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Old 06-29-2009, 03:28 PM   #1
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Default Tiago Chan's invitational card

This from Mark Rosewater on Twitter

maro254@mtgaaron Tiago's card was in ZEN but it didn't work out. He's given us a new card which is going into Lights. I feel bad about the delay.

Has anyone heard what the new card may be?
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What was his original card?
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Wait, I thought that Ranger of Eos is the last invitational card. Glad I was wrong. Though we can't think of anything about it right now.
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I thought Zendikar was Lights and then Camera, Action.
What is Zendikar's code name?
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What is Zendikar's code name?
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My god, someone told me it turned into Traumatic Visions and I was pissed for two minutes.

Thankfully, it's not just Traumatic Visions 2.0 anymore, apparently. Looking forward to it.
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I thought Zendikar was Lights and then Camera, Action.
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Tiago Chan's original card was, if I'm not mistaken, a nonbasic land called Denying Channel, which looked something like this:

Denying Channel
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(Comes into play tapped?)
T: Add U to your mana pool.
1UU, Discard ~: Counter target spell.


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Denying Channel
Land
T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
2UU, Discard Denying Channel: Counter target spell.
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Denying Channel
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2UU, Discard Denying Channel: Counter target spell.

BUT, as we know, things don't always work out that way.
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So it's getting delayed a year?

That seems like a long time.
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So it's getting delayed a year?

That seems like a long time.
Indeed. This does, however, give us a hint about Zendikar block, since this card seems to outright go against the design of that entire block.
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Denying Channel
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T: Add to your mana pool.
2UU, Discard Denying Channel: Counter target spell.

BUT, as we know, things don't always work out that way.
Also known as the most broken control player's card evar. Yes, please, let me hit my land drops AND make sure I always have a counterspell.

The idea was horrible from the get-go, and I was always astounded that Tiago couldn't see how broken it was.

I would move this to speculation. There is no more info other than it's coming in Lights.
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Denying Channel
Land
T: Add to your mana pool.
2UU, Discard Denying Channel: Counter target spell.

BUT, as we know, things don't always work out that way.
That sucks. That's a pretty good concept for a card.

EDIT: Upon further contemplation, Evan's right. the only way that could be not-format-ruining would be to make it have a steeper cost (discarding more cards, saccing a land, higher mana cost, etc.)

Since we all know R&D's recent anti-control shenanigans they probably made him change it to something like

Timmy's Lair
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CIPT
T: Addg to your mana pool.
2gg, T: The owner of target blue instant loses the match.

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Also known as the most broken control player's card evar. Yes, please, let me hit my land drops AND make sure I always have a counterspell.

The idea was horrible from the get-go, and I was always astounded that Tiago couldn't see how broken it was.

I would move this to speculation. There is no more info other than it's coming in Lights.
add to the fact its also uncounterable on its own sans stifle like effects.
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Also known as the most broken control player's card evar. Yes, please, let me hit my land drops AND make sure I always have a counterspell.

The idea was horrible from the get-go, and I was always astounded that Tiago couldn't see how broken it was.
Stick CIPT on it, scale it to 2UUU or 3UU, and I'd say it's probably printable with the current state of T2. That just me?
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Indeed. This does, however, give us a hint about Zendikar block, since this card seems to outright go against the design of that entire block.
"It didn't work out" can mean a lot of things. I think the more likely reason was that the card was too powerful and couldn't be toned down without making it suck horribly. By the time they realized this and Tiago submitted a new idea, it could have been too late for its inclusion in ZEN.
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