Welcome to round three of the first ever Vs. Tournament!
Over the coming weeks we here at the Vs. Institute will be pitting two well-known superheroes against each other and letting you determine the outcome.
We've alphabetized the 16 heroes and then randomly paired them.
Even though Ray couldn't see his eyes he could imagine the glare he was getting from his new spokesman. "No."
"Come on, Hancock. You did a great job taking care of that bank robbery, but now you have to show the public that you're better than the other costumed lunatics running--or flying, or whatever--around out there."
Hancock used every bit of his willpower not to soar away and leave Ray with a brand new sky light in his living room. Instead he turned around and started walking toward the front door. That's what he would have done a few weeks ago. But, despite how annoying he was, Ray's predictions about foiling the bank robbery were dead on.
"You think people are going to like me more if I kill some kid dressed up a spider?"
Ray put his palms up and followed behind Hancock. "Whoa, no one's killing anybody. Just bring him in to custody. A citizen's arrest."
Hancock opened the door and walked outside onto Ray's porch.
"Wait, Hancock," Ray called. "He's one of the most dangerous criminals in New York. If you bring him to justice--without killing anybody!--you'll show the people in LA, and the rest of the world, that you're taking responsibility for this great power you've been given."
Hancock stopped walking and turned his head to the side, not quite looking at Ray. "'Most dangerous?'"
"Well, that's what the Daily Bugle says."
"Fine, but only because I haven't got a chance to change out of this ******** costume you got me."
"Great! It seems that he has the powers of--" Ray started. He was cut off by Hancock disappearing into the clouds.
Spider-Man perched on a perching gargoyle overlooking the New York skyline. He'd been doing this so long that his eyes scanned for danger mostly by instinct, which was good because his thoughts were preoccupied beyond reason. The Lizard had been spotted somewhere in the Village, the Avengers had sent him a message about some extra-dimensional thing--with lots of tentacles, Aunt May had come down with the flu, JJ Jameson had threatened to bar him from working--again. It just wasn't a good day--or week--to be a wall-crawler.
Much as it's always been though, things were about to get a lot worse.
He was interrupted by his thoughts by the tell-tale tingling of his spider sense. He dove off the gargoyle just in time to miss the large, leather clad man flying at him.
Spider-Man shot out a web and swung over to the adjacent building where he watched the stranger arc back toward him.
"Either I haven't been keeping up with the updates to the X-Men roster or you're mst be looking for the BSDM convention. If it's the later I really can't help you."
"You the Spider Man?" Hancock asked.
"What gave it away? The webbed pajamas or the shooting sticky web-like streams . . . Maybe I should point out that I'm not going to the BSDM convention either."
"Ok, you're under arrest."
"Hey, waitaminute. You're that Hancock guy from Cali aren't you?"
"Don't call it Cali."
"The guy who flies around drunk and topples over buildings? And you're
arresting me? I have a kettle and a pot I should introduce you to."
"Ok, that's it. Ray said not to kill you, but he didn't say anything about beating the hell out."
Spider-Man just barely reacted in time to dodge another aerial charge and realized that this guy wouldn't be talked down. As Hancock burst out of the other side of the skyscraper, Spider-Man imagine the Daily Bugle headline of him bringing down LA's most dangerous criminal.
Round one: 1. Batman v 16. Wonder Woman Last round: Lobo Vs. 9. Nick Fury
This round: 4. Hancock v 13. Spider-Man
Round four: 5. ??? v 12. ???
Round five: 2. ??? v 15. ???
Round six: 7. ??? v 10. ???
Round seven: 3. ??? v 14. ???
Round eight: 6. ??? v 11. ???
Well, both of these fighters are solo brawlers and drama queens.
The only advantage either has is Spidey's reflexes and Hancock's ability to put entire New York area to rubble, killing Spidey's family and thus weakening him. Which I doubt he will do, so I give this one to Spidey.
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The third round will see someone who's made a deal with a devil go up against someone seen to many as an old prince. Vague enough for you?
Who made a deal with the devil? Spidey or Hancock?
Who is an old prince? Spidey or Hancock?
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Ummm. I've seen Hancock, and I've seen and read lots of Spiderman...
Is Hancock even a comic book character? Is a movie enough to give him a seat in this showdown?
Hancock can:
Fly
Super Strong (think half a superman)
As long as he stays away from Charlise Theron he is nearly invulnerable
Deliver witty banter
Spider can:
Swing
Super strong (think 1/4 superman ~his webbing makes up for any lack of physical strength, it IS as strong as steel)
As long as he stays away from night club dancing he is pretty good in the fight game
Delivers witty banter
I give this one to Hancock only because as far as the movie goes...he would be too physically powerful for Spidey
But I want to say Spidey too, because he has that warrior spirit, the one that tells him to find a way to win even when he is pratically shredded meat
I haven't voted
I am just really surprised at this round...Spidey I believe, what is Hancock doing here?
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This is a tough one. Spidey's taken on guys that are a lot more powerful than him before and come out ahead, but I'm not really sure about a fight with Hancock.
My first instinct is Hancock would win, simply because of his greater destructive power, (eventually he's either going to land a blow or smash something and rubble will take spidey down) but the Spider-Sense makes things more difficult in that regard. This would probably be a long fight because of Hancock's invulnerability, but I think he'd win out in the end.
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I think Spiderman's reflexes and speed should give him the edge here. Plus, his ability to jump and flig from things should help when Hancock tries to create an earthquake to knock him off balance. It may be hard for Spidey to actually knock Hancock out though.
Interesting fight, but I got to go with Spiderman seeing his record in beating Super powered villians and heroes alike. Also I wonder is this Spiderman with the black suite? If so that gives him an edge over Hancock some.
I was wondering how people would react to including Hancock in this ;). I went out of my way to think of at least one person who wasn't from comic books and I figured the Mr. Furious would've been too silly ;). (Also note that I said "at least one.")
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@Shaharazad: I provide links to info on each character in their round's bracket spoiler.
@Dimir: Sorry. I didn't want to limit it to one medium. Hope to see you next tound.
@Icecreamman: I was trying to be as tricky as possible. Indominablebug figured out Spider-Man's part and the actor that played Hancock is pretty well known as a "Prince" in the 90s. Get it?
Now with all that out of the way, debate away (please, I'm still on the fence too).
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Spider-Man wins, not because he's a flagship character and is supposed to win, but because the banter would drive Hancock to the point were he would start making reckless mistakes. Either that, or it'd reach the point were Spidey goes all "blur-fight" on him and throws dozens of punches and kicks in a matter of seconds.
Spider-Man is a "martial artist", with enhanced speed, agility and strength. Hancock is merely a flying "brick": very tough, very strong, but not particularly versatile in a fight. Martial artists fighting styles tend to use their opponent's strengths against them. That's why people like Batman and Captain America, who are "peak performance" humans, can go toe-to-toe with beings who can toss a car like a football.
Spider-Man is a "martial artist", with enhanced speed, agility and strength. Hancock is merely a flying "brick": very tough, very strong, but not particularly versatile in a fight.
Spidey ISN'T a martial artist though. He's had a bit of combat training from Captain America, but he doesn't use Martial Arts per se, he's just a creative street brawler.
Yes, Hancock is a flying brick, but that's actually what makes him so difficult for Spider-Man to beat. Spidey pretty much can't hurt him (The man got hit by a train and was completely unmoved), and Hancock is strong enough that it would only take one, maybe two good hits to take Spider-man down. Spidey may be fast, but he's not particularly durable. Sure, his super-strength means he has some degree of extra toughness/durability, but not enough to obsolete any kind of powerful strike from an above average human. Hancock's blows would take him out.
Believe me, I want to root for Spidey in this one. But I just can't think of a reason for him to win. Even the old 'web in the eyes' trick isn't going to pull him out, and Hancock's flight is powerful enough to negate any kind of webbing shenanigans.
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Well lets look at it this way, Hancock is not the best Superhero around, why do i say this? because he is reckless in how he does things, so throughout the fight he will destroy something and put people in Danger, Spidey will swing to the rescue which will make Hancock curious, he will ask about the Daily Bugle thing and Spidey will explain things, which will cause Hancock to just give up and go to a bar or something.
Honestly Spidey doesnt always win by fighting, sometimes he outsmarts people, or in this case wears him down long enough for him to explain the misunderstanding, and given the set up if Hancock decides not to arrest him anymore its a win for spidey right?
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It's really vague. I was looking for strength in measure of how many Tons he can lift or something along those lines.
I'm going to vote for Spidey on this. Spideys offensive capabilities are not enough to take him out, but his cunning and brains are. He's beaten the Juggernaut before, and I would imagine that Hancock is about on par with Juggies strength and invulnerability.
I was wondering how people would react to including Hancock in this ;). I went out of my way to think of at least one person who wasn't from comic books and I figured the Mr. Furious would've been too silly ;). (Also note that I said "at least one.")
Some replies.
@Shaharazad: I provide links to info on each character in their round's bracket spoiler.
@Dimir: Sorry. I didn't want to limit it to one medium. Hope to see you next tound.
@Icecreamman: I was trying to be as tricky as possible. Indominablebug figured out Spider-Man's part and the actor that played Hancock is pretty well known as a "Prince" in the 90s. Get it?
Now with all that out of the way, debate away (please, I'm still on the fence too).
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I am suprised Ash Williams did not come to you over Hancock for a movie hero. Even though there is a comic series of Army of Darkness.
Well back to subject Spiderman wins this one. Not because he is better known, but because his record at who he defeated. Hancock all he beat is no body thugs. If a second movie came with a real challenge then I might think different.
I feel like the majority of people are voting for spidey just because they don't like hancock. Hancock is invulnerable, spidey can't hurt him, Hancock will win by default because eventually he is going to land a blow on spidey and its going to be done. If spidey can't hurt him, and can't run forever because Hancock is faster, it's only a matter of time before Hancock punches him, and when he does, it's lights out for spidey.
I feel like the majority of people are voting for spidey just because they don't like hancock. Hancock is invulnerable, spidey can't hurt him, Hancock will win by default because eventually he is going to land a blow on spidey and its going to be done. If spidey can't hurt him, and can't run forever because Hancock is faster, it's only a matter of time before Hancock punches him, and when he does, it's lights out for spidey.
I'm not sure hancock is faster in close quarters, more like over distances, but other than that I totally agree with what you're saying.
Spidey just doesn't have a way to win this fight.
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Hancock may be stronger than Spidey, but he's just a brawler who's depended on his special gifts to beat his enemies. Spider-man is more clever than that. Thanks to his access to huge newspaper databases (also known as the internet), Spider-man probably would be able to learn about the events of the Hancock movie and go ask the woman who's also super-strong for her help in stopping Hancock.
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Except they are fighting right now and spider man can't exactly just run away without Hancock seeing him go. Spider man isn't just going to be able to call time out, bust out a cell phone, make some calls, then wait for his plans to come together before they continue the fight.
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Welcome to round three of the first ever Vs. Tournament!
Over the coming weeks we here at the Vs. Institute will be pitting two well-known superheroes against each other and letting you determine the outcome.
We've alphabetized the 16 heroes and then randomly paired them.
Just joining us? Don't worry, the polls are open until the end of Sept.
Round 1: Batman vs. Wonder Woman
Round 2: Lobo vs. Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D.
Even though Ray couldn't see his eyes he could imagine the glare he was getting from his new spokesman. "No."
"Come on, Hancock. You did a great job taking care of that bank robbery, but now you have to show the public that you're better than the other costumed lunatics running--or flying, or whatever--around out there."
Hancock used every bit of his willpower not to soar away and leave Ray with a brand new sky light in his living room. Instead he turned around and started walking toward the front door. That's what he would have done a few weeks ago. But, despite how annoying he was, Ray's predictions about foiling the bank robbery were dead on.
"You think people are going to like me more if I kill some kid dressed up a spider?"
Ray put his palms up and followed behind Hancock. "Whoa, no one's killing anybody. Just bring him in to custody. A citizen's arrest."
Hancock opened the door and walked outside onto Ray's porch.
"Wait, Hancock," Ray called. "He's one of the most dangerous criminals in New York. If you bring him to justice--without killing anybody!--you'll show the people in LA, and the rest of the world, that you're taking responsibility for this great power you've been given."
Hancock stopped walking and turned his head to the side, not quite looking at Ray. "'Most dangerous?'"
"Well, that's what the Daily Bugle says."
"Fine, but only because I haven't got a chance to change out of this ******** costume you got me."
"Great! It seems that he has the powers of--" Ray started. He was cut off by Hancock disappearing into the clouds.
Spider-Man perched on a perching gargoyle overlooking the New York skyline. He'd been doing this so long that his eyes scanned for danger mostly by instinct, which was good because his thoughts were preoccupied beyond reason. The Lizard had been spotted somewhere in the Village, the Avengers had sent him a message about some extra-dimensional thing--with lots of tentacles, Aunt May had come down with the flu, JJ Jameson had threatened to bar him from working--again. It just wasn't a good day--or week--to be a wall-crawler.
Much as it's always been though, things were about to get a lot worse.
He was interrupted by his thoughts by the tell-tale tingling of his spider sense. He dove off the gargoyle just in time to miss the large, leather clad man flying at him.
Spider-Man shot out a web and swung over to the adjacent building where he watched the stranger arc back toward him.
"Either I haven't been keeping up with the updates to the X-Men roster or you're mst be looking for the BSDM convention. If it's the later I really can't help you."
"You the Spider Man?" Hancock asked.
"What gave it away? The webbed pajamas or the shooting sticky web-like streams . . . Maybe I should point out that I'm not going to the BSDM convention either."
"Ok, you're under arrest."
"Hey, waitaminute. You're that Hancock guy from Cali aren't you?"
"Don't call it Cali."
"The guy who flies around drunk and topples over buildings? And you're
arresting me? I have a kettle and a pot I should introduce you to."
"Ok, that's it. Ray said not to kill you, but he didn't say anything about beating the hell out."
Spider-Man just barely reacted in time to dodge another aerial charge and realized that this guy wouldn't be talked down. As Hancock burst out of the other side of the skyscraper, Spider-Man imagine the Daily Bugle headline of him bringing down LA's most dangerous criminal.
Last round: Lobo Vs. 9. Nick Fury
This round: 4. Hancock v 13. Spider-Man
Round four: 5. ??? v 12. ???
Round five: 2. ??? v 15. ???
Round six: 7. ??? v 10. ???
Round seven: 3. ??? v 14. ???
Round eight: 6. ??? v 11. ???
Who would win? Why? Discuss below.
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I'm sitting this tound out.
The only advantage either has is Spidey's reflexes and Hancock's ability to put entire New York area to rubble, killing Spidey's family and thus weakening him. Which I doubt he will do, so I give this one to Spidey.
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Who made a deal with the devil? Spidey or Hancock?
Who is an old prince? Spidey or Hancock?
weird
Ummm. I've seen Hancock, and I've seen and read lots of Spiderman...
Is Hancock even a comic book character? Is a movie enough to give him a seat in this showdown?
Hancock can:
Fly
Super Strong (think half a superman)
As long as he stays away from Charlise Theron he is nearly invulnerable
Deliver witty banter
Spider can:
Swing
Super strong (think 1/4 superman ~his webbing makes up for any lack of physical strength, it IS as strong as steel)
As long as he stays away from night club dancing he is pretty good in the fight game
Delivers witty banter
I give this one to Hancock only because as far as the movie goes...he would be too physically powerful for Spidey
But I want to say Spidey too, because he has that warrior spirit, the one that tells him to find a way to win even when he is pratically shredded meat
I haven't voted
I am just really surprised at this round...Spidey I believe, what is Hancock doing here?
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This is a tough one. Spidey's taken on guys that are a lot more powerful than him before and come out ahead, but I'm not really sure about a fight with Hancock.
My first instinct is Hancock would win, simply because of his greater destructive power, (eventually he's either going to land a blow or smash something and rubble will take spidey down) but the Spider-Sense makes things more difficult in that regard. This would probably be a long fight because of Hancock's invulnerability, but I think he'd win out in the end.
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Some replies.
@Shaharazad: I provide links to info on each character in their round's bracket spoiler.
@Dimir: Sorry. I didn't want to limit it to one medium. Hope to see you next tound.
@Icecreamman: I was trying to be as tricky as possible. Indominablebug figured out Spider-Man's part and the actor that played Hancock is pretty well known as a "Prince" in the 90s. Get it?
Now with all that out of the way, debate away (please, I'm still on the fence too).
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Spider-Man is a "martial artist", with enhanced speed, agility and strength. Hancock is merely a flying "brick": very tough, very strong, but not particularly versatile in a fight. Martial artists fighting styles tend to use their opponent's strengths against them. That's why people like Batman and Captain America, who are "peak performance" humans, can go toe-to-toe with beings who can toss a car like a football.
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Spidey ISN'T a martial artist though. He's had a bit of combat training from Captain America, but he doesn't use Martial Arts per se, he's just a creative street brawler.
Yes, Hancock is a flying brick, but that's actually what makes him so difficult for Spider-Man to beat. Spidey pretty much can't hurt him (The man got hit by a train and was completely unmoved), and Hancock is strong enough that it would only take one, maybe two good hits to take Spider-man down. Spidey may be fast, but he's not particularly durable. Sure, his super-strength means he has some degree of extra toughness/durability, but not enough to obsolete any kind of powerful strike from an above average human. Hancock's blows would take him out.
Believe me, I want to root for Spidey in this one. But I just can't think of a reason for him to win. Even the old 'web in the eyes' trick isn't going to pull him out, and Hancock's flight is powerful enough to negate any kind of webbing shenanigans.
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Well lets look at it this way, Hancock is not the best Superhero around, why do i say this? because he is reckless in how he does things, so throughout the fight he will destroy something and put people in Danger, Spidey will swing to the rescue which will make Hancock curious, he will ask about the Daily Bugle thing and Spidey will explain things, which will cause Hancock to just give up and go to a bar or something.
Honestly Spidey doesnt always win by fighting, sometimes he outsmarts people, or in this case wears him down long enough for him to explain the misunderstanding, and given the set up if Hancock decides not to arrest him anymore its a win for spidey right?
It's really vague. I was looking for strength in measure of how many Tons he can lift or something along those lines.
I'm going to vote for Spidey on this. Spideys offensive capabilities are not enough to take him out, but his cunning and brains are. He's beaten the Juggernaut before, and I would imagine that Hancock is about on par with Juggies strength and invulnerability.
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I am suprised Ash Williams did not come to you over Hancock for a movie hero. Even though there is a comic series of Army of Darkness.
Well back to subject Spiderman wins this one. Not because he is better known, but because his record at who he defeated. Hancock all he beat is no body thugs. If a second movie came with a real challenge then I might think different.
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I'm not sure hancock is faster in close quarters, more like over distances, but other than that I totally agree with what you're saying.
Spidey just doesn't have a way to win this fight.
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