Take your monoblack deck, then set aside 14 swamps. Add 4 Creeping Tar Pits, 4 Darkslick Shores, 4 Drowned Catacombs, and 2 Jwar isle Refuge and add 4 Jace, the Mindsculptors. Your monoblack deck is instantly better. Better yet, drop those refuges, throw in some islands and some mana leaks, and lo and behold, you're now playing a real deck. Congratulations. Welcome to the world of competitive M:TG.
I wouldn't consider it much as the Japanese play quite differently. It's just that most of us are never thinking outside the box when it comes to playing competitively. Sometimes the only way to win out of a one-sided meta is to run something totally opposite and realize that one way or another, speed kills. Bottomline, it's not a surprise to me that this variation of white weenie got top. It's new to the format but we've seen it before.
Just look at the Top 8. There are no control decks like Landstill or Storm combo decks both of which beat white weenie. There was goblins which WW wins, Ichorid which can be fixed with sideboard, and blue based aggro-control which like Morningstar said WW has a fair game against. The reason he did well is because it was a good metagame call.
However, I think it went like this. The championship was coming up and he was too lazy to build a deck so he just grabbed his Standard deck, hoped for the best, and got lucky.
That's the point of the deck. I still think his board was bad with 3 ***'s and only 2 Relics, but his metagame call was a decent one as his ranking proved. Most of the decks that placed higher than him were honed 1.5 lists. And he was a pro, which likely threw off his opponents as Morningstar81 said.
No offense, but this made me laugh. Anyways, I agree that looking at the list there were no control decks that can totally hose WW so yeah it actually increased the chances of this kind of deck to top. Also, it takes a lot of skills to get this kind of performance without using any staple in the format so yeah you gotta give credits him credit for that.
I'm not surprised. At the shop I used to play legacy at we'd have Illusions of Grandeur, Braids, Oppossition, GaT, Extended RDW, and all other sorts of tier 5 jank stealing wins. Playskill matters more than deck choice.
WW got lucky (ok, let's face it, it's Fujita playing; no luck necessary). WW might have a decent shot at Goblins, but that particular build just loses the match. It has no pro-red, no Jitte or equipment in general, no Cataclysm, no Parallax Wave, none of the reasons WW has traditionally been able to defeat Goblins. Hell, it even has a manabase suspectible to Waste/Port; Goblins would destroy it.
That's a T2 build of the deck - no Legacy-cards whatsoever. It can't really beat any of the good Legacy-decks, so the biggest likelihood is that Fujita outplayed some of his opponents and mostly faced jank. Take that through e.g. a gauntlet of the DTB decks over at the Source and you'll notice that it's under 50% vs. all of them (yes, including Zoo and Goblins).
Anyways, random things happen. I've seen Limited decks do well vs. Extended decks and win casual matches, but all that's saying is that the guy with the Limited-deck got lucky. It's possible for any deck to lose two games to just mulling into oblivion.
It has four forge-tenders in the side.
Perhaps the cannonist is for combo decks...
The deck name made me laugh.
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It's funny the way Japanese culture interacts with their gaming. The Smash community (that's a fighting game) have also discovered irregularities in what characters win at their tournaments.
You should treat it like something from another planet and just continue netdecking Landstill and Merfolk and whatnot.
I think forge-tenders would be better suited against a pure burn deck. But even against legacy burn this deck will still have alot of trouble racing them.
With that said, goblins can just ignore the fact that you play with only four pro-red critters and just overpower you in the combat phase. I mean there is a good reason why goblins was the top deck in legacy for a long time.
4 BFTs and nothing else is more or less a speed bump for Burn decks. The deck is loaded down with nothing but burn spells designed to send someone from 20 to 0. If a Lightning Bolt gets stopped, the burn player will just have more burn waiting.
It's also the same problem I see along with Eldariel concerning Ethersworn Canonist. Just 4 Canonists won't cut the mustard in giving you a good matchup against combo.
The main problem with a deck like Kithkin is not only what Cecilia brought up about Goblins overpowering you in combat, but that the deck also struggles against very non-interactive decks... Burn being one of them (the others being your typical combo decks and Ichorid).
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4 Figure of Destiny
4 Goldmeadow Stalwart
4 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Ranger of Eos
4 Wizened Cenn
4 Path to Exile
4 Honor of the Pure
2 Mutavault
15 Plains
4 Rustic Clachan
4 Windbrisk Heights
2 Ajani Goldmane
4 Burrenton Forge-Tender
4 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Wispmare
3 Wrath of God
2 Relic of Progenitus
what I'm wanting to know here is, was he a lucksack with this, or was it surprise, or what? take note, the only non-standard card there is wrath.
e: cleaned it up a bit. hooray for sloppy copy/paste jobs.
However, I think it went like this. The championship was coming up and he was too lazy to build a deck so he just grabbed his Standard deck, hoped for the best, and got lucky.
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That's the point of the deck. I still think his board was bad with 3 ***'s and only 2 Relics, but his metagame call was a decent one as his ranking proved. Most of the decks that placed higher than him were honed 1.5 lists. And he was a pro, which likely threw off his opponents as Morningstar81 said.
No offense, but this made me laugh. Anyways, I agree that looking at the list there were no control decks that can totally hose WW so yeah it actually increased the chances of this kind of deck to top. Also, it takes a lot of skills to get this kind of performance without using any staple in the format so yeah you gotta give credits him credit for that.
You'de think someone playing WW would want to run D&T, but Standard Kithkin.
Although, looking through the rest of the top 8, it's no surprise.
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It has four forge-tenders in the side.
Perhaps the cannonist is for combo decks...
The deck name made me laugh.
You should treat it like something from another planet and just continue netdecking Landstill and Merfolk and whatnot.
I think forge-tenders would be better suited against a pure burn deck. But even against legacy burn this deck will still have alot of trouble racing them.
With that said, goblins can just ignore the fact that you play with only four pro-red critters and just overpower you in the combat phase. I mean there is a good reason why goblins was the top deck in legacy for a long time.
It's also the same problem I see along with Eldariel concerning Ethersworn Canonist. Just 4 Canonists won't cut the mustard in giving you a good matchup against combo.
The main problem with a deck like Kithkin is not only what Cecilia brought up about Goblins overpowering you in combat, but that the deck also struggles against very non-interactive decks... Burn being one of them (the others being your typical combo decks and Ichorid).