If you have any suggestions for card additions or subtractions please post, trying to make the best commons/uncommons cube I can.
Updates:
4/20/10 - Major changes, including ROE cards. See post #28 for the list.
10/22/10 - Extremely large change for M11, Scars, and just general card changes. Also changed to Realistic Categorization. List on post #39.
10/23/10 - Added early green aggro creatures, Kird ape and Loam Lion also make their return under the new categorization.
5/5/12 - A Year and a half later I finally post Updates through Avacyn Restored. Too many updates during that time to post change log. Images added. 100% foiled for all cards that can be foiled (455 of the 480 can be foiled). Beginning Signature Process.
Looks good from scanning it quickly. When you get the time you should organize the list by CMC, creatures, and non-creatures (and post pics!). It makes critiquing much easier.
All I can say about the potential power cards is that I've personally chosen to exclude Sol Ring from my cube. Any deck can play it. It sets you ahead two turns. There's no common or uncommon that competes with it in power.
Looks good from scanning it quickly. When you get the time you should organize the list by CMC, creatures, and non-creatures (and post pics!). It makes critiquing much easier.
All I can say about the potential power cards is that I've personally chosen to exclude Sol Ring from my cube. Any deck can play it. It sets you ahead two turns. There's no common or uncommon that competes with it in power.
it's true. even within a full fledge cube, our local area has basically said that it's literally the best first pick, even over ancestral recall. but I personally want to try it out for awhile. If people complain then I'll probably cut it for something else.
I'll probably sort the list sometime tomorrow when I get the chance, I just wanted to get tags up first to make it a little easier on myself as well.
there was one more cycle I was working on. I wanted to make a cycle of figurehead lands for each color.
White: ???
Blue: Cephalid Colissium/Tolaria West
Black: Cabal Coffers
Red: Barbarian Ring
Green: Pendlehaven
I just can't figure out white's land. I've looked over the lists and can't think of anything comparable. the only thought I had was Daru Encampment. Although I really wish Kjeldoran Outpost was uncommon.
I'll also post a list of cards that I kinda want to add to the cube or that just barely got cut.
I can understand trying out cards even if you clearly know they are unfair. In that case you should try out Mind Twist in black and Rolling Thunder in red.
First, if you want any serious discussion on your cube, use card tags. This is especially important in "odd" cubes that will be using cards most people aren't framilar with. All you have to do is add [*cards] to the beginning and [*/cards] to the end of each of your lists.
For your lands question, use Faerie Conclave as the blue one.
What are your cube's themes? Do you want strong white agro, do you want black to be a control or agressive color? How much do you want to stress/destress multicolored decks? What are they key archetypes you want people tod raft? These are important cube questions.
I'm not a big fan of an even 60 card split between everything. That means your going to see as many multicolored cards as your going to see white cards. That seems wrong to me.
I'm not a big fan of the borderposts. That being said they should go in the multicolor section, not artifact section.
I would post a more indepth review, but I don't know what many of these cards are.
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First, if you want any serious discussion on your cube, use card tags. This is especially important in "odd" cubes that will be using cards most people aren't framilar with. All you have to do is add [*cards] to the beginning and [*/cards] to the end of each of your lists.
For your lands question, use Faerie Conclave as the blue one.
What are your cube's themes? Do you want strong white agro, do you want black to be a control or agressive color? How much do you want to stress/destress multicolored decks? What are they key archetypes you want people tod raft? These are important cube questions.
I'm not a big fan of an even 60 card split between everything. That means your going to see as many multicolored cards as your going to see white cards. That seems wrong to me.
I'm not a big fan of the borderposts. That being said they should go in the multicolor section, not artifact section.
I would post a more indepth review, but I don't know what many of these cards are.
I tried posting them in but it was giving me weird scripts, that's why I asked if anyone knows the fix for it (seems to be since they switched card viewers the batch card list maker has had issues). I went a head and tried it again with the lands. click the land spoiler to see what I mean by weird scripts.
I have faerie conclave in there, along with treetop village, and ghitu encampment. I didn't include the white and black, as they honestly aren't very good.
White aggro should be very strong, with many 1 & 2 drops with 2+ power, and either evasion/first strike/useful ability. it's backed up by quite a few repeat tap effects.
black & green I took away their early drops to support more of the discard/reanimator/control theme & ramp into beats and efficient midrange/evasion creatures respectively.
Red took the other aggressive color, and focused heavily on burn and haste creatures. there's also side theme of land destruction and field sweepers.
blue is fairly standard for control/draw, however for it's primary creatures I tried to focus on flying fatties so they could regain ground against white and push damage vs the other colors.
I'd like my cube to be fairly balanced so people can focus on mono-colored (or mono + splash) while still having the availability to go 3+ colors (why many of the artifacts and lands focus on fixing) to make use of the multicolored spells.
I'm trying out the borderposts for now, as I saw them in my friends cube and they do really help with fixing. the reason they're the only colored artifacts is because they are a complete and balanced cycle between each color, and normally do not require colored mana to be cast. that and multicolored (especially allied colors) tends to be really tight as it is. if I find people don't want to draft them then I'll probably remove them for other things.
so I've been attempting to sort the card lists, but they might be currently working on the tags for the site to attempt to fix problems, so the tags aren't currently working.
so far White & blue are sorted by type & cost. black is finished as well, but tags are messed up.
One thing that I did in my U/C cube was to limit the quantity of 4/4 flyers. Originally I had something like 12 of them in the cube, and just I didn't like how many games ended up with an Air Elemental and Stratozeppelid squaring off against a Serra Angel and a Morroi. So I took out a few, most notably replacing Moroii with Blizzard Specter, and Stratozeppelid with Riftwing Cloudskate. This increased the value of Serra Angel and the inticement to play 3 colors in Tower Gargloyle.
At the moment I'm considering swapping out Sengir Vampire for Fallen Angel, which I find more flavorful.
One thing that I did in my U/C cube was to limit the quantity of 4/4 flyers. Originally I had something like 12 of them in the cube, and just I didn't like how many games ended up with an Air Elemental and Stratozeppelid squaring off against a Serra Angel and a Morroi. So I took out a few, most notably replacing Moroii with Blizzard Specter, and Stratozeppelid with Riftwing Cloudskate. This increased the value of Serra Angel and the inticement to play 3 colors in Tower Gargloyle.
At the moment I'm considering swapping out Sengir Vampire for Fallen Angel, which I find more flavorful.
What do you guys think?
hmm. might be worth a try, although sengir is one of the few cards that can go toe-to-toe with white's volume of flyers. I might cut back a little, probably take out air-elemental itself but leave in jetting glasskite & living tsunami.
I did also make a couple quick changes today:
-kiss of the amesha
+Sky hussar
-Murderous Redcap
+[card]Fire covenant
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so I realized today that I've never truely looked at sky hussar's stats or even his forecast ability, just his comboing with kiki-jiki. apparently he's a fairly weel stated 4/3 that can draw you extra cards, who knew?
also found out fire covenant is uncommon and not rare.
Probably Fire Covenant unfortunately. If you really want to try that card out (I know that's the one you just added in) Blightning and Wrecking Ball would be the next ones on the list.
You can't remove Terminate, Bit Blast or Redcap... those are the 3 best BR cards for your cube. Id probably just not add in the Covenant and use the other 5.
hmm, as much as I like wrecking ball (and that I already have a foil of it), probably will try fire covenant in place of it. If my drafters don't seem to like it, or it's too big a blow out (for about 5 life it can be an instant speed *** for 3 mana) then I'll probably switch it back.
so I did a ton of trading today instead of playing at fnm. up to 1/3rd the cube foiled out. still waiting on the last few cards to arrive by mail (Maze, chainer's, Su-chi, Fellwar stone, & fire imp). one of my friends is going to let me at a giant stack of common/uncommon foils tomorrow (today I guess) before he sells them at a ptq.
I did end up keeping murderous redcap and dropping wrecking ball. think I'll leave kiss out for the moment unless someone can give me a good reason why to keep it in compared to: sky hussar, azorious guildmage, plumeveil, silkbind faerie, & wall of denial.
also added berserk, force of will, and sylvan library to the cube tonight.
decided on seijri steppe as the white "power" land
still trying to figure out the red "power" card. honestly I might just claim it too be bolt and be done with it. -.-
need to find replacements for teetering peeks, bojuka bog, cephalid colliseum, & khalni garden. perferably colorless lands.
I plan on fixing the formatting of the first post later today, and probably take pictures of the cube on sunday.
Almost finished sorting all of the cards by color - type - name (for gold, artifact, and land they're sorted by groupings).
Took pictures, but my new compute lacks the proper SD slot for my camera, so I need to find the usb cord before I can host them, but should be up shortly. Sadly I still have a few proxies as my card orders haven't arrived yet, and I wasn't able to look through my friend's proxies today, so hopefully next time some week I'll have updated pictures with no proxies & more foils.
I still can't get the card tags to work so you can view a cards by clicking the links, but the rest of the tags seem to be fixed. please, if anyone knows how to get the card tags working plase post and tell me as I really want to get the cards hyperlinked.
in the future I'm planning on dropping the majority of the reanimation spells from back (keeping a few like reanimate). If you have any suggestions for what should go in their place, or a specific theme that should replace them, I'm looking for suggestions.
thanks again for your patience while I get past the formatting issues.
Edit:
Finished updating lists & uploaded pictures. currently card list & picture order for Artifacts & lands are not the same, will be fixed when I take new pictures next week. also sorry about some of the blurry pictures, I really need to buy a new camera at some point.
Edit: got more foils. about 40 away from having 50% of the cube foiled out.
Edit 2: Finally got card scripts working, however lost the links to the previous pictures, and when I re-uploaded them they decided to turn the green and artifact pictures and rotate them 90 degrees. will work on reuploading them to post again later.
Everything else seems in order, and I'll begin working hard on fixing up black.
made a few changes to the list. dropped most of the reanimation spells in black and added early aggro creatures like lacerator, carnophage, and skittering skirge. I'll post the official changes when I get home later tonight.
I'm also currently working on adding foil proxies for the cards that I cannot get foiled (such as control magic and force of will), so I'll be spending most of my time attempting to perfect that process to make them look as good as possible. I'll post pictures of my progress.
As a side note, I found the absolute cutest squirrel token in the proxy thread, so now I want to find a card that makes squirrel tokens so I can use the token in the cube >.>;; any suggestions?
Major change up for black. lost alot of the reanimator theme (although key cards like reanimate, unearth, makshift mannequin, and Life//Death remain), and added in an early black creature presence, including some additional discard support in augur and interrogator. also seal of doom to fill in the enchantment slot a little bit with solid removal, and contagion as an interesting combat trick. If you have any additional black aggro creatures you think should be in here, please suggest them.
The egg just wasn't doing what red wants to do, and everyone likes more removal If I see that pyrokinesis is being under utilized I'll be switching it out with cone of flame.
Well, as much as I love the trip token maker, it doesn't seem enough and I couldn't find anything else to cut in green. if you have any suggestions for a different cut inplace of bestial menace please suggest it. I just wanted to make room for Squirrel nest as suggested by Klug & bizzaro so I can make use of my awesome squirrel tokens.
That should bring everything upto date beside pictures. should have new pictures up this weekend.
Don't cut Bestial Menace, the card is six power for five spread over three bodies.
Better cards to cut in my opinion:
1 or both Fyndhorn Elder - if this comes down on turn three, there are a few cards you can accelerate to but all together I'd rather have a less vulnerable Kodama's Reach or Explosive Vegetation. Beast Attack - this card is cute, but a 4/4 for 5 is below average these days, even at instant speed. It's also a pretty heavy color commitment. Fine but not great. Roar of the Wurm - without a discard outlet this card is terrible. Mold Shambler - without Planeswalkers around this is a worse Acidic Slime. You don't need both. Baloth Woodcrasher - a cool beater that I tried out, but he's altogether too expensive coupled with a lot more removal spells floating around. Hunted Wumpus - an interesting concept. It's going to feel really bad when your opponent gets a free Shriekmaw, Nekrataal, Man-o'-War, etc;
Also, I mentioned on my thread about reanimation spells - they're good even if you're not supporting a linear theme. Pretty sure Animate Dead and Necromancy are better than Reanimate. The life loss is relevant as control decks are going to want the reanimation most of the time. Getting a Persist creature, Shriekmaw, Mulldrifter, Eternal Witness, etc, back can be really crushing.
1 Elite Vanguard
1 Gideon's Lawkeeper
1 Goldmeadow Harrier
1 Mother of Runes
1 Sunscape Apprentice
//2 CMC
1 Cloistered Youth
1 Kami of Ancient Law
1 Knight of Cliffhaven
1 Knight of Glory
1 Kor Skyfisher
1 Lone Missionary
1 Ronom Unicorn
1 Squadron Hawk
1 Wall of Omens
1 Kazandu Blademaster
1 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Soltari Monk
1 Soltari Priest
1 Whipcorder
1 Aven Riftwatcher
1 Kor Hookmaster
1 Kor Sanctifiers
1 Porcelain Legionnaire
1 Stonecloaker
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Flickerwisp
//4 CMC
1 Guardian of the Guildpact
1 Goldnight Commander
1 Master Splicer
1 Calciderm
1 Glimmerpoint Stag
1 Seraph of Dawn
1 Shepherd of the Lost
1 Belfrey Spirit
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Serra Angel
1 Cloudshift
1 Condemn
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Raise the Alarm
1 Midnight Haunting
1 Miraculous Recovery
1 Gather the Townsfolk
1 Timely Reinforcements
1 Cenn's Enlistment
1 Battle Screech
1 Spectral Procession
//Artifacts
1 Shrine of Loyal Legions
//Enchantments
1 Land Tax
1 Intangible Virtue
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Temporal Isolation
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Prison Term
1 Diversionary Tactics
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Honden of Cleansing Fire
1 Delver of Secrets
1 Enclave Cryptologist
1 Stormscape Apprentice
//2CMC
1 Augur of Bolas
1 Looter il-Kor
1 Merfolk Looter
//3 CMC
1 Fettergeist
1 Man-o'-War
1 Serendib Efreet
1 Tandem Lookout
1 Æther Adept
1 Calcite Snapper
1 Spiketail Drakeling
1 Clone
1 Ninja of the Deep Hours
1 Wing Splicer
1 Archaeomancer
1 Thieving Magpie
//5 CMC
1 Mnemonic Wall
1 Mulldrifter
1 Murder of Crows
1 Riftwing cloudskate
1 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Daze
1 Impulse
1 Into the Roil
1 Mana Leak
1 Miscalculation
1 Remand
1 Counterspell
1 Withdraw
1 Complicate
1 Exclude
1 Ghostly Flicker
1 Psionic Blast
1 Repulse
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Capsize
1 Forbid
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Careful Consideration
1 Dismiss
1 Gush
1 Force of Will
1 Condescend
1 Repeal
1 Dominate
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
1 Compulsive Research
1 Wash Out
1 Concentrate
1 Taldand's Invocation
//Artifacts
1 Crystal Shard
//Enchantments
1 Flood
1 Narcolepsy
1 Propaganda
1 Control Magic
1 Honden of Seeing Winds
1 Fume Spitter
1 Nightscape Apprentice
//2CMC
1 Augur of Skulls
1 Knight of Infamy
1 Mesmeric Fiend
1 Nezumi Graverobber
1 Ravenous Rats
1 Gatekeeper of Malakir
//3 CMC
1 Bone Shredder
1 Demonic Taskmaster
1 Screeching Bat
1 Hypnotic Specter
1 Liliana's Specter
1 Vampire Nighthawk
1 Entomber Exarch
1 Faceless Butcher
1 Keening Banshee
1 Nekretaal
1 Skinrender
1 Soul Snuffers
//5 CMC
1 Shriekmaw
1 Throat Slitter
1 Okiba-Gang Shinobi
1 Sadistic Hypnotist
1 Sengir Vampire
1 Twisted Abomination
1 Phyrexian Gargantua
1 Disfigure
1 Tragic Slip
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Doom Blade
1 Go for the Throat
1 Nameless Inversion
1 Dismember
1 Murder
1 Sudden Death
1 Makeshift Mannequin
1 Snuff Out
1 Slaughter
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Innocent Blood
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Unearth
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Night's Whisper
1 Hymm to Tourach
1 Marsh Casualties
1 Sign in Blood
1 Stupor
1 Infest
1 Barter in Blood
1 Moan of the Unhallowed
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Quest for the Gravelord
1 Necromancy
1 Diabolic Servitude
1 Honden of Night's Reach
1 Pestilence
1 Homicidal Seclusion
1 Reckless Waif
1 Stonewright
1 Thunderscape Apprentice
//2 CMC
1 Hellspark Elemental
1 Keldon Marauders
1 Lightning Mauler
1 Plated Geopede
1 Stormblood Berserker
1 Torch Fiend
1 Ember Hauler
1 Slith Firewalker
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Fire Imp
1 Ghitu Slinger
1 Keldon Vandals
1 Sulfur Elemental
1 Vulshok Sorcerer
//4 CMC
1 Anger
1 Avalanche Riders
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Keldon Champion
1 Viashino Fangtail
1 Ancient Hydra
//6 CMC
1 Markov Warlord
1 Oni of Wild Places
1 Spitebellows
1 Volcanic Dragon
1 Burst Lightning
1 Dead//Gone
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Incinerate
1 Magma Jet
1 Searing Spear
1 Searing Blaze
1 Brimstone Volley
1 Staggershock
1 Sulfurous Blast
1 Flame Javelin
1 Fireblast
1 Chain Lightning
1 Firebolt
1 Flame Slash
1 Pillar of Flame
1 Reckless Charge
1 Arc Trail
1 Pyroclasm
1 Volcanic Hammer
1 Whipflare
1 Arc Lightning
1 Flames of the Firebrand
1 Cone of Flame
1 Shower of Coals
1 Flame Wave
1 Fireball
1 Fanning the Flames
1 Shrine of Burning Rage
//Enchantments
1 Genju of the Spires
1 Seal of Fire
1 Honden of Infinite Rage
1 Pyrohemia
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Joraga Treespeaker
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Thornscape Apprentice
//2 CMC
1 Ambush Viper
1 Devoted Druid
1 Jade Mage
1 Overgrown Battlement
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Wall of Blossoms
1 Wall of Roots
1 Strangleroot Geist
1 Sylvok Replica
1 Farhaven Elf
1 Imperious Perfect
1 Carven Caryatid
1 Eternal Witness
1 Wolfir Avenger
1 Yavimaya Elder
//4 CMC
1 Blightwidow
1 Briarhorn
1 Druid's Familiar
1 Nantuko Vigilante
1 Pouncing Wurm
1 Roaring Primadox
1 Wickerbough Elder
1 Blastoderm
1 Cudgel Troll
1 Penumbra Spider
1 Phantom Centaur
1 Indrik Stomphowler
1 Stingerfling Spider
1 Acidic Slime
//6 CMC
1 Arctic Nishoba
1 Brutalizer Exarch
//7 CMC
1 Maul Splicer
1 Krosan Tusker
1 Pelakka Wurm
1 Vines of Vastwood
1 Wordly Tutor
1 Sprout Swarm
1 Beast Within
1 Invigorate
1 Beast Attack
//Sorceries
1 Regrowth
1 Cultivate
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Explosive Vegetation
1 Hunting Wilds
1 Harmonize
1 Overrun
1 Roar of the Wurm
1 Hurricane
1 Rancor
1 Sylvan Library
1 Moldervine Cloak
1 Triumph of Ferocity
1 Squirrel Nest
1 Honden of Life's Web
1 Centaur Glade
1 Mistmeadow Witch
1 Azorious Guildmage
1 Wall of Denial
1 Plumeveil
1 Momentary Blink
//Dimir U/B
1 Baleful Strix
1 Cavern Harpy
1 Moroii
1 Soul Manipulation
1 Mystical Teachings
//Rakdos B/R
1 Rakdos Guildmage
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Terminate
1 Fire Covenant
1 Bituminous Blast
//Gruul R/G
1 Tinder Wall
1 Horned Kavu
1 Bloodbraid Elf
1 Firespout
1 Savage Twister
1 Avacyn's Pilgrim
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Selesnya Guildmage
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Behemoth Sledge
//Orzhov W/B
1 Tidehollow Sculler
1 Mortify
1 Gerrard'sVerdict
1 Lingering Souls
1 Unburial Rites
//Golgari B/G
1 Elves of Deep Shadow
1 Putrid Leech
1 Shambling Shell
1 Putrefy
1 Necrogenesis
//Simic G/U
1 Coiling Oracle
1 Lorescale Coatl
1 Shardless Agent
1 Trygon Predator
1 Æther Mutation
1 Gelectrode
1 Izzet Chronarch
1 Fire//Ice
1 Jilt
1 Electrolyze
//Boros R/W
1 Duergar Hedge-Mage
1 Skyknight Legionnaire
1 Bull Cerodon
1 Burning Oil
1 Lightning Helix
//Tricolored
1 Rhox War Monk
1 Bant Charm
1 Tower Gargoyle
1 Esper Charm
1 Rise//Fall
1 Slave of Bolos
1 Thunderscape Battlemage
1 Hit//Run
1 Thornscape Battlemage
1 Marisi's Twinclaws
1 Perilous Myr
//3 CMC
1 Pilgrim's Eye
//4 CMC
1 Etched Oracle
1 Galvanic Juggernaut
1 Juggernaut
1 Su-Chi
1 Clockwork Hydra
1 Skyreach Manta
//6 CMC
1 Darksteel Sentinel
1 Phyrexian Juggernaut
1 Ulamog's Crusher
//9 CMC
1 Artisan of Kozilek
1 Sol Ring
1 Armillary Sphere
1 Azorius Signet
1 Boros Signet
1 Dimir Signet
1 Golgari Signet
1 Gruul Signet
1 Izzet Signet
1 Mind Stone
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Selesnya Signet
1 Simic Signet
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Thran Dynamo
//Equipment
1 Bonesplitter
1 Darksteel Axe
1 Silver-Inlaid Dagger
1 Skullclamp
1 Kitesail
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Mask of Memory
1 Mortarpod
1 Ring of Evos Isle
1 Ring of Kalonia
1 Ring of Thune
1 Ring of Valkas
1 Ring of Xathrid
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Tormentor's Trident
1 Fireshrieker
1 Grafted Wargear
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Piston Sledge
1 Contagion Clasp
1 Trip Noose
1 Moonglove Extract
1 Puppet Strings
1 Icy Manipulator
1 Serrated Arrows
//Animators
1 Guardian Idol
1 Chimeric Idol
1 Jade Statue
//Other
1 Æther Vial
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Isochron Scepter
1 Sun Droplet
1 Crystal Ball
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Arcane Sanctum
1 Azorious Chancery
1 Bant Panorama
1 Boros Garrison
1 Buried Ruin
1 City of Brass
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Dimir Aqueduct
1 Dread Statuary
1 Esper Panorama
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Faerie Conclave
1 Gemstone Mine
1 Ghitu Encampment
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Graypelt Refuge
1 Grixis Panorama
1 Gruul Turf
1 Halimar Depths
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Jund Panorama
1 Jungle Shrine
1 Jwar Isle Refuge
1 Kazandu Refuge
1 Maze of Ith
1 Mirrodin's Core
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Naya Panorama
1 Novijen, Heart of Progress
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Pendlehaven
1 Prahv, Spires of Order
1 Quicksand
1 Rakdos Carnarium
1 Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace
1 Rupture Spire
1 Savage Lands
1 Seaside Citadel
1 Sejiri Refuge
1 Selensya Sanctuary
1 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Skarrg, the Rage Pits
1 Strip Mine
1 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
1 Teetering Peaks
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Terminal Moraine
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Treetop Village
1 Urza's Factory
1 Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree
1 Vivid Crag
1 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Grove
1 Vivid Marsh
1 Vivid Meadow
1 Wasteland
1 Zoetic Cavern
White larger: http://postimage.org/image/kt2d15qjl/full/
Blue larger: http://postimage.org/image/mtob88xb5/full/
Black larger: http://postimage.org/image/yeyhfyish/full/
Red larger: http://postimage.org/image/t7hzp8rkx/full/
Green larger: http://postimage.org/image/lz1rm7pgh/full/
Multicolored larger: http://postimage.org/image/q4co84n8h/full/
Colorless larger: http://postimage.org/image/ruvp9m4rl/full/
Land larger: http://postimage.org/image/sffbq1ndt/full/
If you have any suggestions for card additions or subtractions please post, trying to make the best commons/uncommons cube I can.
Updates:
4/20/10 - Major changes, including ROE cards. See post #28 for the list.
10/22/10 - Extremely large change for M11, Scars, and just general card changes. Also changed to Realistic Categorization. List on post #39.
10/23/10 - Added early green aggro creatures, Kird ape and Loam Lion also make their return under the new categorization.
5/5/12 - A Year and a half later I finally post Updates through Avacyn Restored. Too many updates during that time to post change log. Images added. 100% foiled for all cards that can be foiled (455 of the 480 can be foiled). Beginning Signature Process.
My Common/Uncommon Cube - I need to update the online list badly...
There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
All I can say about the potential power cards is that I've personally chosen to exclude Sol Ring from my cube. Any deck can play it. It sets you ahead two turns. There's no common or uncommon that competes with it in power.
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it's true. even within a full fledge cube, our local area has basically said that it's literally the best first pick, even over ancestral recall. but I personally want to try it out for awhile. If people complain then I'll probably cut it for something else.
I'll probably sort the list sometime tomorrow when I get the chance, I just wanted to get tags up first to make it a little easier on myself as well.
there was one more cycle I was working on. I wanted to make a cycle of figurehead lands for each color.
White: ???
Blue: Cephalid Colissium/Tolaria West
Black: Cabal Coffers
Red: Barbarian Ring
Green: Pendlehaven
I just can't figure out white's land. I've looked over the lists and can't think of anything comparable. the only thought I had was Daru Encampment. Although I really wish Kjeldoran Outpost was uncommon.
I'll also post a list of cards that I kinda want to add to the cube or that just barely got cut.
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Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
For your lands question, use Faerie Conclave as the blue one.
What are your cube's themes? Do you want strong white agro, do you want black to be a control or agressive color? How much do you want to stress/destress multicolored decks? What are they key archetypes you want people tod raft? These are important cube questions.
I'm not a big fan of an even 60 card split between everything. That means your going to see as many multicolored cards as your going to see white cards. That seems wrong to me.
I'm not a big fan of the borderposts. That being said they should go in the multicolor section, not artifact section.
I would post a more indepth review, but I don't know what many of these cards are.
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I tried posting them in but it was giving me weird scripts, that's why I asked if anyone knows the fix for it (seems to be since they switched card viewers the batch card list maker has had issues). I went a head and tried it again with the lands. click the land spoiler to see what I mean by weird scripts.
I have faerie conclave in there, along with treetop village, and ghitu encampment. I didn't include the white and black, as they honestly aren't very good.
White aggro should be very strong, with many 1 & 2 drops with 2+ power, and either evasion/first strike/useful ability. it's backed up by quite a few repeat tap effects.
black & green I took away their early drops to support more of the discard/reanimator/control theme & ramp into beats and efficient midrange/evasion creatures respectively.
Red took the other aggressive color, and focused heavily on burn and haste creatures. there's also side theme of land destruction and field sweepers.
blue is fairly standard for control/draw, however for it's primary creatures I tried to focus on flying fatties so they could regain ground against white and push damage vs the other colors.
I'd like my cube to be fairly balanced so people can focus on mono-colored (or mono + splash) while still having the availability to go 3+ colors (why many of the artifacts and lands focus on fixing) to make use of the multicolored spells.
I'm trying out the borderposts for now, as I saw them in my friends cube and they do really help with fixing. the reason they're the only colored artifacts is because they are a complete and balanced cycle between each color, and normally do not require colored mana to be cast. that and multicolored (especially allied colors) tends to be really tight as it is. if I find people don't want to draft them then I'll probably remove them for other things.
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Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
so far White & blue are sorted by type & cost. black is finished as well, but tags are messed up.
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There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
At the moment I'm considering swapping out Sengir Vampire for Fallen Angel, which I find more flavorful.
What do you guys think?
hmm. might be worth a try, although sengir is one of the few cards that can go toe-to-toe with white's volume of flyers. I might cut back a little, probably take out air-elemental itself but leave in jetting glasskite & living tsunami.
I did also make a couple quick changes today:
-kiss of the amesha
+Sky hussar
-Murderous Redcap
+[card]Fire covenant
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so I realized today that I've never truely looked at sky hussar's stats or even his forecast ability, just his comboing with kiki-jiki. apparently he's a fairly weel stated 4/3 that can draw you extra cards, who knew?
also found out fire covenant is uncommon and not rare.
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There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
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yeah, I was having a hard time choosing what r/b to remove. what do you think should go out of the 6:
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There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
You can't remove Terminate, Bit Blast or Redcap... those are the 3 best BR cards for your cube. Id probably just not add in the Covenant and use the other 5.
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My Article - "Cube Design Philosophy"
My Article - "Mana Short: A study in limited resource management."
My 50th Set (P)review - Discusses my top 20 Cube cards from OTJ!
My Common/Uncommon Cube - I need to update the online list badly...
There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
A couple suggestions:
Hunted Wumpus could be Rhox Charger
Invigorate could be Gilt-Leaf Ambush
And definitely keep Murderous Redcap and Kiss of the Amesha
I did end up keeping murderous redcap and dropping wrecking ball. think I'll leave kiss out for the moment unless someone can give me a good reason why to keep it in compared to: sky hussar, azorious guildmage, plumeveil, silkbind faerie, & wall of denial.
also added berserk, force of will, and sylvan library to the cube tonight.
decided on seijri steppe as the white "power" land
still trying to figure out the red "power" card. honestly I might just claim it too be bolt and be done with it. -.-
need to find replacements for teetering peeks, bojuka bog, cephalid colliseum, & khalni garden. perferably colorless lands.
I plan on fixing the formatting of the first post later today, and probably take pictures of the cube on sunday.
My Common/Uncommon Cube - I need to update the online list badly...
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Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
Trading for foils for the cube is the best thing ever. Sadly, I have like only 2 cards left to find.
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Took pictures, but my new compute lacks the proper SD slot for my camera, so I need to find the usb cord before I can host them, but should be up shortly. Sadly I still have a few proxies as my card orders haven't arrived yet, and I wasn't able to look through my friend's proxies today, so hopefully next time some week I'll have updated pictures with no proxies & more foils.
I still can't get the card tags to work so you can view a cards by clicking the links, but the rest of the tags seem to be fixed. please, if anyone knows how to get the card tags working plase post and tell me as I really want to get the cards hyperlinked.
in the future I'm planning on dropping the majority of the reanimation spells from back (keeping a few like reanimate). If you have any suggestions for what should go in their place, or a specific theme that should replace them, I'm looking for suggestions.
thanks again for your patience while I get past the formatting issues.
Edit:
Finished updating lists & uploaded pictures. currently card list & picture order for Artifacts & lands are not the same, will be fixed when I take new pictures next week. also sorry about some of the blurry pictures, I really need to buy a new camera at some point.
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that's a good question
let's see if we can't fit them into black.
Edit: got more foils. about 40 away from having 50% of the cube foiled out.
Edit 2: Finally got card scripts working, however lost the links to the previous pictures, and when I re-uploaded them they decided to turn the green and artifact pictures and rotate them 90 degrees. will work on reuploading them to post again later.
Everything else seems in order, and I'll begin working hard on fixing up black.
My Common/Uncommon Cube - I need to update the online list badly...
There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
I'm also currently working on adding foil proxies for the cards that I cannot get foiled (such as control magic and force of will), so I'll be spending most of my time attempting to perfect that process to make them look as good as possible. I'll post pictures of my progress.
As a side note, I found the absolute cutest squirrel token in the proxy thread, so now I want to find a card that makes squirrel tokens so I can use the token in the cube >.>;; any suggestions?
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Squirrel Nest is absolutely bonkers. put it in.
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Out:
Ballyknock cohort
In:
Whipcorder
Not sure why whipcorder was never in there before, but I found a foil already. Still should probably find room for Silver & White knight.
Out:
In:
Major change up for black. lost alot of the reanimator theme (although key cards like reanimate, unearth, makshift mannequin, and Life//Death remain), and added in an early black creature presence, including some additional discard support in augur and interrogator. also seal of doom to fill in the enchantment slot a little bit with solid removal, and contagion as an interesting combat trick. If you have any additional black aggro creatures you think should be in here, please suggest them.
Out:
Rukh Egg
In:
Pyrokinesis
The egg just wasn't doing what red wants to do, and everyone likes more removal
Out:
Bestial Menace
In:
Squirrel Nest
Well, as much as I love the trip token maker, it doesn't seem enough and I couldn't find anything else to cut in green. if you have any suggestions for a different cut inplace of bestial menace please suggest it. I just wanted to make room for Squirrel nest as suggested by Klug & bizzaro so I can make use of my awesome squirrel tokens.
That should bring everything upto date beside pictures. should have new pictures up this weekend.
suggestions always welcome.
My Common/Uncommon Cube - I need to update the online list badly...
There's a Planeswalker for that! - Child of Alara, Mono-Planeswalker EDH
Savra Sack Off - Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Grave Pact Control EDH
Anthems of Heliod - Heliod, God of the Sun, Token & Anthem EDH
Better cards to cut in my opinion:
1 or both Fyndhorn Elder - if this comes down on turn three, there are a few cards you can accelerate to but all together I'd rather have a less vulnerable Kodama's Reach or Explosive Vegetation.
Beast Attack - this card is cute, but a 4/4 for 5 is below average these days, even at instant speed. It's also a pretty heavy color commitment. Fine but not great.
Roar of the Wurm - without a discard outlet this card is terrible.
Mold Shambler - without Planeswalkers around this is a worse Acidic Slime. You don't need both.
Baloth Woodcrasher - a cool beater that I tried out, but he's altogether too expensive coupled with a lot more removal spells floating around.
Hunted Wumpus - an interesting concept. It's going to feel really bad when your opponent gets a free Shriekmaw, Nekrataal, Man-o'-War, etc;
Also, I mentioned on my thread about reanimation spells - they're good even if you're not supporting a linear theme. Pretty sure Animate Dead and Necromancy are better than Reanimate. The life loss is relevant as control decks are going to want the reanimation most of the time. Getting a Persist creature, Shriekmaw, Mulldrifter, Eternal Witness, etc, back can be really crushing.
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