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“What is thy bidding, my master?” Darth Vader asked.
The flickering hologram of his master’s hooded face stared down at the kneeling Sith Lord.
“I wish to test your skills yet again, my apprentice,” said the master. “You will enter the wormhole I have ordered you to. There you will find a galaxy unattuned to the force.”
“How can this be, my master?” Vader said.
“Quiet! I’ve not finished. There is a planet not far from the wormhole populated by humans. It would seem these humans are ruled over in secret by a group of shadowy warriors called the Foot Clan. I want you to challenge their general, Shredder. Defeat him in single combat. Humiliate him and convince his masters that they should bow down to us.”
“Yes master.”
“And one more thing. Don’t take your lightsabre to the planet. They are a primitive race and I don’t want them to know of our weaponry. Use one of the long knives their people use.”
“I will not fail you,” Vader said, rising to his feet.
The figure smiled under his hood as the hologram flickered out.
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There really is not a contest here. As much as I like the shredder and his ability to survive falling rubble, he is not a contest for the lethal force choke or light saber of Darth Vader.
Lulzy, way to read the setup *facepalm*
My vote still goes with vader, because the foot clan never seemed to be really good at anything. Shredder just like failed repeatedly, it's not like he owned the city or was causing serious trouble, he just stole a bit of stuff through his lackeys. Shredder also was not incredibly adept at physical combat compared to Darth Vader, who has super futuristic high tech armor and a voice that will probably cause shredder to just break down in tears upon hearing it.
shrederr is more skilled in fights than vader.
i watched the entire series of tmnt and all star wars movies and i honestly think that shrederr should kill him. after all his an allien also.
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Does being unattuned to the Force mean that no one in that galaxy can use the Force, or no one can use the Force in that galaxy?
Good call removing the saber, but it's still desecration for Shredder if Vader has the Force.
The linked wiki is supremely lacking, though. What incarnation are we talking here? It has to be a Shredder that can use magic or this fight wouldn't even be worth its scene in a comic.
If Vader doesn't have the Force, then I think Shredder could win this. You're not giving him his salt if you let his opponent's super-suit decide the match before it begins. Shredder is a sneaky ******, and he's not de-powered.
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We should also make it so Vader can't see and can only crawl around on his knees because I don't think taking away his ability to use the force or his lightsaber neuters his character enough or takes away everything that defines him.
I voted as if Vader had his lightsaber and force, because that's what he actually has, and Shredder loses.
With out the force and reliant on modern weapons for offense Vader's life support system is going to become a major weakness that will have to protect though preventing an all out assault on the Shredder.
Depending on what he has managed to arm himself with Shredder may well be able to get a strike through and disable it, as Belgarath has stated that then leaves a very dead Vader.
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forget all that force/wormhole crap. Vader owns shreeder any day of the week and twice on sunday.
Shredder is nothing more than a ninja guy that takes orders froma walking brain. Vader single handedly takes out small armies of laser firing soliders.
If you're going top take away the Force and his light sabre, you might as well just put shredder up against any other guy with a full body cast and prosthetic limbs.
Force and Lightsabre makes Vader who he is.
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I think that vader would still win this, his robot arms and legs would be more than enough to crush almost any character in TMNT. Vader has jedi training and A lifetime of combat experience. Shredder is a ninja mastermind with a chip on his shoulder. Not much of a contest.
However, if we were going off of the Soul Caliber incarnation of Vader, then shreder, april o'neel, or even the hockey dude could take Vader.
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Shredder should be forced to fight without legs or arms to make it equally depowered. To make it fair, get rid of Vader's arms and legs and leave shredder intact.
Umm... wow way to castrate Vador no force powers no lightsaber... but he can still win... never said he can't just blow up the whole dam building with some tie fighters...
I can't EVER see Sidous saying "don't use your full extent of your powers" So I can only conclude that vador being a fairly smart guy would realise this is a fake message go the location with a fleet and destroy everything on the planet. He wins.
Come on guys, He's got no legs, no arms, and is a nubbin. Just to make the fight fair you have to take away everything that makes him, HIM.
If your asking who would win between Shredder and a Nubbin? Nubbin. because thats the man who killed Obi Wan, cut off lukes hand, killed Mace Windu, destroyed the Jedi in an evening, and had no problem cutting down younglings.
His kill record is longer than some rappers brag about having.
Has Shredder ever actually killed anyone? I think he would wet his pants at the thought.
I can understand all the complaints about the handicaps on Vader, but I have a suspicion that if they weren't there I'd be hearing it for putting up such an obvious match. I try to make these a bit interesting, after all ;). I was kind of surprised that Shredder beat Cheetah.
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I can understand all the complaints about the handicaps on Vader, but I have a suspicion that if they weren't there I'd be hearing it for putting up such an obvious match. I try to make these a bit interesting, after all ;). I was kind of surprised that Shredder beat Cheetah.
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The biggest complaint is you took away his weapon! a lightsaber is significantly different than a steel blade (not to mention alot lighter) he needs the force to continue living and that you made it really silly a sith would NEVER say "don't use your full force" they are all about glory revenge, Overpowering people. I understand you didn't want a 1 hit KO just choking the guy to death or ripping him limb from limb with the force but to take his weapon (and his ability to breath) is a tad much.
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Round 1. Mystique v
Lex LuthorRound 2. Deathstroke v
UltronRound 3. Magneto v
SylarRound 4. Sinestro v
ViloatorRound 5.
Norman Osbornv Ra’s al GhulRound 6.
Cheetahv ShredderRound 7. Darth Vader v
VenomRound 8. Dr. Doom v
the Joker10. Assassins: Deathstroke v Mystique
11. Kings: Dr. Doom v Ra’s al Ghul
12. Generals: Darth Vader v Shredder
The flickering hologram of his master’s hooded face stared down at the kneeling Sith Lord.
“I wish to test your skills yet again, my apprentice,” said the master. “You will enter the wormhole I have ordered you to. There you will find a galaxy unattuned to the force.”
“How can this be, my master?” Vader said.
“Quiet! I’ve not finished. There is a planet not far from the wormhole populated by humans. It would seem these humans are ruled over in secret by a group of shadowy warriors called the Foot Clan. I want you to challenge their general, Shredder. Defeat him in single combat. Humiliate him and convince his masters that they should bow down to us.”
“Yes master.”
“And one more thing. Don’t take your lightsabre to the planet. They are a primitive race and I don’t want them to know of our weaponry. Use one of the long knives their people use.”
“I will not fail you,” Vader said, rising to his feet.
The figure smiled under his hood as the hologram flickered out.
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Lulzy, way to read the setup *facepalm*
My vote still goes with vader, because the foot clan never seemed to be really good at anything. Shredder just like failed repeatedly, it's not like he owned the city or was causing serious trouble, he just stole a bit of stuff through his lackeys. Shredder also was not incredibly adept at physical combat compared to Darth Vader, who has super futuristic high tech armor and a voice that will probably cause shredder to just break down in tears upon hearing it.
i watched the entire series of tmnt and all star wars movies and i honestly think that shrederr should kill him. after all his an allien also.
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That's like saying Aquaman can beat Superman...if they fight next to a yellow sun with Aquaman wearing a kryptonite armor.
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Good call removing the saber, but it's still desecration for Shredder if Vader has the Force.
The linked wiki is supremely lacking, though. What incarnation are we talking here? It has to be a Shredder that can use magic or this fight wouldn't even be worth its scene in a comic.
If Vader doesn't have the Force, then I think Shredder could win this. You're not giving him his salt if you let his opponent's super-suit decide the match before it begins. Shredder is a sneaky ******, and he's not de-powered.
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I voted as if Vader had his lightsaber and force, because that's what he actually has, and Shredder loses.
Depending on what he has managed to arm himself with Shredder may well be able to get a strike through and disable it, as Belgarath has stated that then leaves a very dead Vader.
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Shredder is nothing more than a ninja guy that takes orders froma walking brain. Vader single handedly takes out small armies of laser firing soliders.
If you're going top take away the Force and his light sabre, you might as well just put shredder up against any other guy with a full body cast and prosthetic limbs.
Force and Lightsabre makes Vader who he is.
you don't compare a middle weight boxer to a heavy weight and say that if the heavy weight was missing an arm it'd be a fair fight.
However, if we were going off of the Soul Caliber incarnation of Vader, then shreder, april o'neel, or even the hockey dude could take Vader.
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If Vader cannot use the Force in Earth, than Shredder wins. Otherwise, I guess Vader wins.
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I can't EVER see Sidous saying "don't use your full extent of your powers" So I can only conclude that vador being a fairly smart guy would realise this is a fake message go the location with a fleet and destroy everything on the planet. He wins.
Come on guys, He's got no legs, no arms, and is a nubbin. Just to make the fight fair you have to take away everything that makes him, HIM.
If your asking who would win between Shredder and a Nubbin? Nubbin. because thats the man who killed Obi Wan, cut off lukes hand, killed Mace Windu, destroyed the Jedi in an evening, and had no problem cutting down younglings.
His kill record is longer than some rappers brag about having.
Has Shredder ever actually killed anyone? I think he would wet his pants at the thought.
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The biggest complaint is you took away his weapon! a lightsaber is significantly different than a steel blade (not to mention alot lighter) he needs the force to continue living and that you made it really silly a sith would NEVER say "don't use your full force" they are all about glory revenge, Overpowering people. I understand you didn't want a 1 hit KO just choking the guy to death or ripping him limb from limb with the force but to take his weapon (and his ability to breath) is a tad much.