This is my second edh deck and I think it is going very well, although I want to hear what you guys think so i can improve it some more. I wanted to do something with R and U, and I just recently got a future sight, so I thought I could do Niv-Mizzet + Sensei's Divining Top + Future Sight combo with some other shenanigans.
Since you have an infinite mana combo in there, maybe Invoke the Firemind as a win condition? Nucklavee will also help you get multiple things back from the yard.
Since you have an infinite mana combo in there, maybe Invoke the Firemind as a win condition? Nucklavee will also help you get multiple things back from the yard.
Invoke the Firemind is going to be in here, i just don't have one, and nucklavee costs too much for what it does, is there anything thats cheaper that has the same ability?
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Invoke the Firemind is going to be in here, i just don't have one, and nucklavee costs too much for what it does, is there anything thats cheaper that has the same ability?
If you think Nucklavee is too expensive for what it does, I think you're seriously underestimating it.
6 mana to get a 4/4 body AND get two spells back from the graveyard is a bargain. If you put a Crystal Shard in the deck (which I would highly recommend) Nucklavee gets even more obscene.
Anarchist and Scrivener are 2/2s that only get you 1 spell back, and they only cost 1 less mana. Same deal with the Chronarch you're already running.
Also, why not replace Lava Spike with Lightning Bolt? Then you at least have some spot removal if you don't have the rest of your combo pieces.
If you think Nucklavee is too expensive for what it does, I think you're seriously underestimating it.
6 mana to get a 4/4 body AND get two spells back from the graveyard is a bargain. If you put a Crystal Shard in the deck (which I would highly recommend) Nucklavee gets even more obscene.
Anarchist and Scrivener are 2/2s that only get you 1 spell back, and they only cost 1 less mana. Same deal with the Chronarch you're already running.
Also, why not replace Lava Spike with Lightning Bolt? Then you at least have some spot removal if you don't have the rest of your combo pieces.
Since you're already playing Brine Elemental you could play Vesuvan Shapeshifter, they combo well together and a reusable clone is always good.
Curiosity, Ophidian Eye and Mind Over Matter combo perfectly with Niv-Mizzet, allowing you to draw your whole deck and kill the table.You can usualy kill 2 people with the card in your library and finishing of the third one with Conflagrate.
Hinder is a must in every blue EDH deck.It stop Life from the loam shenanigan, counter Genesis and other incarnation without sending them to the graveyard and more importently get rid of an opponent general for good.
Tunnel Vision allow you to instant-kill someone with Spin into the Myth and Hinder if you fell like it.
High Market should be in every deck with less then 3 color.It doesn't hurt your mana base and give you a free sacrifice outlet.
I forgot about the splice interaction to go infinite.
How often do you really see all three pieces out at the same time though? That's why I'm skeptical of Lava Spike. If you don't have the combo it's an extremely weak card for EDH.
It would be more effective to use your Ashnod's Altar infinite mana combo to power off infinite Fanning the Flames, since you can reuse FtF even if you can't go infinite.
Also, I don't know what your meta is like, but if you're playing against reasonably skilled players, Browbeat shouldn't be very effective. You have no control over where the 5 damage goes, so it probably goes to the player with the highest life total, meaning it has the least possible effect. Only a dense group of players is going to let you draw three cards, thereby dealing 3 damage that you get to assign as you like.
I forgot about the splice interaction to go infinite.
How often do you really see all three pieces out at the same time though? That's why I'm skeptical of Lava Spike. If you don't have the combo it's an extremely weak card for EDH.
It would be more effective to use your Ashnod's Altar infinite mana combo to power off infinite Fanning the Flames, since you can reuse FtF even if you can't go infinite.
Also, I don't know what your meta is like, but if you're playing against reasonably skilled players, Browbeat shouldn't be very effective. You have no control over where the 5 damage goes, so it probably goes to the player with the highest life total, meaning it has the least possible effect. Only a dense group of players is going to let you draw three cards, thereby dealing 3 damage that you get to assign as you like.
In multiplayer, how exactly does a card like [c]Browbeat[-/c] work? Does every one go in a circle and say whether they want to pay the life or does everyone have to decide and reveal their decisions all at once? If its the second way, it might be good, since its a collective action problem (i.e. nobody wants to be the one to take the damage if someone else can take it, although nobody wants you to have the three cards either)
In multiplayer, how exactly does a card like [c]Browbeat[-/c] work? Does every one go in a circle and say whether they want to pay the life or does everyone have to decide and reveal their decisions all at once? If its the second way, it might be good, since its a collective action problem (i.e. nobody wants to be the one to take the damage if someone else can take it, although nobody wants you to have the three cards either)
Technically speaking, each player makes the decision in turn order.
Practically speaking, the opponents often just come to a decision on who's going to take the lumps.
Edit: On a related note, be aware that Telling Time does not trigger Niv Mizzet. Putting a card in your hand is not considered drawing unless the word "draw" is specifically used.
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Planeswalker (1)
2 Jace Beleren
Creatures (16)
3 Academy Researchers
4 Anarchist
5 Arcanis the Omnipotent
6 Keiga, the Tide Star
7 Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
8 Djinn Illuminatus
9 Duplicant
10 Etherium Sculptor
11 Izzet Chronarch
12 Ryusei, the Falling Star
13 Mulldrifter
14 Myojin of the Seeing Winds
15 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
16 Trinket Mage
17 Voidmage Husher
18 Draining Whelk
Instants (27)
19 Arcane Denial
20 Brainstorm
21 Cancel
22 Capsize
23 Careful Consideration
24 Commandeer
25 Counterspell
26 Double Negative
27 Electrolyze
28 Faerie Trickery
29 Fire/Ice
30 Forbid
31 Hinder
32 Impulse
33 Long-Term Plans
34 Mystical Tutor
35 Negate
36 Overwhelming Intellect
37 Reiterate
38 Rewind
39 Scattering Stroke
40 Spin into Myth
41 Swerve
42 Thirst for Knowledge
43 Trickbind
44 Fact or Fiction
45 Word of Seizing
46 Time Warp
47 Conflagrate
48 Ancestral Vision
49 Blatant Thievery
50 Compulsive Research
51 Ponder
52 Tidings
53 Invoke the Firemind
Enchantment (4)
54 Confiscate
55 Fool's Demise
56 Future Sight
57 Thought Reflection
Artifacts (11)
58 Ashnod's Altar
59 Coalition Relic
60 Gauntlet of Power
61 Gilded Lotus
62 Isochron Scepter
63 Izzet Signet
64 Mind's Eye
65 Pithing Needle
66 Scroll Rack
67 Sensei's Divining Top
68 Thran Dynamo
Lands(32)
69 Cascade Bluffs
70 Island
71 Island
72 Island
73 Island
74 Island
75 Island
76 Island
77 Island
78 Island
79 Island
80 Island
81 Island
82 Island
83 Island
84 Island
85 Island
86 Izzet Boilerworks
87 Mountain
88 Mountain
89 Mountain
90 Mountain
91 Mountain
92 Mountain
93 Mountain
94 Mountain
95 Mountain
96 Reliquary Tower
97 Spinerock Knoll
98 Steam Vents
99 Strip Mine
100 Vesuva
Let me know what you guys think
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
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I'm not sure what the appeal of Arcane Denial is. Dismiss seems much stronger.
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If I had an opportunity I would be running it lol, right now im using lavaspike with desperate ritual and izzet guildmage to do infinite damage to every player. Thanks for the advice
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Uril, the Miststalker RGW
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Invoke the Firemind is going to be in here, i just don't have one, and nucklavee costs too much for what it does, is there anything thats cheaper that has the same ability?
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
Anarchist gets you back a sorcery for 5
Scrivener gets you back an instant for 5
Nucklavee has proven quite useful for me. Although Relearn would probably fit the bill just as easily if you don't need the body.
If you think Nucklavee is too expensive for what it does, I think you're seriously underestimating it.
6 mana to get a 4/4 body AND get two spells back from the graveyard is a bargain. If you put a Crystal Shard in the deck (which I would highly recommend) Nucklavee gets even more obscene.
Anarchist and Scrivener are 2/2s that only get you 1 spell back, and they only cost 1 less mana. Same deal with the Chronarch you're already running.
Also, why not replace Lava Spike with Lightning Bolt? Then you at least have some spot removal if you don't have the rest of your combo pieces.
Crystal Shard is going to be in here too, I'll try it out with Nucklavee for a bit and see how it goes. I run Lava Spike instead of Lightning Bolt because lava spike combos off with desperate ritual and Izzet Guildmage, but im considering running both lava spike and lightning bolt in my deck
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
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Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
Curiosity, Ophidian Eye and Mind Over Matter combo perfectly with Niv-Mizzet, allowing you to draw your whole deck and kill the table.You can usualy kill 2 people with the card in your library and finishing of the third one with Conflagrate.
Hinder is a must in every blue EDH deck.It stop Life from the loam shenanigan, counter Genesis and other incarnation without sending them to the graveyard and more importently get rid of an opponent general for good.
Tunnel Vision allow you to instant-kill someone with Spin into the Myth and Hinder if you fell like it.
High Market should be in every deck with less then 3 color.It doesn't hurt your mana base and give you a free sacrifice outlet.
Keiga, the tide star and his little brother Ryusei, the falling star are just great, giving you some defence (or offense?).Also nobody usualy want to kill them ;).
I could continue like that for days but i'll stop here for now ;).
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I forgot about the splice interaction to go infinite.
How often do you really see all three pieces out at the same time though? That's why I'm skeptical of Lava Spike. If you don't have the combo it's an extremely weak card for EDH.
It would be more effective to use your Ashnod's Altar infinite mana combo to power off infinite Fanning the Flames, since you can reuse FtF even if you can't go infinite.
Also, I don't know what your meta is like, but if you're playing against reasonably skilled players, Browbeat shouldn't be very effective. You have no control over where the 5 damage goes, so it probably goes to the player with the highest life total, meaning it has the least possible effect. Only a dense group of players is going to let you draw three cards, thereby dealing 3 damage that you get to assign as you like.
Compulsive Research is probably a better option even though it makes you discard. Overwhelming Intellect could also be very powerful in this deck.
I see your point, I'll probably take it out for more cards that make me draw like Compulsive Research, Thirst For Knowledge and Careful Consideration, I also like Overwhelming Intellect so im going to see how I can fit that in, thank you so much for the advice and i hope you continue helping me out with the deck
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
Under Construction
Technically speaking, each player makes the decision in turn order.
Practically speaking, the opponents often just come to a decision on who's going to take the lumps.
Edit: On a related note, be aware that Telling Time does not trigger Niv Mizzet. Putting a card in your hand is not considered drawing unless the word "draw" is specifically used.
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Azami, Lady of the Scrolls U
Uril, the Miststalker RGW
Casual
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