Ancestral Vision
Ponder
Preordain
Ancestral Recall
Brainstorm
Force Spike
Counterspell
Mana Leak
Into the Roil
Miscalculation
Remand
Mana Drain
Time Walk
Cyclonic Rift
Memory Lapse
Arcane Denial
Vedalken Shackles
Thirst for Knowledge
Tinker
Forbid
Timetwister
Frantic Search
Gifts Ungiven
Cryptic Command
Rite of Replication
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Control Magic
Dismiss
Fact or Fiction
Jace Architecht of Thought
Deep Analysis
Gifts Given
Desertion
Force of Will
Treachery
Bribery
Tezzeret the Seeker
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
Stolen Identity
Time Spiral
Upheaval
Confiscate
Mind's Desire
Spelljack
Oracle of Mul-Daya
Thrun, the Last Troll
Chameleon Colossus
Wickerbough Elder
Polukranos, World Eater
Obstinate Baloth
Deathbridge Goliath
Master of the Wild Hunt
Strip Mine
Mishra's Factory
Maze of Ith
Tolarian Academy
Mutavault
Library of Alexandria
Wasteland
City of Brass
Rishadan Port
Mishra's Workshop
Mox Diamond
5 Moxen
Black Lotus
Everflowing Chalice
Mana Crypt
Astral Cornucopia
Mana Vault
Skullclamp
Sol Ring
Bonesplitter
Cursed Scroll
Umezawa's Jitte
Prismatic Lens
Mind Stone
Scroll Rack
Grim Monolith
Ankh of Mishra
Winter Orb
Coldsteel Heart
Izzet Signet
Azorious Signet
Dimir Signet
Simic Signet
Orzhov Signet
5 Talismans
Darksteel Ingot
Coalition Relic
Sword of Feast and Famine
Sword of Body and Mind
Mimic Vat
Crystal Shard
Sword of Fire and Ice
Sword of Light and Shadow
Tangle Wire
Sword of War and Peace
Basalt Monolith
Staff of Domination
Pristine Talisman
WU
Lavinia of the Tenth
Supreme Authority
Sphinx's Revelation
Detention Sphere
Geist of Saint Traft UB
Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Baleful Strix
Havengul Lich
Far/Away
Ashiok Night Weaver BR
Olivia Voldaren
Murderous Redcap
Dreadbore
Rackdos Cackler
Falkenrath Aristocrat RG
Bloodbraid Elf
Huntmaster of the Fells
Kessig Wolf Run
Sarkhan Vol
Ghor-Clan Ravager
Xenagos the Reveler GW
Voice of Resurgance
Mirari's Wake
Kitchen Finks
Qasali Pridemage
Selesnya Charm
Dryad Militant WB
Obzedat Ghost Council
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Lingering Souls
Vindicate UR
Electrolyze
Izzet Charm
Fire/Ice
Ral Zarek
Turn/Burn
Steam Augury BG
Putrefy
Lotleth Troll
Dred Mangle
Maelstrom Pulse
Pernicious Deed
Deathrite Shaman
Vraska
Deadbridge Chant
Down/Dirty RW
Ajani Vengeant
Lightning Helix
Boros Charm
Figure of Destiny
Slayer's Stronghold
Boros Reckoner
Assemble the Legion
Ana and Cymede GU
Kiora's Follower
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Plasma Capture
Progenitor Mimic
Mystic Snake
Edric, Spymaster of Tryst
Trygon Predator
Alchemist's Refuge
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Maelstrom Wanderer
Want List:
Original List:
Artifacts (52/60):
Relic of Progenitus
Epochrasite
Tetravus
Memnarch
Akroma's Memorial
Phyrexian War Beast (1)
Rocket Launcher
Darksteel Colossus
Juggernaut
Platinum Angel
Chromatic Star
Stuffy Doll
Foriysian Totem
Sigil of Distinction
Gauntlet of Power
Masticore
Icy Manipulator
Mindless Automaton
Ticking Gnomes
Lotus Bloom
Dragon Blood
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII
Dragon Blood
Armillary Sphere
Diviner's Wand
Quietus Spike
Fellwar Stone
Darksteel Gargoyle
Helm of Awakening
Clockwork Hydra
Clockwork Beast
Bosh, Iron Golem
Duplicant
Coalition Relic
Triskelavus
Prismatic Lens
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Totem
Phyrexian Grimoire
Triskelion
Moonglove Extract
Muse Vessel
Puppet Strings
Coldsteel Heart
Lotus Petal
Grinning Totem
Howling Mine
Fireshrieker
Empyrial Plate
Dolmen Gate
Darksteel Ingot
Jayemdae Tome
Black (47/50):
Avatar of Woe
Sengir Nosferatu
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Expunge
Sengir Vampire
Decree of Pain
Hasran Ogress (1)
Pestilence
Exhume
Violet Pall
Hypnotic Specter
Thoughtseize
Victimize
Ashes to Ashes
Dark Ritual
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Soul Feast
Incremental Blight
Mind Shatter
Dread
Brainspoil
Sorceress Queen
Lim-Dul the Necromancer
Vile Requiem
Havoc Demon
Shriekmaw
Warren Pilferers
Enslave
Reanimate
Mirri the Cursed
Marsh Flitter
Sudden Spoiling
Midnight Banshee
Oona's Prowler
Chill to the Bone
Soul Collector
Plague Sliver
Order of the Ebon Hand (1)
Demonic Tutor
Terror
Reiver Demon
Tendrils of Agony
Minions' Murmurs
Vein Drinker
Faceless Butcher
Liliana Vess
Doom Blade
Green(48/50):
Quirion Elves
Rhox
Wren's Run Packmaster
Wren's Run Vanquisher
Brooding Saurian
Primal Command
Regrowth
Verdant Embrace
Priest of Titania
Llanowar Elves
Cockatrice
Gaea's Anthem
Wild Nacatl
Harmonize
Tarmogoyf
Spectral Force
Sprout Swarm
Llanowar Mentor
Elvish Harbinger
Seedborn Muse
Imperious Perfect
Feral Hydra
Call of the Herd
Birds of Paradise
Wurmcalling
Bloom Tender
Allosaurus Rider
Hurricane
Voice of the Woods
Chameleon Colossus
Briarhorn
Fertile Ground
Giant Growth
Rancor
Immaculate Magistrate
Wickerbough Elder
Nacatl War-Pride
Epic Proportions
Desert Twister
Utopia Vow
Cream of the Crop
Cliffrunner Behemoth
Stonewood Invocation
Sylvan Scrying
Wolf-Skull Shaman
Garruk Wildspeaker
Mycoloth
Thelonite Hermit
Gold (74/60 2 color cards plus roughly 20 3+ color cards):
Deathbringer Thoctar
Murderous Redcap
Sealed Fate
Elemental Augury
Deathbringer Liege
Golgari Rotwurm
Night/Day
Overbeing of Myth
Coiling Oracle
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Oros, the Avenger
Izzet Chronarch
Kitchen Finks
Kulrath Knight
Sturdy Hatchling
Juniper Order Ranger
Ith, High Arcanist
Kaervek the Merciless
Mystic Snake
Intet, the Dreamer
Lim-Dul's Vault
Numot, the Devastator
Mirari's Wake
Nemesis of Reason
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Stillmoon Cavalier
Branching Bolt
Tidehollow Sculler
Valleymaker
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Teneb, the Harvester
Castigate
Cankerous Thirst
Wort, the Raidmother
Bull Cerodon
Wall of Denial
Quicksilver Dagger
Void
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Selesnya Evangel
Selesnya Guildmage
Stormbind
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Rosheen Meanderer
Ajani Vengeant
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sabertooth Nishoba
Spitemare
Silkbind Faerie
Skeleton Ship
Sky Hussar
Prophetic Bolt
Snakeform
Unmake
Consume Strength
Necrogenesis
Belligerent Hatchling
Bloodbraid Elf
Slave of Bolas
Vorosh, the Hunter
Swans of Bryn Argoll
Figure of Destiny
Broodmate Dragon
Noxious Hatchling
Lorescale Coatl
Kiss of the Amesha
Call the Skybreaker
Terminate
Sphinx Summoner
Sol'kanar the Swamp King
Land (24/??):
Vivid Crag
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Urza's Factory
Academy Ruins
Terramorphic Expanse
Strip Mine (2)
Temple of the False God
Seaside Citadel
Mishra's Factory
City of Brass
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Maze of Ith
Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Mutavault
Crumbling Necropolis
Mirrodin's Core
Vivid Grove
Vesuva
Vivid Creek
Pendelhaven
Savage Lands
Stalking Stones
Red(49/50):
Riddle of Lightning
Chandra Nalaar
Reiterate
Pyrokinesis
Reckless Abandon
Lightning Bolt
Goblin Assault
Rathi Dragon
Reckless Wurm
Flame Jab
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Mogg Fanatic
Fortune Thief
Flameblast Dragon
Titan's Revenge
Furystoke Giant
Greater Gargadon
Spitebellows
Disintegrate
Caldera Hellion
Mana Flare
Volcanic Fallout
Cinder Seer
Searing Wind
Volcano Hellion
Wildfire
Fireball
Volcano Hellion
Scourge of Kher Ridges
Jokulhaups
Blood Knight
Caldera Hellion
Taurean Mauler
Dragon Whelp
Spikeshot Goblin
Word of Seizing
Fissure
Sulfur Elemental
Granite Gargoyle
Wheel of Fate
Lightning Axe
Gathan Raiders
Magus of the Scroll
Hostility
Flame Javelin
Earthquake
Rivals' Duel
Magus of the Arena
Fiery Temper
Blue(47/50):
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mind Spring
Think Twice
Psionic Blast
Fathom Trawl
Counterspell
Dream Cache
Riftwing Cloudskate
Kederekt Leviathan
Precognition
Sharding Sphinx
Dreamscape Artist
Turnabout
Dissipate
Force of Will
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Cryptic Command
Abduction
Jace Beleren
Fathom Seer
Sower of Temptation
Thirst for Knowledge
Ancestral Vision
Erratic Mutation
Brainstorm
Spiketail Drakeling
Magus of the Jar
Confiscate
Control Magic
Second Wind
Leech Bonder
Palinchron
Ray of Command
Shaper Parasite
Draining Whelk
Clone
Mulldrifter
Mahamoti Djinn
Opportunity
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Aeon Chronicler
Foresee
AEthersnipe
Prodigal Sorcerer
Ixidron
Boomerang
Djinn of Wishes
White(50/50):
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Calciderm
White Knight
Mirror Entity
Pristine Angel
Ballynock Trapper
Soltari Monk
Battlegrace Angel
Knight of Meadowgrain
Goldmeadow Harrier
Galepowder Mage
Judge Unworthy
Savannah Lions
Ranger of Eos
Celestial Crusader
Disenchant
Magus of the Disk
Ronom Unicorn
Sunlance
Resurrection
Pacifism
Cloudgoat Ranger
Benalish Commander
Soltari Priest
Swords to Plowshares
Knight of Meadowgrain
Sensei Golden-Tail
Sacred Mesa
Knight of the White Orchid
Shield Dancer
Serra Angel
Orim, Samite Healer
Serra Avenger
Commander Eesha
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Glorious Anthem
Humility
Armageddon
Test of Faith
Ajani Goldmane
Purity
Knight of Dawn
Recumbent Bliss
Wrath of God
Path to Exile
Spirit en-Kor
Elite Vanguard
Harm's Way
Additons: 7/17 Add Doom Blade, Djinn of Wishes, Elite Vanguard, Harm's Way, Figure of Destiny
Removals: Konda, Kinsbaile Cavalier, Waves of Agression
My first impression is that there's a lot of fat to be trimmed here.
Some of the cards are less than optimum, but we can leave those alone for now. The cards I'll make not of here are ones that have probably no business in any cube.
By removing the following cards for (really any) cards in someone else's cube on this thread, you can dramatically increase the power-level of your cube.
Thanks for the suggestions. I know it would be a lot of work, but can you explain to me why the cards you guys suggested aren't very good? Some of the cards I can see (Ex: Clockwork Beast, Endrek Sahr), some I can kind of understand but don't know what to replace them with (Jayemdae tome as repeatable artifact card draw, or Cockatrice as green flying defense), some are critical for my themes (Ex: The elves), some are underpowered but seem to be good sideboard cards (Ex: brooding saurian) and some I just think are good (EX: Enslave, Muse Vessel). So it would be really helpful to me if you could explain why specifically the cards that you've mentioned aren't good. And seeing that there are so many cards in my pool that need replacing help coming up with a cheap buy list would also be appreciated. At this point almost all of the cards in my cube are cards acquired "naturally", through drafting or cards I had kicking around from when I played casually back in the day. I have a very small budget for making improvements so focused suggestions of where to spend my money would be great as well. Thanks again.
I for one think that Endrek Sahr and Brooding Saurian are ok. They aren't great, but ok.
The Endrek i have in my cube, and i don't think i have seen a person untap with him and lose.
Akroma's memorial and Darksteel Gargoyle I will move to the replace pile, and the rest of them are admittedly overcosted, but don't know what to replace them with. Enslave just seems really good. What cards can give me the same kind of power in control mirrors as Muse Vessel? Riddle I will try to cut if I can find replacements (though at sadness to myself as I love it). Moonglove extract is to give every color an access to some direct damage spells. Is there better artifact direct damage out there? (I also have an aeleopile if that's better.) Is brainspoil's transmute and violet pall's extra abilities not really worth it? What black removal should I try to replace them with? And for chill to the bone, isn't the ability to destroy anything worth it. I don't have any snow creatures in my cube, so the lack of targeting restrictions makes it seem worth the extra cost.
I for one think that Endrek Sahr and Brooding Saurian are ok. They aren't great, but ok.
The Endrek i have in my cube, and i don't think i have seen a person untap with him and lose.
Brooding Saurian I have no plans on cutting. He serves a very specific function (shutting down blue steal happy decks). It's the same as putting specific card type removal in the cube, or relic of prog, or whatever. There are always going to be late picks, and I agree with whoever said it that cards that are generally poor, but occasionally really good, are good cards to have at the end of packs.
Endrek Sahr, is ok, and a bit scary but I think they might be right about him not being that good. If I can find replacement cards I will give him the cut.
I will vouch for Enslave. We've had it in our cube since the early days and it's always performed well. It's slightly overpriced, maybe, but an effect like that in black is rare. It's won quite a few games for us since it's inclusion. I can't really see it coming out any time soon.
I do agree with the rest of the cards though. There are much better options for those slots. kcolloran, for ideas on what to put in over the suggested cards, just check out other cubes on these forums and see what they're running that you're not.
Here's the updated lists. Added FtV:Exiled, Some cards picked up at Japanese nats and some draft winnings.
Black (50/50):
Avatar of Woe
Sengir Nosferatu
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Expunge
Sengir Vampire
Decree of Pain
Hasran Ogress (1)
Pestilence
Exhume
Violet Pall
Hypnotic Specter
Thoughtseize
Victimize
Ashes to Ashes
Dark Ritual
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Soul Feast
Incremental Blight
Mind Shatter
Dread
Brainspoil
Sorceress Queen
Lim-Dul the Necromancer
Vile Requiem
Havoc Demon
Shriekmaw
Warren Pilferers
Enslave
Reanimate
Mirri the Cursed
Marsh Flitter
Sudden Spoiling
Midnight Banshee
Oona's Prowler
Chill to the Bone
Soul Collector
Plague Sliver
Order of the Ebon Hand (1)
Demonic Tutor
Terror
Reiver Demon
Tendrils of Agony
Minions' Murmurs
Vein Drinker
Faceless Butcher
Liliana Vess
Doom Blade
Innocent Blood
Cemetery Reaper
Necropotence
Blue(47/50):
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mind Spring
Think Twice
Psionic Blast
Riptide Survivor
Counterspell
Dream Cache
Riftwing Cloudskate
Kederekt Leviathan
Precognition
Sharding Sphinx
Dreamscape Artist
Turnabout
Dissipate
Force of Will
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Cryptic Command
Callous Opressor
Jace Beleren
Fathom Seer
Sower of Temptation
Thirst for Knowledge
Ancestral Vision
Body Double
Brainstorm
Compulsive Research
Magus of the Jar
Confiscate
Control Magic
Second Wind
Leech Bonder
Palinchron
Tinker
Shaper Parasite
Draining Whelk
Clone
Mulldrifter
Mahamoti Djinn
Opportunity
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Aeon Chronicler
Soramaro, First to Dream
AEthersnipe
Prodigal Sorcerer
Ixidron
Repeal
Djinn of Wishes
Magus of the Future
Serendib Efreet
Gifts Ungiven
Green(50/50):
Quirion Elves
Rhox
Wren's Run Packmaster
Wren's Run Vanquisher
Brooding Saurian
Primal Command
Regrowth
Verdant Embrace
Priest of Titania
Llanowar Elves
Gaea's Anthem
Wild Nacatl
Harmonize
Tarmogoyf
Spectral Force
Sprout Swarm
Llanowar Mentor
Elvish Harbinger
Seedborn Muse
Imperious Perfect
Feral Hydra
Call of the Herd
Birds of Paradise
Wurmcalling
Bloom Tender
Allosaurus Rider
Hurricane
Voice of the Woods
Chameleon Colossus
Briarhorn
Fertile Ground
Giant Growth
Rancor
Immaculate Magistrate
Wickerbough Elder
Nacatl War-Pride
Epic Proportions
Desert Twister
Utopia Vow
Cream of the Crop
Overrun
Stonewood Invocation
Sylvan Scrying
Wolf-Skull Shaman
Garruk Wildspeaker
Mycoloth
Thelonite Hermit
Berserk
Channel
Citanul Heirophants
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Calciderm
Faith's Fetters
Mirror Entity
Pristine Angel
Ballynock Trapper
Soltari Monk
Battlegrace Angel
Knight of Meadowgrain
Goldmeadow Harrier
Galepowder Mage
Judge Unworthy
Savannah Lions
Ranger of Eos
Celestial Crusader
Disenchant
Magus of the Disk
Ronom Unicorn
Balance
Resurrection
Pacifism
Cloudgoat Ranger
Benalish Commander
Soltari Priest
Swords to Plowshares
Knight of Meadowgrain
Sensei Golden-Tail
Sacred Mesa
Knight of the White Orchid
Shield Dancer
Serra Angel
Orim, Samite Healer
Baneslayer Angel
Commander Eesha
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Glorious Anthem
Humility
Armageddon
Test of Faith
Ajani Goldmane
Purity
Knight of Dawn
Recumbent Bliss
Wrath of God
Path to Exile
Spirit en-Kor
Elite Vanguard
Harm's Way
Artifacts (58/60):
Relic of Progenitus
Epochrasite
Tetravus
Memnarch
Akroma's Memorial
Phyrexian War Beast (1)
Rocket Launcher
Darksteel Colossus
Juggernaut
Platinum Angel
Chromatic Star
Stuffy Doll
Foriysian Totem
Sigil of Distinction
Gauntlet of Power
Masticore
Icy Manipulator
Mindless Automaton
Ticking Gnomes
Lotus Bloom
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII
Dragon Blood
Armillary Sphere
Diviner's Wand
Quietus Spike
Fellwar Stone
Darksteel Gargoyle
Helm of Awakening
Clockwork Hydra
Clockwork Beast
Bosh, Iron Golem
Duplicant
Coalition Relic
Triskelavus
Prismatic Lens
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Totem
Phyrexian Grimoire
Triskelion
Moonglove Extract
Muse Vessel
Puppet Strings (missing)
Coldsteel Heart
Lotus Petal
Grinning Totem
Howling Mine
Fireshrieker
Empyrial Plate
Dolmen Gate
Darksteel Ingot
Jayemdae Tome (missing)
Skullclamp
Sensei's Diving Top
Lightning Greaves
Predator Flagship
Spectral Searchlight
Magebane Armor
Leonin Bola
Land (37/??):
Vivid Crag
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Urza's Factory
Academy Ruins
Terramorphic Expanse
Strip Mine (2)
Temple of the False God
Seaside Citadel
Mishra's Factory
City of Brass
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Maze of Ith
Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Mutavault
Crumbling Necropolis
Mirrodin's Core
Vivid Grove
Vesuva
Vivid Creek
Pendelhaven
Savage Lands
Stalking Stones
Tolarian Academy
10 Karoos
Miren the Moaning Well
Exotic Orchard
Gold (73/60 2 color cards plus roughly 20 3+ color cards):
Deathbringer Thoctar
Murderous Redcap
Sealed Fate
Elemental Augury
Deathbringer Liege
Golgari Guildmage
Mortify
Overbeing of Myth
Coiling Oracle
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Oros, the Avenger
Izzet Chronarch
Kitchen Finks
Kulrath Knight
Sturdy Hatchling
Juniper Order Ranger
Ith, High Arcanist
Kaervek the Merciless
Mystic Snake
Intet, the Dreamer
Lim-Dul's Vault
Numot, the Devastator
Mirari's Wake
Nemesis of Reason
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Stillmoon Cavalier
Savage Twister
Tidehollow Sculler
Apocalypse Hydra
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Teneb, the Harvester
Castigate
Cankerous Thirst
Wort, the Raidmother
Bull Cerodon
Wall of Denial
Quicksilver Dagger
Void
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Behemoth Sledge
Selesnya Guildmage
Stormbind
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Vengeful Rebirth
Ajani Vengeant
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sabertooth Nishoba
Spitemare
Silkbind Faerie
Skeleton Ship
Sky Hussar
Prophetic Bolt
Snakeform
Unmake
Consume Strength
Necrogenesis
Belligerent Hatchling
Bloodbraid Elf
Slave of Bolas
Vorosh, the Hunter
Swans of Bryn Argoll
Figure of Destiny
Broodmate Dragon
Putrefy
Lorescale Coatl
Kiss of the Amesha
Call the Skybreaker
Terminate
Dimir Guildmage
Sol'kanar the Swamp King
Here's the updated lists. Added FtV:Exiled, Some cards picked up at Japanese nats and some draft winnings.
Black (50/50):
Avatar of Woe
Sengir Nosferatu
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Expunge
Sengir Vampire
Decree of Pain
Hasran Ogress (1)
Pestilence
Exhume
Violet Pall
Hypnotic Specter
Thoughtseize
Victimize
Ashes to Ashes
Dark Ritual
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Phyrexian Arena
Incremental Blight
Mind Shatter
Dread
Brainspoil
Sorceress Queen
Beacon of Unrest
Vile Requiem
Havoc Demon
Shriekmaw
Warren Pilferers
Enslave
Reanimate
Mirri the Cursed
Marsh Flitter
Sudden Spoiling
Midnight Banshee
Oona's Prowler
Chill to the Bone
Soul Collector
Plague Sliver
Order of the Ebon Hand (1)
Demonic Tutor
Terror
Grave Pact
Tendrils of Agony
Minions' Murmurs
Vein Drinker
Faceless Butcher
Liliana Vess
Doom Blade
Innocent Blood
Cemetery Reaper
Necropotence
Blue(50/50):
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mind Spring
Think Twice
Psionic Blast
Riptide Survivor
Counterspell
Dream Cache
Riftwing Cloudskate
Kederekt Leviathan
Precognition
Sharding Sphinx
Dreamscape Artist
Turnabout
Dissipate
Force of Will
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Cryptic Command
Callous Opressor
Jace Beleren
Fathom Seer
Sower of Temptation
Thirst for Knowledge
Ancestral Vision
Body Double
Brainstorm
Compulsive Research
Magus of the Jar
Confiscate
Control Magic
Second Wind
Leech Bonder
Palinchron
Tinker
Shaper Parasite
Draining Whelk
Clone
Mulldrifter
Mahamoti Djinn
Opportunity
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Aeon Chronicler
Soramaro, First to Dream
AEthersnipe
Prodigal Sorcerer
Ixidron
Repeal
Djinn of Wishes
Magus of the Future
Serendib Efreet
Gifts Ungiven
Green(50/50):
Quirion Elves
Forgotten Ancient
Wren's Run Packmaster
Wren's Run Vanquisher
Brooding Saurian
Primal Command
Regrowth
Verdant Embrace
Priest of Titania
Llanowar Elves
Gaea's Anthem
Wild Nacatl
Harmonize
Tarmogoyf
Spectral Force
Sprout Swarm
Llanowar Mentor
Elvish Harbinger
Seedborn Muse
Imperious Perfect
Feral Hydra
Call of the Herd
Birds of Paradise
Wurmcalling
Bloom Tender
Allosaurus Rider
Hurricane
Voice of the Woods
Chameleon Colossus
Briarhorn
Fertile Ground
Giant Growth
Rancor
Immaculate Magistrate
Wickerbough Elder
Nacatl War-Pride
Epic Proportions
Desert Twister
Utopia Vow
Cream of the Crop
Overrun
Stonewood Invocation
Sylvan Scrying
Wolf-Skull Shaman
Garruk Wildspeaker
Mycoloth
Thelonite Hermit
Berserk
Channel
Citanul Heirophants
Red(50/50):
Hanabi Blast
Chandra Nalaar
Reiterate
Pyrokinesis
Shivan Hellkite
Lightning Bolt
Goblin Assault
Rathi Dragon
Reckless Wurm
Flame Jab
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Fortune Thief
Flameblast Dragon
Titan's Revenge
Furystoke Giant
Greater Gargadon
Spitebellows
Disintegrate
Caldera Hellion
Mana Flare
Volcanic Fallout
Flowstone Slide
Wildfire (missing)
Fireball
Meltdown
Scourge of Kher Ridges
Jokulhaups
Blood Knight
Taurean Mauler
Dragon Whelp
Galvanic Arc
Word of Seizing
Fissure
Sulfur Elemental
Granite Gargoyle
Wheel of Fate
Lightning Axe
Gathan Raiders
Magus of the Scroll
Jiwari Flame Asunder
Flame Javelin
Earthquake
Rivals' Duel
Magus of the Arena
Fiery Temper
Siege-gang Commander
Kumano, Master Yamabushi
Flametongue Kavu,
Furnace of Rath,
Rolling Thunder
White(50/50):
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Calciderm
Faith's Fetters
Mirror Entity
Pristine Angel
Ballynock Trapper
Soltari Monk
Battlegrace Angel
Knight of Meadowgrain
Goldmeadow Harrier
Galepowder Mage
Judge Unworthy
Akroma's Vengeance
Ranger of Eos
Celestial Crusader
Disenchant
Magus of the Disk
Ronom Unicorn
Balance
Resurrection
Pacifism
Cloudgoat Ranger
Benalish Commander
Soltari Priest
Swords to Plowshares
Knight of Meadowgrain
Sensei Golden-Tail
Sacred Mesa
Knight of the White Orchid
Shield Dancer
Serra Angel
Orim, Samite Healer
Baneslayer Angel
Commander Eesha
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Glorious Anthem
Orim's Thunder
Armageddon
Test of Faith
Ajani Goldmane
Purity
Knight of Dawn
Recumbent Bliss
Wrath of God
Path to Exile
Spirit en-Kor
Elite Vanguard
Harm's Way
Artifacts (58/60):
Relic of Progenitus
Epochrasite
Tetravus
Memnarch
Akroma's Memorial
Phyrexian War Beast (1)
Rocket Launcher
Darksteel Colossus
Juggernaut
Platinum Angel
Chromatic Star
Stuffy Doll
Foriysian Totem
Sigil of Distinction
Gauntlet of Power
Masticore
Icy Manipulator
Mindless Automaton
Ticking Gnomes
Lotus Bloom
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII
Dragon Blood
Armillary Sphere
Diviner's Wand
Quietus Spike
Fellwar Stone
Darksteel Gargoyle
Helm of Awakening
Clockwork Hydra
Clockwork Beast
Bosh, Iron Golem
Duplicant
Coalition Relic
Triskelavus
Prismatic Lens
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Totem
Phyrexian Grimoire
Triskelion
Moonglove Extract
Muse Vessel
Puppet Strings (missing)
Coldsteel Heart
Lotus Petal
Grinning Totem
Howling Mine
Fireshrieker
Empyrial Plate
Dolmen Gate
Darksteel Ingot
Jayemdae Tome (missing)
Skullclamp
Sensei's Diving Top
Lightning Greaves
Predator Flagship
Spectral Searchlight
Magebane Armor
Leonin Bola
Land (37/??):
Vivid Crag
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Urza's Factory
Academy Ruins
Terramorphic Expanse
Strip Mine (2)
Temple of the False God
Seaside Citadel
Mishra's Factory
City of Brass
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Maze of Ith
Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Mutavault
Crumbling Necropolis
Mirrodin's Core
Vivid Grove
Vesuva
Vivid Creek
Pendelhaven
Savage Lands
Stalking Stones
Tolarian Academy
10 Karoos
Miren the Moaning Well
Exotic Orchard
Gold (73/60 2 color cards plus roughly 20 3+ color cards):
Deathbringer Thoctar
Murderous Redcap
Sealed Fate
Elemental Augury
Deathbringer Liege
Golgari Guildmage
Mortify
Overbeing of Myth
Coiling Oracle
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Oros, the Avenger
Izzet Chronarch
Kitchen Finks
Kulrath Knight
Sturdy Hatchling
Juniper Order Ranger
Ith, High Arcanist
Kaervek the Merciless
Mystic Snake
Intet, the Dreamer
Lim-Dul's Vault
Numot, the Devastator
Mirari's Wake
Nemesis of Reason
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Stillmoon Cavalier
Savage Twister
Tidehollow Sculler
Apocalypse Hydra
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Teneb, the Harvester
Castigate
Cankerous Thirst
Wort, the Raidmother
Lightning Helix
Wall of Denial
Quicksilver Dagger
Void
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Behemoth Sledge
Selesnya Guildmage
Fires of Yavimaya
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Vengeful Rebirth
Ajani Vengeant
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sabertooth Nishoba
Spitemare
Silkbind Faerie
Skeleton Ship
Sky Hussar
Prophetic Bolt
Snakeform
Unmake
Consume Strength
Necrogenesis
Balefire Liege
Bloodbraid Elf
Slave of Bolas
Vorosh, the Hunter
Swans of Bryn Argoll
Figure of Destiny
Broodmate Dragon
Putrefy
Lorescale Coatl
Kiss of the Amesha
Call the Skybreaker
Terminate
Dimir Guildmage
Sol'kanar the Swamp King
Additions: Grave Pact, Beacon of Unrest, Phyrexian Arena, Flametongue Kavu, Furnace of Rath, Rolling Thunder, Forgotten Ancient, Akroma's Vengeance, Orim's Thunder, Fires of Yavimaya, Lightning Helix, Balefire Liege
try to always edit your first post (easier to go back to than the Xth post on page X) and wrap lists in spoiler tags
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I suggest to keep lists of your changes as you have done now
You've added some nice cards there, although some of those still didn't make the cut for me you're on the right track there.
I don't like Grave Pact but I can see it being ok.
I don't like Temple of the False God. Not being able to tap for any mana in the first turns is a serious drawback. If you want lands that make 2, search for others, there are some replacements available.
Reiterate was never good, even in my EDH deck it sucked. Wild Ricochet is much better if you want a similar card but I wouldn't run even that.
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try to always edit your first post (easier to go back to than the Xth post on page X) and wrap lists in spoiler tags
[*spoiler]long list of cards[/spoiler*] (remove the *)
White definitely needs 2 2/1s, Savannah Lions is an incredibly efficient creature and a double should always be run. If there was another reprinted Incinerate, I'd run it and I feel the same about the lions.
Thanks for the encouragement. More on the way. Got a fair number of cards that I'm excited about at the prerelease. What commons and uncommons from Zendikar do you think I should be trying to scoop up for the cube?
Additions: Harrow, Vines of Vastwood, Protean Hydra, Oracle of Mul Daya, Rampagin Baloths, Borgardan Hellkite
Subtractions: Verdant Embrace, Allosaurus Rider, Giant Growth, Voice of the Woods, Nacatl War Pride, Granite Gargoyle
Khalni Gem: you get screwed hard when they can destroy it. Armillary Sphere does something similar without the risk of a huge tempo loss. Emeria the Sky Ruin: when was the last time you have drafted mono white control in the cube? Even there it is very slow, especially if you want a few other utility lands. Eternity Vessel: Tapping out for a lifegain card, that has the possibility to do nothing for 2-3 turns doesn't look to tempting.
I am not 100% sure if Conqueror's Pledge will perform well in my cube, but I am giving it a try. Day of Judgment, Captain of the Watch, Savannah Lions are 3 nice cards and there is nothing special about the 4 cuts.
Maybe you should use the [CARD]-tag for your changes, which would make it easier for others to formulate a comment on the cards /update all the changes at once.
Alright I will try to remember to card tag from now on. As for doing all the updates at once, that is of course better, I just was in and out of the house, so split it up.
What do people think of Mold Shambler and Trusty Machete for the cube? What other commons and uncommons from Zendikar are worth a look? Assuming it goes through, I've got an order in for a bunch of cards, so more changes should be on the way.
Yay. My new cards just showed up. Here's the next round of changes:
Additions: Recurring Nightmare, Mind Twist, Desolation Angel, Nezumi Graverobber, Cabal Interrogator, Bone Shredder, Bribery, Desertion, Forbid, Time Spiral, Stroke of Genius, Frantic Search, Treachery, Vesuvan Doppleganger, Caller of the Claw, Plow Under, Starstorm, Illuminate, Kor Skyfishers, Luminarch Ascension, Yosei the Morning Star, Decree of Justice, Solemn Simulacrum, Mindslaver, Helm of Possession, Phyrexian Processor, Mana Vault
Excellent update. Minor nitpick: I'd keep Mirri in and pass on Cabal Interrogator. But aside from that, that update is a huge boost to your cube's powerlevel.
What do you think about the changes in the other three colors and the artifacts? Alas, I doubt many more changes like this will occur. I don't know how many other $50 internet only credit cards I'm going to get.
Fume Spitter
Nezumi Graverobber
Oona's Prowler
Pack Rat
Hypnotic Specter
Vampire Nighthawk
Bone Shredder
Lilliana's Specter
Disciple of Bolas
Abyssal Persecutor
Nekrataal
Skinrender
Bloodline Keeper
Bane of the Living
Bloodgift Demon
Shriekmaw
Puppeteer Clique
Shadowborn Demon
Kokusho, the Evening Star
Grave Titan
Massacre Wurm
Sheoldred, Whispering One
Rune-Scarred Demon
Griselbrand
Tombstalker
Volrath's Stronghold
Thoughtseize
Reanimate
Innocent Blood
Vampiric Tutor
Tragic Slip
Dark Ritual
Imperial Seal
Cabal Therapy
Inquisition of Kozilek
Duress
Animate Dead
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Diabolic Edict
Demonic Tutor
Doom Blade
Go For the Throat
Bitterblossom
Recurring Nightmare
Victimize
Phyrexian Arena
Necromancy
Yawgmoth's Will
Lilliana of the Veil
Dismember (Phyrexian Mana)
Hero's Downfall
Toxic Deluge
Damnation
Barter in Blood
Consuming Vapors
Diabolic Servitude
Makeshift Mannequin
Tendrils of Agony
Whip of Erebos
Living Death
Beacon of Unrest
Sorin Markov
Decree of Pain
Mind Twist
Profane Command
Black Sun's Zenith
Diabolic Revelations
Blue(67):
Phantasmal Image
Snapcaster Mage
Man O-War
Fettergeist
Vendillion Clique
True Name Nemesis
Clone
Sower of Temptation
Phyrexian Metamorph (Phyrexian Mana)
Venser Shaper Servant
Glen Elendra Archmage
Mulldrifter
Prognostic Sphinx
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Draining Whelk
Consecrated Sphinx
Aetherling
Palinchron
Memnarch
Academy Ruins
Shelldock Isle
Ancestral Vision
Ponder
Preordain
Ancestral Recall
Brainstorm
Force Spike
Counterspell
Mana Leak
Into the Roil
Miscalculation
Remand
Mana Drain
Time Walk
Cyclonic Rift
Memory Lapse
Arcane Denial
Vedalken Shackles
Thirst for Knowledge
Tinker
Forbid
Timetwister
Frantic Search
Gifts Ungiven
Cryptic Command
Rite of Replication
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Control Magic
Dismiss
Fact or Fiction
Jace Architecht of Thought
Deep Analysis
Gifts Given
Desertion
Force of Will
Treachery
Bribery
Tezzeret the Seeker
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
Stolen Identity
Time Spiral
Upheaval
Confiscate
Mind's Desire
Spelljack
Repeal
Condescend
Green(67):
Llanowar Elves
Birds of Paradise
Joraga Treespeaker
Noble Heirarch
Arbor Elf
Fyndhorn Elves
Elvish Mystic
Sakura Tribe Elder
Strangleroot Geist
Devoted Druid
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
Tarmogoyf
Wall of Roots
Wall of Blossoms
Lotus Cobra
Fauna Shaman
Scavenging Ooze
Sylvan Caryatid
Yavimaya Elder
Troll Ascetic
Viridian Shaman
Eternal Witness
Uktabi Orangutan
Couser of Kruphix
Oracle of Mul-Daya
Thrun, the Last Troll
Chameleon Colossus
Wickerbough Elder
Polukranos, World Eater
Obstinate Baloth
Deathbridge Goliath
Master of the Wild Hunt
Acidic Slime
Genesis
Indrik Stomphowler
Wolfir Silverheart
Thragtusk
Deranged Hermit
Kalonian Hydra
Primeval Titan
Avenger of Zendikar
Hornet Queen
Krosan Tusker
Craterhoof Behemoth
Terastodon
Woodfall Primus
Treetop Village
Gaea's Cradle
Rancor
Regrowth
Survival of the Fittest
Sylvan Library
Krosan Grip
Cultivate
Beast Within
Kodama's Reach
Heartbeat of Spring
Recollect
Awakening Zone
Garruk Wildspeaker
Garruk Relentless
Eureka
Plow Under
Garruk, Primal Hunter
Garruk Caller of Beasts
Tooth and Nail
Genesis Wave
Red(67):
Greater Gargadon
Grim Lavamancer
Goblin Guide
Jackal Pup
Firedrinker Satyr
Stromkirk Noble
Reckless Waif
Gorilla Shaman
Goblin Welder
Keldon Marauders
Reckless Reveler
Young Pyromancer
Kargan Dragon Lord
Plated Geopede
Stormblood Berserkers
Torch Fiend
LIghtning Maulers
Ash Zealot
Gore-house Chainwalker
Keldon Vandals
Manic Vandal
Chandra's Phoenix
Goblin Ruinblaster
Flametongue Kavu
Avalanche Riders
Hero of Oxid Ridge
Hellrider
Siege-gang Commander
Zealous Conscripts
Thundermaw Hellkite
Kiki-Jiki
Inferno Titan
Barbarian Ring
Lightning Bolt
Burst Lightning
Fire Bolt
Chain Lightning
Faithless Looting
Magma Jet
Incinerate
Arc Trail
Searing Blaze
Shrine of Burning Rage
Searing Spear
Smash to Smithereens
Lightning Strike
Char
Arc Lightning
Staggershock
Pillage
Hammer of Purphoros
Sulfuric Vortex
Wheel of Fortune
Flames of the FIrebrand
Molten Rain
Empty the Warrens
Koth of the Hammer
Sneak Attack
Chandra Pyromaster
Chandra Nalaar
Jokulhaups
Fireblast
Burning of Xinye
Wildfire
Rolling Earthquake
Earthquake
Devil's Play
White(67):
Elite Vanguard
Savannah Lions
Mother of Runes
Student of Warfare
Isamaru
Soldier of the Pantheon
Ronom Unicorn
Soltari Priest
Kor Skyfisher
Soltari Monk
Wall of Omens
Stoneforge Mystic
Lone Missionary
Stormfront Pegasus
Cloistered Youth
Thalia Guardian of Thraben
Daring Skyjek
Accorder Paladin
Imposing Sovreign
Soltari Trooper
Stone Cloaker
Soltari Champion
Mirror Entity
Mirran Crusader
Porcelain Legionairre
Silverblade Paladin
Flickerwisp
Blade Splicer
Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Restoration Angel
Wall of Reverence
Galepowder Mage
Hero of Bladehold
Sublime Archangel
Baneslayer Angel
Cloudgoat Ranger
Reveillark
Geist Honored Monk
Scion of Vitu-Ghazi
Archangel of Thune
Yosei, the Morning Star
Sun Titan
Elesh Norn
Mikaeus, the Lunarch
Decree of Justice
Path to Exile
Swords to Plowshares
Land Tax
Mana Tithe
Balance
Journey to Nowhere
Oblivion Ring
Spectral Procession
Spear of Heliod
Faith's Fetters
Elspeth, Knight Errant
Armageddon
Ajani Goldmane
Day of Judgment
Wrath of God
Parallax Wave
Ravages of War
Gideon Jura
Elspeth Tirel
Akroma's Vengeance
Catastrophe
Unexpectedly Absent
Colorless (85):
Epochrasite
Mortarpod
Perilous Myr
Phyrexian Revoker
Spellskite
Metal Worker
Burnished Hart
Lodestone Golem
Solemn Simulacrum
Precursor Golem
Batterskull
Duplicant
Triskelion
Wurmcoil Engine
Myr Battlesphere
Sundering Titan
Kozilek
Ulamog
Emrakul
Strip Mine
Mishra's Factory
Maze of Ith
Tolarian Academy
Mutavault
Library of Alexandria
Wasteland
City of Brass
Rishadan Port
Mishra's Workshop
Mox Diamond
5 Moxen
Black Lotus
Everflowing Chalice
Mana Crypt
Astral Cornucopia
Mana Vault
Skullclamp
Sol Ring
Bonesplitter
Cursed Scroll
Umezawa's Jitte
Prismatic Lens
Mind Stone
Scroll Rack
Grim Monolith
Ankh of Mishra
Winter Orb
Coldsteel Heart
Izzet Signet
Azorious Signet
Dimir Signet
Simic Signet
Orzhov Signet
5 Talismans
Darksteel Ingot
Coalition Relic
Sword of Feast and Famine
Sword of Body and Mind
Mimic Vat
Crystal Shard
Sword of Fire and Ice
Sword of Light and Shadow
Tangle Wire
Sword of War and Peace
Basalt Monolith
Staff of Domination
Pristine Talisman
Erratic Portal
Muse Vessel
Icy Manipulator
Memory Jar
Gilded Lotus
Obelisk of Alara
Mindslaver
Akroma's Memorial
Karn Liberated
All is Dust
Color Specific Land (55):
5 Vivid Lands
10 Fetches
10 ABU Duals
10 Karoos
10 Shock Lands
5 WWK Manlands
8 Temples
Gold (65):
WU
Lavinia of the Tenth
Supreme Authority
Sphinx's Revelation
Detention Sphere
Geist of Saint Traft
UB
Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Baleful Strix
Havengul Lich
Far/Away
Ashiok Night Weaver
BR
Olivia Voldaren
Murderous Redcap
Dreadbore
Rackdos Cackler
Falkenrath Aristocrat
RG
Bloodbraid Elf
Huntmaster of the Fells
Kessig Wolf Run
Sarkhan Vol
Ghor-Clan Ravager
Xenagos the Reveler
GW
Voice of Resurgance
Mirari's Wake
Kitchen Finks
Qasali Pridemage
Selesnya Charm
Dryad Militant
WB
Obzedat Ghost Council
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Lingering Souls
Vindicate
UR
Electrolyze
Izzet Charm
Fire/Ice
Ral Zarek
Turn/Burn
Steam Augury
BG
Putrefy
Lotleth Troll
Dred Mangle
Maelstrom Pulse
Pernicious Deed
Deathrite Shaman
Vraska
Deadbridge Chant
Down/Dirty
RW
Ajani Vengeant
Lightning Helix
Boros Charm
Figure of Destiny
Slayer's Stronghold
Boros Reckoner
Assemble the Legion
Ana and Cymede
GU
Kiora's Follower
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Plasma Capture
Progenitor Mimic
Mystic Snake
Edric, Spymaster of Tryst
Trygon Predator
Alchemist's Refuge
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Maelstrom Wanderer
Want List:
Original List:
Relic of Progenitus
Epochrasite
Tetravus
Memnarch
Akroma's Memorial
Phyrexian War Beast (1)
Rocket Launcher
Darksteel Colossus
Juggernaut
Platinum Angel
Chromatic Star
Stuffy Doll
Foriysian Totem
Sigil of Distinction
Gauntlet of Power
Masticore
Icy Manipulator
Mindless Automaton
Ticking Gnomes
Lotus Bloom
Dragon Blood
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII
Dragon Blood
Armillary Sphere
Diviner's Wand
Quietus Spike
Fellwar Stone
Darksteel Gargoyle
Helm of Awakening
Clockwork Hydra
Clockwork Beast
Bosh, Iron Golem
Duplicant
Coalition Relic
Triskelavus
Prismatic Lens
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Totem
Phyrexian Grimoire
Triskelion
Moonglove Extract
Muse Vessel
Puppet Strings
Coldsteel Heart
Lotus Petal
Grinning Totem
Howling Mine
Fireshrieker
Empyrial Plate
Dolmen Gate
Darksteel Ingot
Jayemdae Tome
Black (47/50):
Avatar of Woe
Sengir Nosferatu
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Expunge
Sengir Vampire
Decree of Pain
Hasran Ogress (1)
Pestilence
Exhume
Violet Pall
Hypnotic Specter
Thoughtseize
Victimize
Ashes to Ashes
Dark Ritual
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Soul Feast
Incremental Blight
Mind Shatter
Dread
Brainspoil
Sorceress Queen
Lim-Dul the Necromancer
Vile Requiem
Havoc Demon
Shriekmaw
Warren Pilferers
Enslave
Reanimate
Mirri the Cursed
Marsh Flitter
Sudden Spoiling
Midnight Banshee
Oona's Prowler
Chill to the Bone
Soul Collector
Plague Sliver
Order of the Ebon Hand (1)
Demonic Tutor
Terror
Reiver Demon
Tendrils of Agony
Minions' Murmurs
Vein Drinker
Faceless Butcher
Liliana Vess
Doom Blade
Green(48/50):
Quirion Elves
Rhox
Wren's Run Packmaster
Wren's Run Vanquisher
Brooding Saurian
Primal Command
Regrowth
Verdant Embrace
Priest of Titania
Llanowar Elves
Cockatrice
Gaea's Anthem
Wild Nacatl
Harmonize
Tarmogoyf
Spectral Force
Sprout Swarm
Llanowar Mentor
Elvish Harbinger
Seedborn Muse
Imperious Perfect
Feral Hydra
Call of the Herd
Birds of Paradise
Wurmcalling
Bloom Tender
Allosaurus Rider
Hurricane
Voice of the Woods
Chameleon Colossus
Briarhorn
Fertile Ground
Giant Growth
Rancor
Immaculate Magistrate
Wickerbough Elder
Nacatl War-Pride
Epic Proportions
Desert Twister
Utopia Vow
Cream of the Crop
Cliffrunner Behemoth
Stonewood Invocation
Sylvan Scrying
Wolf-Skull Shaman
Garruk Wildspeaker
Mycoloth
Thelonite Hermit
Gold (74/60 2 color cards plus roughly 20 3+ color cards):
Deathbringer Thoctar
Murderous Redcap
Sealed Fate
Elemental Augury
Deathbringer Liege
Golgari Rotwurm
Night/Day
Overbeing of Myth
Coiling Oracle
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Oros, the Avenger
Izzet Chronarch
Kitchen Finks
Kulrath Knight
Sturdy Hatchling
Juniper Order Ranger
Ith, High Arcanist
Kaervek the Merciless
Mystic Snake
Intet, the Dreamer
Lim-Dul's Vault
Numot, the Devastator
Mirari's Wake
Nemesis of Reason
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Stillmoon Cavalier
Branching Bolt
Tidehollow Sculler
Valleymaker
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Teneb, the Harvester
Castigate
Cankerous Thirst
Wort, the Raidmother
Bull Cerodon
Wall of Denial
Quicksilver Dagger
Void
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Selesnya Evangel
Selesnya Guildmage
Stormbind
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Rosheen Meanderer
Ajani Vengeant
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sabertooth Nishoba
Spitemare
Silkbind Faerie
Skeleton Ship
Sky Hussar
Prophetic Bolt
Snakeform
Unmake
Consume Strength
Necrogenesis
Belligerent Hatchling
Bloodbraid Elf
Slave of Bolas
Vorosh, the Hunter
Swans of Bryn Argoll
Figure of Destiny
Broodmate Dragon
Noxious Hatchling
Lorescale Coatl
Kiss of the Amesha
Call the Skybreaker
Terminate
Sphinx Summoner
Sol'kanar the Swamp King
Land (24/??):
Vivid Crag
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Urza's Factory
Academy Ruins
Terramorphic Expanse
Strip Mine (2)
Temple of the False God
Seaside Citadel
Mishra's Factory
City of Brass
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Maze of Ith
Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Mutavault
Crumbling Necropolis
Mirrodin's Core
Vivid Grove
Vesuva
Vivid Creek
Pendelhaven
Savage Lands
Stalking Stones
Red(49/50):
Riddle of Lightning
Chandra Nalaar
Reiterate
Pyrokinesis
Reckless Abandon
Lightning Bolt
Goblin Assault
Rathi Dragon
Reckless Wurm
Flame Jab
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Mogg Fanatic
Fortune Thief
Flameblast Dragon
Titan's Revenge
Furystoke Giant
Greater Gargadon
Spitebellows
Disintegrate
Caldera Hellion
Mana Flare
Volcanic Fallout
Cinder Seer
Searing Wind
Volcano Hellion
Wildfire
Fireball
Volcano Hellion
Scourge of Kher Ridges
Jokulhaups
Blood Knight
Caldera Hellion
Taurean Mauler
Dragon Whelp
Spikeshot Goblin
Word of Seizing
Fissure
Sulfur Elemental
Granite Gargoyle
Wheel of Fate
Lightning Axe
Gathan Raiders
Magus of the Scroll
Hostility
Flame Javelin
Earthquake
Rivals' Duel
Magus of the Arena
Fiery Temper
Blue(47/50):
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mind Spring
Think Twice
Psionic Blast
Fathom Trawl
Counterspell
Dream Cache
Riftwing Cloudskate
Kederekt Leviathan
Precognition
Sharding Sphinx
Dreamscape Artist
Turnabout
Dissipate
Force of Will
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Cryptic Command
Abduction
Jace Beleren
Fathom Seer
Sower of Temptation
Thirst for Knowledge
Ancestral Vision
Erratic Mutation
Brainstorm
Spiketail Drakeling
Magus of the Jar
Confiscate
Control Magic
Second Wind
Leech Bonder
Palinchron
Ray of Command
Shaper Parasite
Draining Whelk
Clone
Mulldrifter
Mahamoti Djinn
Opportunity
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Aeon Chronicler
Foresee
AEthersnipe
Prodigal Sorcerer
Ixidron
Boomerang
Djinn of Wishes
White(50/50):
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Calciderm
White Knight
Mirror Entity
Pristine Angel
Ballynock Trapper
Soltari Monk
Battlegrace Angel
Knight of Meadowgrain
Goldmeadow Harrier
Galepowder Mage
Judge Unworthy
Savannah Lions
Ranger of Eos
Celestial Crusader
Disenchant
Magus of the Disk
Ronom Unicorn
Sunlance
Resurrection
Pacifism
Cloudgoat Ranger
Benalish Commander
Soltari Priest
Swords to Plowshares
Knight of Meadowgrain
Sensei Golden-Tail
Sacred Mesa
Knight of the White Orchid
Shield Dancer
Serra Angel
Orim, Samite Healer
Serra Avenger
Commander Eesha
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Glorious Anthem
Humility
Armageddon
Test of Faith
Ajani Goldmane
Purity
Knight of Dawn
Recumbent Bliss
Wrath of God
Path to Exile
Spirit en-Kor
Elite Vanguard
Harm's Way
Additons: 7/17 Add Doom Blade, Djinn of Wishes, Elite Vanguard, Harm's Way, Figure of Destiny
Removals: Konda, Kinsbaile Cavalier, Waves of Agression
Some of the cards are less than optimum, but we can leave those alone for now. The cards I'll make not of here are ones that have probably no business in any cube.
By removing the following cards for (really any) cards in someone else's cube on this thread, you can dramatically increase the power-level of your cube.
Here it goes:
I've got to stop for now... hopefully someone can help you out with the rest of the colors. If not, I'll post again later.
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didnt cut it bone dry but some of these can go
Dream Cache (Counsel of the Soratami is better, yet i am still not a fan. haah)
Kederekt Leviathan (use this leviathan ... Inkwell Leviathan)
Abduction (Binding Grasp?)
Magus of the Jar (magus of the future is better)
Ray of Command (Desertion perhaps or Acquire are both better, Bribery , Treachery)
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Akroma's memorial and Darksteel Gargoyle I will move to the replace pile, and the rest of them are admittedly overcosted, but don't know what to replace them with. Enslave just seems really good. What cards can give me the same kind of power in control mirrors as Muse Vessel? Riddle I will try to cut if I can find replacements (though at sadness to myself as I love it). Moonglove extract is to give every color an access to some direct damage spells. Is there better artifact direct damage out there? (I also have an aeleopile if that's better.) Is brainspoil's transmute and violet pall's extra abilities not really worth it? What black removal should I try to replace them with? And for chill to the bone, isn't the ability to destroy anything worth it. I don't have any snow creatures in my cube, so the lack of targeting restrictions makes it seem worth the extra cost.
Brooding Saurian I have no plans on cutting. He serves a very specific function (shutting down blue steal happy decks). It's the same as putting specific card type removal in the cube, or relic of prog, or whatever. There are always going to be late picks, and I agree with whoever said it that cards that are generally poor, but occasionally really good, are good cards to have at the end of packs.
Endrek Sahr, is ok, and a bit scary but I think they might be right about him not being that good. If I can find replacement cards I will give him the cut.
I do agree with the rest of the cards though. There are much better options for those slots. kcolloran, for ideas on what to put in over the suggested cards, just check out other cubes on these forums and see what they're running that you're not.
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Change: Valleymaker out Apocalypse Hydra in
Black (50/50):
Avatar of Woe
Sengir Nosferatu
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Expunge
Sengir Vampire
Decree of Pain
Hasran Ogress (1)
Pestilence
Exhume
Violet Pall
Hypnotic Specter
Thoughtseize
Victimize
Ashes to Ashes
Dark Ritual
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Soul Feast
Incremental Blight
Mind Shatter
Dread
Brainspoil
Sorceress Queen
Lim-Dul the Necromancer
Vile Requiem
Havoc Demon
Shriekmaw
Warren Pilferers
Enslave
Reanimate
Mirri the Cursed
Marsh Flitter
Sudden Spoiling
Midnight Banshee
Oona's Prowler
Chill to the Bone
Soul Collector
Plague Sliver
Order of the Ebon Hand (1)
Demonic Tutor
Terror
Reiver Demon
Tendrils of Agony
Minions' Murmurs
Vein Drinker
Faceless Butcher
Liliana Vess
Doom Blade
Innocent Blood
Cemetery Reaper
Necropotence
Blue(47/50):
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mind Spring
Think Twice
Psionic Blast
Riptide Survivor
Counterspell
Dream Cache
Riftwing Cloudskate
Kederekt Leviathan
Precognition
Sharding Sphinx
Dreamscape Artist
Turnabout
Dissipate
Force of Will
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Cryptic Command
Callous Opressor
Jace Beleren
Fathom Seer
Sower of Temptation
Thirst for Knowledge
Ancestral Vision
Body Double
Brainstorm
Compulsive Research
Magus of the Jar
Confiscate
Control Magic
Second Wind
Leech Bonder
Palinchron
Tinker
Shaper Parasite
Draining Whelk
Clone
Mulldrifter
Mahamoti Djinn
Opportunity
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Aeon Chronicler
Soramaro, First to Dream
AEthersnipe
Prodigal Sorcerer
Ixidron
Repeal
Djinn of Wishes
Magus of the Future
Serendib Efreet
Gifts Ungiven
Green(50/50):
Quirion Elves
Rhox
Wren's Run Packmaster
Wren's Run Vanquisher
Brooding Saurian
Primal Command
Regrowth
Verdant Embrace
Priest of Titania
Llanowar Elves
Gaea's Anthem
Wild Nacatl
Harmonize
Tarmogoyf
Spectral Force
Sprout Swarm
Llanowar Mentor
Elvish Harbinger
Seedborn Muse
Imperious Perfect
Feral Hydra
Call of the Herd
Birds of Paradise
Wurmcalling
Bloom Tender
Allosaurus Rider
Hurricane
Voice of the Woods
Chameleon Colossus
Briarhorn
Fertile Ground
Giant Growth
Rancor
Immaculate Magistrate
Wickerbough Elder
Nacatl War-Pride
Epic Proportions
Desert Twister
Utopia Vow
Cream of the Crop
Overrun
Stonewood Invocation
Sylvan Scrying
Wolf-Skull Shaman
Garruk Wildspeaker
Mycoloth
Thelonite Hermit
Berserk
Channel
Citanul Heirophants
Red(47/50):
Hanabi Blast
Chandra Nalaar
Reiterate
Pyrokinesis
Shivan Hellkite
Lightning Bolt
Goblin Assault
Rathi Dragon
Reckless Wurm
Flame Jab
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Fortune Thief
Flameblast Dragon
Titan's Revenge
Furystoke Giant
Greater Gargadon
Spitebellows
Disintegrate
Caldera Hellion
Mana Flare
Volcanic Fallout
Flowstone Slide
Wildfire (missing)
Fireball
Meltdown
Scourge of Kher Ridges
Jokulhaups
Blood Knight
Taurean Mauler
Dragon Whelp
Galvanic Arc
Word of Seizing
Fissure
Sulfur Elemental
Granite Gargoyle
Wheel of Fate
Lightning Axe
Gathan Raiders
Magus of the Scroll
Jiwari Flame Asunder
Flame Javelin
Earthquake
Rivals' Duel
Magus of the Arena
Fiery Temper
Siege-gang Commander
Kumano, Master Yamabushi
White(50/50):
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Calciderm
Faith's Fetters
Mirror Entity
Pristine Angel
Ballynock Trapper
Soltari Monk
Battlegrace Angel
Knight of Meadowgrain
Goldmeadow Harrier
Galepowder Mage
Judge Unworthy
Savannah Lions
Ranger of Eos
Celestial Crusader
Disenchant
Magus of the Disk
Ronom Unicorn
Balance
Resurrection
Pacifism
Cloudgoat Ranger
Benalish Commander
Soltari Priest
Swords to Plowshares
Knight of Meadowgrain
Sensei Golden-Tail
Sacred Mesa
Knight of the White Orchid
Shield Dancer
Serra Angel
Orim, Samite Healer
Baneslayer Angel
Commander Eesha
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Glorious Anthem
Humility
Armageddon
Test of Faith
Ajani Goldmane
Purity
Knight of Dawn
Recumbent Bliss
Wrath of God
Path to Exile
Spirit en-Kor
Elite Vanguard
Harm's Way
Artifacts (58/60):
Relic of Progenitus
Epochrasite
Tetravus
Memnarch
Akroma's Memorial
Phyrexian War Beast (1)
Rocket Launcher
Darksteel Colossus
Juggernaut
Platinum Angel
Chromatic Star
Stuffy Doll
Foriysian Totem
Sigil of Distinction
Gauntlet of Power
Masticore
Icy Manipulator
Mindless Automaton
Ticking Gnomes
Lotus Bloom
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII
Dragon Blood
Armillary Sphere
Diviner's Wand
Quietus Spike
Fellwar Stone
Darksteel Gargoyle
Helm of Awakening
Clockwork Hydra
Clockwork Beast
Bosh, Iron Golem
Duplicant
Coalition Relic
Triskelavus
Prismatic Lens
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Totem
Phyrexian Grimoire
Triskelion
Moonglove Extract
Muse Vessel
Puppet Strings (missing)
Coldsteel Heart
Lotus Petal
Grinning Totem
Howling Mine
Fireshrieker
Empyrial Plate
Dolmen Gate
Darksteel Ingot
Jayemdae Tome (missing)
Skullclamp
Sensei's Diving Top
Lightning Greaves
Predator Flagship
Spectral Searchlight
Magebane Armor
Leonin Bola
Land (37/??):
Vivid Crag
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Urza's Factory
Academy Ruins
Terramorphic Expanse
Strip Mine (2)
Temple of the False God
Seaside Citadel
Mishra's Factory
City of Brass
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Maze of Ith
Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Mutavault
Crumbling Necropolis
Mirrodin's Core
Vivid Grove
Vesuva
Vivid Creek
Pendelhaven
Savage Lands
Stalking Stones
Tolarian Academy
10 Karoos
Miren the Moaning Well
Exotic Orchard
Gold (73/60 2 color cards plus roughly 20 3+ color cards):
Deathbringer Thoctar
Murderous Redcap
Sealed Fate
Elemental Augury
Deathbringer Liege
Golgari Guildmage
Mortify
Overbeing of Myth
Coiling Oracle
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Oros, the Avenger
Izzet Chronarch
Kitchen Finks
Kulrath Knight
Sturdy Hatchling
Juniper Order Ranger
Ith, High Arcanist
Kaervek the Merciless
Mystic Snake
Intet, the Dreamer
Lim-Dul's Vault
Numot, the Devastator
Mirari's Wake
Nemesis of Reason
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Stillmoon Cavalier
Savage Twister
Tidehollow Sculler
Apocalypse Hydra
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Teneb, the Harvester
Castigate
Cankerous Thirst
Wort, the Raidmother
Bull Cerodon
Wall of Denial
Quicksilver Dagger
Void
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Behemoth Sledge
Selesnya Guildmage
Stormbind
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Vengeful Rebirth
Ajani Vengeant
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sabertooth Nishoba
Spitemare
Silkbind Faerie
Skeleton Ship
Sky Hussar
Prophetic Bolt
Snakeform
Unmake
Consume Strength
Necrogenesis
Belligerent Hatchling
Bloodbraid Elf
Slave of Bolas
Vorosh, the Hunter
Swans of Bryn Argoll
Figure of Destiny
Broodmate Dragon
Putrefy
Lorescale Coatl
Kiss of the Amesha
Call the Skybreaker
Terminate
Dimir Guildmage
Sol'kanar the Swamp King
Additions: Innocent Blood, Cemetery Reaper, Necropotence, Serendib Efreet, Gifts Ungiven, Tinker, Body Double, Callous Opressor, Repeal, Riptide Survivor, Soramaro First to Dream, Compulsive Research, Citanul Heirophants, Overrun, Siege-gang Commander, Shivan Hellkite, Jiwari Flame Asunder, Flowstone Slide, Kumano Master Yamabushi, Hanabi Blast, Galvanic Arc, Meltdown, Baneslayer Angel, Faith's Fetter's, Balance, Skullclamp, Sensei's Diving Top, Lightning Greaves, Predator Flagship, Spectral Searchlight, Magebane Armor, Leonin Bola, Tolarian Academy, 10 Karoos, Miren the Moaning Well, Exotic Orchard, Dimir Guildmage, Savage Twister, Mortify, Putrefy, Golgari Guildmage, Behemoth Sledge, Vengeful Rebirth
Subtractions: Ray of Command, Erratic Mutation, Abduction, Boomerang, Fathom Trawl, Forsee, Spiketail Drakeling, Cliffrunner Behemoth, Hostility, Reckless Abandon, Searing Wind, Cinder Seer, Riddle of Lightning, Spikeshot Goblin, Volcanic Hellion, Sunlance, White Knight, Serra's Avenger, Sphinx Summoner, Branching Bolt, Night/Day, Golgari Rotwurm, Noxious Hatchling, Selesnya Evangel, Rosheen Meanderer
Black (50/50):
Avatar of Woe
Sengir Nosferatu
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Expunge
Sengir Vampire
Decree of Pain
Hasran Ogress (1)
Pestilence
Exhume
Violet Pall
Hypnotic Specter
Thoughtseize
Victimize
Ashes to Ashes
Dark Ritual
Hymn to Tourach (4)
Phyrexian Arena
Incremental Blight
Mind Shatter
Dread
Brainspoil
Sorceress Queen
Beacon of Unrest
Vile Requiem
Havoc Demon
Shriekmaw
Warren Pilferers
Enslave
Reanimate
Mirri the Cursed
Marsh Flitter
Sudden Spoiling
Midnight Banshee
Oona's Prowler
Chill to the Bone
Soul Collector
Plague Sliver
Order of the Ebon Hand (1)
Demonic Tutor
Terror
Grave Pact
Tendrils of Agony
Minions' Murmurs
Vein Drinker
Faceless Butcher
Liliana Vess
Doom Blade
Innocent Blood
Cemetery Reaper
Necropotence
Blue(50/50):
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mind Spring
Think Twice
Psionic Blast
Riptide Survivor
Counterspell
Dream Cache
Riftwing Cloudskate
Kederekt Leviathan
Precognition
Sharding Sphinx
Dreamscape Artist
Turnabout
Dissipate
Force of Will
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Cryptic Command
Callous Opressor
Jace Beleren
Fathom Seer
Sower of Temptation
Thirst for Knowledge
Ancestral Vision
Body Double
Brainstorm
Compulsive Research
Magus of the Jar
Confiscate
Control Magic
Second Wind
Leech Bonder
Palinchron
Tinker
Shaper Parasite
Draining Whelk
Clone
Mulldrifter
Mahamoti Djinn
Opportunity
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Aeon Chronicler
Soramaro, First to Dream
AEthersnipe
Prodigal Sorcerer
Ixidron
Repeal
Djinn of Wishes
Magus of the Future
Serendib Efreet
Gifts Ungiven
Green(50/50):
Quirion Elves
Forgotten Ancient
Wren's Run Packmaster
Wren's Run Vanquisher
Brooding Saurian
Primal Command
Regrowth
Verdant Embrace
Priest of Titania
Llanowar Elves
Gaea's Anthem
Wild Nacatl
Harmonize
Tarmogoyf
Spectral Force
Sprout Swarm
Llanowar Mentor
Elvish Harbinger
Seedborn Muse
Imperious Perfect
Feral Hydra
Call of the Herd
Birds of Paradise
Wurmcalling
Bloom Tender
Allosaurus Rider
Hurricane
Voice of the Woods
Chameleon Colossus
Briarhorn
Fertile Ground
Giant Growth
Rancor
Immaculate Magistrate
Wickerbough Elder
Nacatl War-Pride
Epic Proportions
Desert Twister
Utopia Vow
Cream of the Crop
Overrun
Stonewood Invocation
Sylvan Scrying
Wolf-Skull Shaman
Garruk Wildspeaker
Mycoloth
Thelonite Hermit
Berserk
Channel
Citanul Heirophants
Red(50/50):
Hanabi Blast
Chandra Nalaar
Reiterate
Pyrokinesis
Shivan Hellkite
Lightning Bolt
Goblin Assault
Rathi Dragon
Reckless Wurm
Flame Jab
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Fortune Thief
Flameblast Dragon
Titan's Revenge
Furystoke Giant
Greater Gargadon
Spitebellows
Disintegrate
Caldera Hellion
Mana Flare
Volcanic Fallout
Flowstone Slide
Wildfire (missing)
Fireball
Meltdown
Scourge of Kher Ridges
Jokulhaups
Blood Knight
Taurean Mauler
Dragon Whelp
Galvanic Arc
Word of Seizing
Fissure
Sulfur Elemental
Granite Gargoyle
Wheel of Fate
Lightning Axe
Gathan Raiders
Magus of the Scroll
Jiwari Flame Asunder
Flame Javelin
Earthquake
Rivals' Duel
Magus of the Arena
Fiery Temper
Siege-gang Commander
Kumano, Master Yamabushi
Flametongue Kavu,
Furnace of Rath,
Rolling Thunder
White(50/50):
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Calciderm
Faith's Fetters
Mirror Entity
Pristine Angel
Ballynock Trapper
Soltari Monk
Battlegrace Angel
Knight of Meadowgrain
Goldmeadow Harrier
Galepowder Mage
Judge Unworthy
Akroma's Vengeance
Ranger of Eos
Celestial Crusader
Disenchant
Magus of the Disk
Ronom Unicorn
Balance
Resurrection
Pacifism
Cloudgoat Ranger
Benalish Commander
Soltari Priest
Swords to Plowshares
Knight of Meadowgrain
Sensei Golden-Tail
Sacred Mesa
Knight of the White Orchid
Shield Dancer
Serra Angel
Orim, Samite Healer
Baneslayer Angel
Commander Eesha
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Glorious Anthem
Orim's Thunder
Armageddon
Test of Faith
Ajani Goldmane
Purity
Knight of Dawn
Recumbent Bliss
Wrath of God
Path to Exile
Spirit en-Kor
Elite Vanguard
Harm's Way
Artifacts (58/60):
Relic of Progenitus
Epochrasite
Tetravus
Memnarch
Akroma's Memorial
Phyrexian War Beast (1)
Rocket Launcher
Darksteel Colossus
Juggernaut
Platinum Angel
Chromatic Star
Stuffy Doll
Foriysian Totem
Sigil of Distinction
Gauntlet of Power
Masticore
Icy Manipulator
Mindless Automaton
Ticking Gnomes
Lotus Bloom
Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII
Dragon Blood
Armillary Sphere
Diviner's Wand
Quietus Spike
Fellwar Stone
Darksteel Gargoyle
Helm of Awakening
Clockwork Hydra
Clockwork Beast
Bosh, Iron Golem
Duplicant
Coalition Relic
Triskelavus
Prismatic Lens
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Totem
Phyrexian Grimoire
Triskelion
Moonglove Extract
Muse Vessel
Puppet Strings (missing)
Coldsteel Heart
Lotus Petal
Grinning Totem
Howling Mine
Fireshrieker
Empyrial Plate
Dolmen Gate
Darksteel Ingot
Jayemdae Tome (missing)
Skullclamp
Sensei's Diving Top
Lightning Greaves
Predator Flagship
Spectral Searchlight
Magebane Armor
Leonin Bola
Land (37/??):
Vivid Crag
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Urza's Factory
Academy Ruins
Terramorphic Expanse
Strip Mine (2)
Temple of the False God
Seaside Citadel
Mishra's Factory
City of Brass
Vivid Marsh
Vivid Meadow
Maze of Ith
Arcane Sanctum
Jungle Shrine
Mutavault
Crumbling Necropolis
Mirrodin's Core
Vivid Grove
Vesuva
Vivid Creek
Pendelhaven
Savage Lands
Stalking Stones
Tolarian Academy
10 Karoos
Miren the Moaning Well
Exotic Orchard
Gold (73/60 2 color cards plus roughly 20 3+ color cards):
Deathbringer Thoctar
Murderous Redcap
Sealed Fate
Elemental Augury
Deathbringer Liege
Golgari Guildmage
Mortify
Overbeing of Myth
Coiling Oracle
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
Oros, the Avenger
Izzet Chronarch
Kitchen Finks
Kulrath Knight
Sturdy Hatchling
Juniper Order Ranger
Ith, High Arcanist
Kaervek the Merciless
Mystic Snake
Intet, the Dreamer
Lim-Dul's Vault
Numot, the Devastator
Mirari's Wake
Nemesis of Reason
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Stillmoon Cavalier
Savage Twister
Tidehollow Sculler
Apocalypse Hydra
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Sygg, River Cutthroat
Teneb, the Harvester
Castigate
Cankerous Thirst
Wort, the Raidmother
Lightning Helix
Wall of Denial
Quicksilver Dagger
Void
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Behemoth Sledge
Selesnya Guildmage
Fires of Yavimaya
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Vengeful Rebirth
Ajani Vengeant
Sharuum the Hegemon
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sabertooth Nishoba
Spitemare
Silkbind Faerie
Skeleton Ship
Sky Hussar
Prophetic Bolt
Snakeform
Unmake
Consume Strength
Necrogenesis
Balefire Liege
Bloodbraid Elf
Slave of Bolas
Vorosh, the Hunter
Swans of Bryn Argoll
Figure of Destiny
Broodmate Dragon
Putrefy
Lorescale Coatl
Kiss of the Amesha
Call the Skybreaker
Terminate
Dimir Guildmage
Sol'kanar the Swamp King
Additions: Grave Pact, Beacon of Unrest, Phyrexian Arena, Flametongue Kavu, Furnace of Rath, Rolling Thunder, Forgotten Ancient, Akroma's Vengeance, Orim's Thunder, Fires of Yavimaya, Lightning Helix, Balefire Liege
Removals: Reiver Demon, Lim-Dul the Necromancer, Soul Feast, Rhox, Savannah Lions, Humility, Stormbind, Bull Cerodon, Belligerent Hatchling
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I suggest to keep lists of your changes as you have done now
You've added some nice cards there, although some of those still didn't make the cut for me you're on the right track there.
I don't like Grave Pact but I can see it being ok.
I don't like Temple of the False God. Not being able to tap for any mana in the first turns is a serious drawback. If you want lands that make 2, search for others, there are some replacements available.
Reiterate was never good, even in my EDH deck it sucked. Wild Ricochet is much better if you want a similar card but I wouldn't run even that.
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It seemed less good than elite vanguard and I didn't think I needed 2 white 2/1s. Should I add it back? If so what do you recommend I take out?
I'd cut Sensei Golden-Tail for it.
I used to write cube articles on StarCityGames, now for GatheringMagic and podcast about cube (w/Antknee42.)
White needs as many 2 power 1-Drops as it can get.
And I agree with Usman. The golden-tail can get the chop.
My 630 Card Powered Cube
My Article - "Cube Design Philosophy"
My Article - "Mana Short: A study in limited resource management."
My 50th Set (P)review - Discusses my top 20 Cube cards from OTJ!
Subtractions: Minion's Murmur, Hasran Ogress, Precognition, Mahamoti Djinn, Dream Cache
Additions: Harrow, Vines of Vastwood, Protean Hydra, Oracle of Mul Daya, Rampagin Baloths, Borgardan Hellkite
Subtractions: Verdant Embrace, Allosaurus Rider, Giant Growth, Voice of the Woods, Nacatl War Pride, Granite Gargoyle
Subtractions: Sensei Golden Tail, Shield Dancer, Spirit En-Kor, Knight of Dawn
Alright I will try to remember to card tag from now on. As for doing all the updates at once, that is of course better, I just was in and out of the house, so split it up.
Edit: Traded for her today.
Addition: Elspeth, Knight Errant
Subtraction: Resurrection
Out: Midnight Banshee, Reiterate, Darksteel Gargoyle
Additions: Recurring Nightmare, Mind Twist, Desolation Angel, Nezumi Graverobber, Cabal Interrogator, Bone Shredder, Bribery, Desertion, Forbid, Time Spiral, Stroke of Genius, Frantic Search, Treachery, Vesuvan Doppleganger, Caller of the Claw, Plow Under, Starstorm, Illuminate, Kor Skyfishers, Luminarch Ascension, Yosei the Morning Star, Decree of Justice, Solemn Simulacrum, Mindslaver, Helm of Possession, Phyrexian Processor, Mana Vault
Subtractions: Soul Collector, Sengir Nosferatu, Sengir Vampire, Mirri the Cursed, Havoc Demon, Marsh Flitter, Second Wind, Leech Bonder, Prodigal Sorcerer, Think Twicer, Riptide Survivor, Dissipate, Aethersnipe, Sharding Sphinx, Fertile Ground, Utopia Vow, Flame Jab, Furystroke Giant, Purity, Test of Faith, Serra Angel, Orim Samite Healer, Tetravus, Clockwork Beast, Howling Mine, Dragon's Blood, Dolmen's Gate
What do you think about the changes in the other three colors and the artifacts? Alas, I doubt many more changes like this will occur. I don't know how many other $50 internet only credit cards I'm going to get.