I hope the blue one is something like:
Kird Bird U
Creature - Bird
If you control a plains Kird Bird gets +1/+0 and flying.
1/1
i lol'd. as good as that would be I have a hard time seeing that being played regularly as WU isn't exactly the optimal color combination for aggro-centric cards or mechanics.
Leatherback Baloth is a great card but not really for Cube. In constructed you can build around that casting cost, but in cube it looks to limiting. But I would love to play a green aggro deck based on playing this bad boy turn 2:o.
Obviously this card will be a force spike a lot of the time, it's a very good X counterspell, how often do you condescend for one. I'm not calling it cubeworthy, but lets not compare it to cancel.
There are very few times where that card is even remotely close to better than a counterspell that already exists. It's beaten by other counters at every casting cost you can cast it at. And the flexibility isn't all that relevant, considering how many good XU counterspells have been printed that aren't in the cube.
Are we only discussing confirmed spoilers? What about this one? Seems interesting.
New Force Spike - 1U
Instant – Uncommon
Multikick U ( You can pay this amount multiple times upon casting )
Counter unless they pay 2.
That's actually not the wording on the "spoiled" card.
I don't think cube would like it on how it is spoiled as is because it's just a cascade counter, not really awesome outside of a cascade environment and only mildly good inside of it.
The new Force Spike seems decent, but I'm with wtwlf here. It's not better than any counter that's currently holding down a slot in the cube. It might find it's way into a larger cube, but I doubt it.
I think smother will make a great addition to the cube
on a more serious note, I think the counterspell is pretty solid, however I am not sure how good it will be. i mean is it worse than a 3 mana hard counter? while 2 mana counters are always awesome, and force spike on turn 2 is pretty good most of the time, is it worth for it to be extremely expensive late game? i am not so sure.
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That beast, the leatherback, is too green. GGG for 4/5 is bad. Being too restrictive in it's cost it goes in only one deck and is outclassed by a wealth of superior creatures.
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Hopefully it's stellar. I'm always down for more good UW cards in the cube.
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Kird Bird U
Creature - Bird
If you control a plains Kird Bird gets +1/+0 and flying.
1/1
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i lol'd. as good as that would be I have a hard time seeing that being played regularly as WU isn't exactly the optimal color combination for aggro-centric cards or mechanics.
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The versatility of 1U Force Spike, 1UU Mana Leak or 1UUU Mana-Leak-for-5 is excellent.
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Yeah, and blaze is worse than lightning blast.
Obviously this card will be a force spike a lot of the time, it's a very good X counterspell, how often do you condescend for one. I'm not calling it cubeworthy, but lets not compare it to cancel.
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I sure hope not.
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New Force Spike - 1U
Instant – Uncommon
Multikick U ( You can pay this amount multiple times upon casting )
Counter unless they pay 2.
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what is the actual functionality of this card?
Counter unless they pay 2
if kicked, do 'some effect not revealed', as many times as you kicked?
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1uu for 'counter unless they pay 2'?
1uuu for 'counter unless they pay 4'?
1uuuu for 'counter unless they pay 6'?
if its the latter, its pretty terrible actually
or is there text missing and its a 1uu mana leak or a 1u force spike? Even that is sub-par.
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That's actually not the wording on the "spoiled" card.
I don't think cube would like it on how it is spoiled as is because it's just a cascade counter, not really awesome outside of a cascade environment and only mildly good inside of it.
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on a more serious note, I think the counterspell is pretty solid, however I am not sure how good it will be. i mean is it worse than a 3 mana hard counter? while 2 mana counters are always awesome, and force spike on turn 2 is pretty good most of the time, is it worth for it to be extremely expensive late game? i am not so sure.
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The first couple of cards arrived - and they are are all good/cubeworthy so far (imo). Why not start the discussion?
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My bet is that it's spoiled wrong. Well - I hope it's spoiled wrong. If it's instant it can be used, if it's sorcery it's useless.
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I'll take Briarhorn over this any day.
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