependent on the number of islands... then again, I don't run dual lands (I'm more of a budget player). Wait a second, did Mindslaver get banned? I don't see it on the list! Has anyone else had success with Erratic Portal? I started using it in my Llawan deck, but noticed how awesome it is to pay to return a CITP effect creature to your hand (especialy with Evoke!). Getting back to my point about Lens... you have Mirari's Wake which makes sense because it's clearly better than Lens. But you don't have Mana Reflection in the green section and that's clearly better than Lens (because you don't have to be playing a mono-colored deck, it counts ALL your lands, doesn't RFG when it CITP, and DOUBLES artifact mana as well-Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo, even the signets are awesome). I think Lens is too restrictive, just like DMcD said about T-YE.Just asking a question to everyone: How do you feel about Tidespout Tyrant and Arcanis the Omnipotent? Both have just won me games (usually Tyrant needs to live one turn to have a huge impact on a game and Arcanis is going to draw you cards at some point due to it's bouncing and Ancestral Recall for is pretty good, plus it's NUTZ with Lightning Greaves). Just wondering if anyone else has experienced good times with those two cards.Card tag fix: Glen Elandra Archmage should be Glen Elendra Archmage I'll think more later, but that's enough for now.
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Side note, I put Explosive Vegation back on the list in place of Skyshroud Claim due to the fact that Explosive Vegetation searches ANY two basic lands, where as Skyshroud Claim only searches for two Forests.
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Anyone like Vengeful Rebirth? I'm play testing it in Uril and it's been amazing. Usually it hits for at least 6... but I got back a Woodfall Primus after it destroyed two of their permenants and started the shennanigans again... with EIGHT damage to boot! I think the cost is justified... what do you think?
I think Mana Reflection should be in... maybe over Wild Pair which is kind of limited since there's 1 of each spell and it's good in certain decks (slivers for example), but Mana Reflection is good in most to every green deck. More fixes: Skull Clamp to Skullclamp Kikki Jikki, Mirror Breaker to Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker Priveleged Position to Privileged Position Mirrari's Wake to Mirari's Wake Crime/Punishment to Crime (Crime/Punishment) Okay, I'm really done for the night this time. Thanks for all your hard work updating! Trying out tags...
So, both of them worked (either with the old link or with just the single card name). Try it out with just one of the cards names. Note Punishment doesn't work (probably because it's the second card or the card on the "right" or whatever). Just use the first card for those and then you can put the second name in parenthesis.
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Anyways it isn't a problem...
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