I've only recently got back into MTG, and therefor am very limited in my knowledge of individual cards, particularly anything before Shadowmoor. This was my first deck that actually had some potential, so I converted it into an EDH because I very much enjoy that format. Many changes have been made to it since it's conception, and I absolutely love the direction it's heading. There are still quite a few cards I know of that I want in this deck, but I want to know what else is out there. I don't have alot of time to skim through card databases to find what I'm looking for. I love working with descent combos (the coolest thing I've done with this is have Jenara pumped to about twelve, then attack with four other exalted out there including Rafiq and having Finest Hour on the board. My opponent had no blockers. With double strike and two attacks, I've dealt 64 damage to the opponent. Not a whole lot, but enough to win, especially with Battlegrace Angel out there!) If there are any suggestion out there, let me know. Also, the other pride I hold in this deck is that it is about sixty percent foil! Gotta love that!
I was rolling with thirty-eight and always had too much land (I have a few mana producers). After diminishing my count to thirty-three, I have still not run into any issue. I don't know, maybe I have enough good luck to always have the land stacked the way I need it.
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Even if you haven't run into a problem yet, I would run any less than 35 lands.
Jhessian Balmgiver seems pretty good. With a little bit of pump on Rafiq he can get in for his lethal damage in a single swing. I know you've got Whispersilk Cloak, but it's just another of the same effect.
Silent Arbiter - Seems interesting. You're attacking most of the time with a single creature anyway, make your opponent do the same?
And I could be wrong, but I think being a slave to your Exalted theme is going to hurt you. There are so many tiny Exalted guys that don't really do much. Sure, they're giving an attacker 2 extra points of damage when you've got Rafiq out, but I think when it's your opponents' turn to swing, they're going to be hitting a lot harder and you've got Sighted-Caste Sorcerer to block for you.
I'd check other Rafiq lists just to see how they handle it. Just because you're Bant doesn't mean you have to be Exalted.dec.
Mollusk, thank you. I agree regarding being a slave to exalted and I am starting to stray from that. Silent Arbiter is one of the cards I am attempting to get for this deck, and Jhessian Balmgiver was in my deck and is now in my sideboard. I forgot to post my sideboard and will do so later on. Thanks for for the intel and I will be looking at dropping some exalted. The reason I still like some of those creatures is because they are one or two drops. I love being able to throw out Sighted-Caste Sorcerer on the first turn.
several problems. this one should be obvious but why run cancel when counterspell is way better? krosan grip over naturalize, garruk for mana fixing and mana accel, and i dont know if you knew this but if you pop elspeth's final ability with empyrial archangel you automatically win the game. the only thing thats really played in EDH that can get around it is hallowed burial so keep a counterspell open. there are ways around it such as decree of annihilation but no one plays any other non-destroy mass removal other than that. you dont even have to worry about duplicant with archangel because she has shroud. and behemoth sledge needs to be in no matter what. forced fruition is terrible because if any of your opponents has something that doesnt limit their handsize you are giving them an incredible amount of card advantage. i know the thought of having them discard 5 cards seems good but chances are the cards they discard because they have too many, are going to be a whole lot worse than the ones they decide to keep in their hands. i suggest replacing it with opportunity. card draw for you, not for anyone else, is important. also i know you want to have as many exalted cards as possible but you have to be running vesuvan shapeshifter. at the very least she can copy an exalted card. levitation is crap considering a good number of your creatures have flying already, replace it with some other type of counterspell such as forbid, faerie trickery, or HINDER!!!! you need hinder more than any other card. hinder allows you to put someone's general on the bottom of the deck, an absolute must have. also drop some of your weak instants for more counterspells. control is very important. seems like if someone plays hallowed burial you pretty much rollover to it so you need some way to stop that from happening. depending on how much you are willing to spend i say get force of will because it allows you to tap out and still control the game. also your opponents wont know you have it so they might think that now is a good time to drop their bomb then you counter it. dual lands are important so again, depending on how much money you want to spend you will want to get a savannah, tropical island, and tundra. if you dont feel like dropping that much money then you could always go the shock land route. if you do you want hallowed fountain, breeding pool, and temple garden. i also noticed you are extremely short on mass removal. every, and i mean every, white deck needs to be running wrath of god. also planar cleansing, oblivion stone, and nevinyrral's disk. i know you might think that blowing your own board is bad but if you get elspeth it doesnt really matter. also you wouldnt use it unless you had to but all of those do need to be at your disposal. try and get as many good draw spells as you can. take out some of your less important sorceries and add in concentrate and tidings. i cant strees enough how necessary card advantage is. i know this seems like a lot but i can promise you that you will be much more pleased with the output and extreme consistency of your deck.
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if you pop elspeth's final ability with empyrial archangel you automatically win the game.
Tell that to my friend's Szadek deck.
But yeah, those two in combination are ridiculous.
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BRG Xira Arien BRG UR Melek, Izzet Paragon UR WUG Jenara, Asura of War WUG WRG Mayael the Anima WRG WB Triad of Fates WB BG Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots BR WR Aurelia the Warleader WR WBG Ghave, Guru of Spores WBG WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
Just FYI... if Szadek attacks into an Empyrial Archangel and is not blocked by the angel then the player receiving damage may choose whether the archangel or szadek's replacement effect occurs first.
Wow... had to look that one up, but you're right, my mistake. Does that work the same way with damage-prevention effects and Szadek?
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BRG Xira Arien BRG UR Melek, Izzet Paragon UR WUG Jenara, Asura of War WUG WRG Mayael the Anima WRG WB Triad of Fates WB BG Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots BR WR Aurelia the Warleader WR WBG Ghave, Guru of Spores WBG WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
This is exactly why I posted my deck. I'm not familiar with all the card combos out there or older cards. Thank you soooo much for the information, most of those cards I'd never even heard of. I have Empyrial Archangel and had never put two and two together and realized why she and Elspeth, Knight-Errant would be a couple of bastards together. Thanks again, and anything else would be great.
dude i cant believe i forgot some very essential cards. bribery, knowledge exploitation, and flash. and i also see absolutely no reason why cold eye snake shouldnt be in there. he is a must. you can attack with coldeye snake then, someone please correct me if this doesnt work as i have never tried it, you could flash in rafiq and get a totally unexpected exalted double strike. jace needs to get the axe as he is simply not good enough in this format. also twincast as there a bazillion things that can be copied in this format. and since youre running elspeth why not run platinum angel. everyone loves an indestructible angel. and another staple of blue in this format is intuition. get that card you really want. genesis and life from the loam also need to be played. get some lands back with loam and then pop it with genesis for any creatures that you just so happen to mill. i know these seem like drastic changes to your overall deck but i promise that you will be much happier and better off. regrowth and reborn hope wouldnt be bad additions either also all suns dawn. all of which are not needed but you might go oooh and ahhh over some of them. just some more combo's and food for thought
Just so you know, Rafiq's trigger only triggers if he's in play when the Selkie (or any other creature) attacks. Flashing it in won't work.
Also, @Deaf To Our Prayers: You seriously need to break that brick of text into paragraphs and capatalize the first letter of each sentence; your posts are so annoying to read the way they are now.
Edit: I'm lazy, so I'll just direct you to my EDH Rafiq list instead of making suggestions here. I'm sure you'll be able to find some cards in there that you'll want to use in your own deck. The link's in my sig.
As of right now nothing comes to mind in your colors. Just use the draw spells i recommended. they are: Opportunity, Tidings, Concentrate, Brain Geyser, Mulldrifter, Intuition, and Sensei's Divining Top. All of those will help you pull out the cards you want faster. Most of the Tutors that get you anything you want are black. There are some blue and green tutors but none of them get you what you want
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ok i cant believe i didnt think of this before because i run it. Planar Portal lets you search for a card. If you need to search for Planar Portal you can use enlightened tutor and idyllic tutor. That will get you what you need. Did that help?
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Just thought of something! Wouldn't it be sweet bring Child of Alara in using Flash, and then choose not to pay it's mana cost? DESTROY EVERYTHING for 1U
you will have to change your general to Child of Alara though. which would put you with an entirely different decklist. It wont even remotely be the same
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No, no. I'm not talking about putting that into my deck. That's just a random thought that hit me when I read "Flash"! Wouldn't that be hillarious in another deck? And yeah, your advice has been helping tremendously. I'm at work now printing off wishlists and hopefully I can swing by the card shop tonight when I get off work.
you cant put it in your deck. in EDH the rules specifically state that you cannot play cards outside of your generals colors. child of alara is all 5 colors and rafiq is only 3 colors. Therefore since Child Of Alara has 2 colors that Rafiq doesnt, she cannot be in the deck as long as rafiq is the general
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you cant put it in your deck. in EDH the rules specifically state that you cannot play cards outside of your generals colors. child of alara is all 5 colors and rafiq is only 3 colors. Therefore since Child Of Alara has 2 colors that Rafiq doesnt, she cannot be in the deck as long as rafiq is the general
Yeah, I understand that. I think you misunderstood me. I don't want to put Child of Alara in my deck. I want to put Flash into another deck that has Child of Alara in it! Sorry if I wasn't clear. Thanks for all of your help thus far.
if its EDH then its fine, but flash is banned in every other sanctioned format other than vintage. but like i said if you make and EDH deck with child in it then its a sick combo
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1 Rafiq of the Many
CREATURES Qty. 26
1 Akrasan Squire
1 Bant Sureblade
1 Battlegrace Angel (F)
1 Emeria Angel
1 Ethercaste Knight (F)
1 Giltspire Avenger (F)
1 Griffin Sentinel
1 Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer
1 Jenara, Asura of War
1 Jhessian Infiltrator (F)
1 Kor Sanctifiers
1 Meddling mage
1 Mirror-Sigil Sergeant
1 Rhox Bodyguard (F)
1 Rhox Charger (F)
1 Serra Angel (F)
1 Sighted-Caste Sorcerer (F)
1 Sigiled Paladin
1 Skyward Eye Prophets
1 Soul Warden
1 Stoic Angel
1 Swans of Bryn Argoll
1 Wall of Denial
1 Wall of Reverence
1 Windbrisk Raptor
1 Winged Coatl (F)
1 Angelic Benediction (F)
1 Asha's Favor (F)
1 Celestial Mantle
1 Crystallization (F)
1 Finest Hour
1 Glorious Anthem
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Knighthood
1 Mark of Asylum
1 Primal Rage
1 Raking Canopy
1 Story Circle
1 Teferi's Moat
INSTANTS Qty. 11
1 Aura Blast (F)
1 Cancel (F)
1 Counterspell
1 Dream Fracture
1 Gather Specimens
1 Graceful Reprieve (F)
1 Neck Snap (F)
1 Remove Soul
1 Repel Intruders (F)
1 Resounding Silence (F)
1 Spell Pierce
ARTIFACTS Qty. 8
1 Akroma's Memorial
1 Behemoth Sledge
1 Citanul Flute (F)
1 Fieldmist Borderpost
1 Obelisk of Bant (F)
1 Quietus Spike
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Wildfield Borderpost
1 Martial Coup
1 Reborn Hope
1 Rout
1 Wrath of God
LANDS Qty. 35
1 Bant Panorama
1 Flooded Grove
8 Forest (F)
1 Fountain of Cho
1 Graypelt Refuge
8 Island (F)
1 Moonring Island (F)
7 Plains (F)
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Sapseep Forest
1 Seaside Citadel (F)
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Unstable Frontier (F)
1 Wasteland
1 Wooded Bastion
PLANESWALKERS Qty. 2
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
(F) = Foil!
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Jhessian Balmgiver seems pretty good. With a little bit of pump on Rafiq he can get in for his lethal damage in a single swing. I know you've got Whispersilk Cloak, but it's just another of the same effect.
Silent Arbiter - Seems interesting. You're attacking most of the time with a single creature anyway, make your opponent do the same?
And I could be wrong, but I think being a slave to your Exalted theme is going to hurt you. There are so many tiny Exalted guys that don't really do much. Sure, they're giving an attacker 2 extra points of damage when you've got Rafiq out, but I think when it's your opponents' turn to swing, they're going to be hitting a lot harder and you've got Sighted-Caste Sorcerer to block for you.
I'd check other Rafiq lists just to see how they handle it. Just because you're Bant doesn't mean you have to be Exalted.dec.
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Tell that to my friend's Szadek deck.
But yeah, those two in combination are ridiculous.
Currently running:
BRG Xira Arien BRG
UR Melek, Izzet Paragon UR
WUG Jenara, Asura of War WUG
WRG Mayael the Anima WRG
WB Triad of Fates WB
BG Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG
BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots BR
WR Aurelia the Warleader WR
WBG Ghave, Guru of Spores WBG
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
Wow... had to look that one up, but you're right, my mistake. Does that work the same way with damage-prevention effects and Szadek?
Currently running:
BRG Xira Arien BRG
UR Melek, Izzet Paragon UR
WUG Jenara, Asura of War WUG
WRG Mayael the Anima WRG
WB Triad of Fates WB
BG Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG
BR Rakdos, Lord of Riots BR
WR Aurelia the Warleader WR
WBG Ghave, Guru of Spores WBG
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
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Also, @Deaf To Our Prayers: You seriously need to break that brick of text into paragraphs and capatalize the first letter of each sentence; your posts are so annoying to read the way they are now.
Edit: I'm lazy, so I'll just direct you to my EDH Rafiq list instead of making suggestions here. I'm sure you'll be able to find some cards in there that you'll want to use in your own deck. The link's in my sig.
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Yeah, I understand that. I think you misunderstood me. I don't want to put Child of Alara in my deck. I want to put Flash into another deck that has Child of Alara in it! Sorry if I wasn't clear. Thanks for all of your help thus far.
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