So I'm a pretty casual EDH player and I browsed the Niv Mizzet decks and I noticed the lack of something: no deathtouch equipment (sorry I missed someone's!). Even though there's only 3 deathtouch giving equipments, just one of them in play makes your pingers lethal (and I love them on Wojek Embermage to get those shrouded guys!) So I've decided to take on this pretty popular general, but make my own twist... one of my favorite things that red and blue does... since the beginning of Magic-PING! So I introduce to you, Niv-Pingzzit!
Yea, those random pingers were the last to NOT be cut... consider them all gone... maybe a Mawcor replacing the Pirate Ship.
Brine Elemental is in there solely for the pickles lock. I'm not sure how much "combo" I would want to run... I could run the Kiki-Jiki/Pestermite combo (and Pestermite even works well with my PING theme untapping a pinger!), but I'm not positive if I want that in there (I'm not a huge fan of infinite combos.
Scarecrone is in there for the Mindslaver lock... also gets back my deathtouch equipments if an opponent destroys them. Scarecrone really doesn't need any other scarecrows to go with it (I mean to be good).
Drift of Phantasms is a good idea! It gives me another way to fetch Quietus Spike!
I do have a Kira and I was debating on the countering of the equipments. Ideally I want to be able to ping, move equipment, ping, and repeat. Kira would make that cost WAY too much. I did have him in the deck list and then pulled him out.
As for the others, I'm pretty budget so Cryptic, Tutor, and core are a little out of my price range (although if I had them, I would run them!).
I have a Spikeshot Goblin, but it doesn't seem like he would ever ping for more than 1 (barring a Sword of Kaldra), so I cut him. I'm also pretty scarred of Auras that don't win me the game automatically (allow a ton of pings with Niv). I prefer the artifacts since they don't die when creature removal is played (even though Umbral Mantle and Staff cost more to untap, and TYE only untaps once, I prefer them and their utility).
Sword of Kaldra and Neko-Te are awesome, I'm adding them in. Charisma is neat, but I'm not a fan of stealing. Besides, I wouldn't want to create more of a target on Niv than necessary. Thanks for the suggestions!
Sigil of Sleep would be the perfect card for your deck with all those pingers!
Again, I'm not a huge fan of auras... just the inheirent card disadvantage they can cause (although I haven't play tested this deck yet so maybe card advantage isn't such a concern?).
Changes:
-1 Pirate Ship>+Drift of Phantasms
-1 Embermage Goblin>+Pestermite
-1 Viashino Fangtail>+Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
-1 Ghost-Lit Raider>+Sword of Kaldra
-1 Sphinx of the Lost Truths>+Neko-Te
You don't want anymore of Ghost-lit Raider? It seemd like a good card. Don't forget that it's an uncounterable removal thanks to its channel ability.
I think Neko-Te is a bit expensive in term of mana for what it does.
Also, your mana curve is quite high and I'm afraid that you might often have high-cost cards (5+ mana) in hand and can't play them. If that is a problem, you could try Compulsion, Merfolk Looter, Thought Courier.
OMG, thank you for pointing that out! I never noticed that about Scarecrone! Okay, I'll update the deck and put Ghost-Lit Raider back in.
-Scarecrone>+Ghost-Lit Raider
-Mindslaver>+Fact or Fiction
As for Neko-Te, the nice part about it's secondary effect is it allows you to use Niv-Mizzet to kill with less card (when you get Curiousity or Ophidian Eye on him). It allows you to deal 40 damage for drawing 20 cards... which is probably 3 players dead right there (probably have 60 cards left in your deck) as opposed to needing to draw 40 cards to deal 40 damage and maybe being able to kill 2 players (but maybe not).
Without any reanimation, I"m not a big fan of the looting effects.
Hmph, I play FoF in all my EDH decks... I must have overlooked that when putting the list online. Do you think Anarchist is worth having in there with only 5 sorceries to retrieve? Maybe Scrivener is better, although it can't get Time Stretch. Is Tidespout Tyrant worth playing in order to take "infinite" turns via TT, Anarchist/Chronarch, and Time Stretch?
I took out some of the more expensive cards for cheaper, on theme cards:
-Comet Storm>+Crystal Shard
-Invoke the Firemind>+Aphetto Alchemist (wow, almost as good as Fatestitcher, just can't hit lands!)
I'm still looking to get a Sharpshooter... any other suggestions?
Current deck list:
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Creatures (32):
1 Aphetto Alchemist
1 Razorfin Hunter
1 Trinket Mage
1 Prodigal Sorcerer
1 Zuran Spellcaster
1 Rootwater Hunter
1 Pestermite
1 Suq'Ata Firewalker
1 Thornwind Faeries
1 Prodigal Pyromancer
1 Vithian Stinger
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Vulshok Sorcerer
1 Drift of Phantasms
1 Gelectrode
1 Ghost-Lit Raider
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Fledgling Mawcor
1 Fatestitcher
1 Frostwielder
1 Wojek Embermage
1 Jeska, Warrior Adept
1 Anarchist
1 Mulldrifter
1 Izzet Chronarch
1 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
1 Kumano, Master Yamabushi
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Duplicant
1 Kamahl, Pit Fighter
1 Brine Elemental
1 Arcanis the Omnipotent
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Sol Ring
1 Curiosity
1 Gorgon Flail
1 Izzet Signet
1 Mindstone
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Coalition Relic
1 Quietus Spike
1 Thousand-Year Elixir
1 Staff of Domination
1 Umbral Mantle
1 Neko-Te
1 Crystal Shard
1 Fabricate
1 Ophidian Eye
1 Forbid
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Sword of Kaldra
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Concentrate
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Tidings
1 Capsize
1 Mind Over Matter
1 Time Stretch
14 Island
14 Mountain
1 Smoldering Crater
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Forgotten Cave
1 Remote Isle
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Great Furnace
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Riptide Laboratory
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Thawing Glaciers
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Creatures (33):
1 Razorfin Hunter
1 Scarecrone
1 Trinket Mage
1 Prodigal Sorcerer
1 Zuran Spellcaster
1 Rootwater Hunter
1 Suq'Ata Firewalker
1 Thornwind Faeries
1 Prodigal Pyromancer
1 Vithian Stinger
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Vulshok Sorcerer
1 Ghost-Lit Raider
1 Gelectrode
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Fledgling Mawcor
1 Fatestitcher
1 Embermage Goblin
1 Frostwielder
1 Wojek Embermage
1 Viashino Fangtail
1 Jeska, Warrior Adept
1 Anarchist
1 Pirate Ship
1 Mulldrifter
1 Izzet Chronarch
1 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
1 Kumano, Master Yamabushi
1 Duplicant
1 Kamahl, Pit Fighter
1 Brine Elemental
1 Arcanis the Omnipotent
1 Sphinx of the Lost Truths
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Sol Ring
1 Curiousity
1 Gorgon Flail
1 Izzet Signet
1 Mindstone
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Coalition Relic
1 Quietus Spike
1 Thousand-Year Elixir
1 Staff of Domination
1 Umbral Mantle
1 Fabricate
1 Ophidian Eye
1 Forbid
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Concentrate
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Tidings
1 Mindslaver
1 Capsize
1 Mind Over Matter
1 Time Stretch
1 Invoke the Firemind
1 Comet Storm
14 Island
14 Mountain
1 Smoldering Crater
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Forgotten Cave
1 Remote Isle
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Great Furnace
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Riptide Laboratory
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Thawing Glaciers
Any suggestions?
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Yea, those random pingers were the last to NOT be cut... consider them all gone... maybe a Mawcor replacing the Pirate Ship.
Brine Elemental is in there solely for the pickles lock. I'm not sure how much "combo" I would want to run... I could run the Kiki-Jiki/Pestermite combo (and Pestermite even works well with my PING theme untapping a pinger!), but I'm not positive if I want that in there (I'm not a huge fan of infinite combos.
Scarecrone is in there for the Mindslaver lock... also gets back my deathtouch equipments if an opponent destroys them. Scarecrone really doesn't need any other scarecrows to go with it (I mean to be good).
Drift of Phantasms is a good idea! It gives me another way to fetch Quietus Spike!
I do have a Kira and I was debating on the countering of the equipments. Ideally I want to be able to ping, move equipment, ping, and repeat. Kira would make that cost WAY too much. I did have him in the deck list and then pulled him out.
As for the others, I'm pretty budget so Cryptic, Tutor, and core are a little out of my price range (although if I had them, I would run them!).
Thanks for your suggestions!
*Mayreturn*
I have some EDH cards and rare Magic basic lands (APAC, EURO, ARENA, etc) so message me if you're looking.
Number of members banned after I posted a BTR: 7
Looking for honest buyers, sellers, and traders.
I have a Spikeshot Goblin, but it doesn't seem like he would ever ping for more than 1 (barring a Sword of Kaldra), so I cut him. I'm also pretty scarred of Auras that don't win me the game automatically (allow a ton of pings with Niv). I prefer the artifacts since they don't die when creature removal is played (even though Umbral Mantle and Staff cost more to untap, and TYE only untaps once, I prefer them and their utility).
Sword of Kaldra and Neko-Te are awesome, I'm adding them in. Charisma is neat, but I'm not a fan of stealing. Besides, I wouldn't want to create more of a target on Niv than necessary. Thanks for the suggestions!
Again, I'm not a huge fan of auras... just the inheirent card disadvantage they can cause (although I haven't play tested this deck yet so maybe card advantage isn't such a concern?).
Changes:
-1 Pirate Ship>+Drift of Phantasms
-1 Embermage Goblin>+Pestermite
-1 Viashino Fangtail>+Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
-1 Ghost-Lit Raider>+Sword of Kaldra
-1 Sphinx of the Lost Truths>+Neko-Te
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Creatures (33):
1 Razorfin Hunter
1 Scarecrone
1 Trinket Mage
1 Prodigal Sorcerer
1 Zuran Spellcaster
1 Rootwater Hunter
1 Pestermite
1 Suq'Ata Firewalker
1 Thornwind Faeries
1 Prodigal Pyromancer
1 Vithian Stinger
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Vulshok Sorcerer
1 Drift of Phantasms
1 Gelectrode
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Fledgling Mawcor
1 Fatestitcher
1 Frostwielder
1 Wojek Embermage
1 Jeska, Warrior Adept
1 Anarchist
1 Mulldrifter
1 Izzet Chronarch
1 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
1 Kumano, Master Yamabushi
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Duplicant
1 Kamahl, Pit Fighter
1 Brine Elemental
1 Arcanis the Omnipotent
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Sol Ring
1 Curiousity
1 Gorgon Flail
1 Izzet Signet
1 Mindstone
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Coalition Relic
1 Quietus Spike
1 Thousand-Year Elixir
1 Staff of Domination
1 Umbral Mantle
1 Neko-Te
1 Fabricate
1 Ophidian Eye
1 Forbid
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Sword of Kaldra
1 Concentrate
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Tidings
1 Mindslaver
1 Capsize
1 Mind Over Matter
1 Time Stretch
1 Invoke the Firemind
1 Comet Storm
14 Island
14 Mountain
1 Smoldering Crater
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Forgotten Cave
1 Remote Isle
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Great Furnace
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Riptide Laboratory
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Thawing Glaciers
*Mayreturn*
I have some EDH cards and rare Magic basic lands (APAC, EURO, ARENA, etc) so message me if you're looking.
Number of members banned after I posted a BTR: 7
Looking for honest buyers, sellers, and traders.
OMG, thank you for pointing that out! I never noticed that about Scarecrone! Okay, I'll update the deck and put Ghost-Lit Raider back in.
-Scarecrone>+Ghost-Lit Raider
-Mindslaver>+Fact or Fiction
As for Neko-Te, the nice part about it's secondary effect is it allows you to use Niv-Mizzet to kill with less card (when you get Curiousity or Ophidian Eye on him). It allows you to deal 40 damage for drawing 20 cards... which is probably 3 players dead right there (probably have 60 cards left in your deck) as opposed to needing to draw 40 cards to deal 40 damage and maybe being able to kill 2 players (but maybe not).
Without any reanimation, I"m not a big fan of the looting effects.
Hmph, I play FoF in all my EDH decks... I must have overlooked that when putting the list online. Do you think Anarchist is worth having in there with only 5 sorceries to retrieve? Maybe Scrivener is better, although it can't get Time Stretch. Is Tidespout Tyrant worth playing in order to take "infinite" turns via TT, Anarchist/Chronarch, and Time Stretch?
*Mayreturn*
I have some EDH cards and rare Magic basic lands (APAC, EURO, ARENA, etc) so message me if you're looking.
Number of members banned after I posted a BTR: 7
Looking for honest buyers, sellers, and traders.
-Comet Storm>+Crystal Shard
-Invoke the Firemind>+Aphetto Alchemist (wow, almost as good as Fatestitcher, just can't hit lands!)
I'm still looking to get a Sharpshooter... any other suggestions?
*Mayreturn*
I have some EDH cards and rare Magic basic lands (APAC, EURO, ARENA, etc) so message me if you're looking.
Number of members banned after I posted a BTR: 7
Looking for honest buyers, sellers, and traders.