I'd like to include some sac outlets that don't require tapping to add a bit more synergy to the deck, but I'm not sure what to take out to make room. I'd like to at least find spots for Ashnod's Altar and Attrition and maybe Altar of Dementia. I can combo these cards with things like Bitterblossom and the Reveilark + Karmic Guide combo to do all sorts of crazy things. Plus they're nice with Grave Pact. I've also thought about Helm of Possession as an option for another sac outlet. What do you guys feel look like weak links here?
Kjeldoran Outpost is a great land card that works with Knight-Captain of Eos and provides some easy bodies for GCO.
Elspeth also works really well with Knight-Captain of Eos and GCO (both by providing bodies, and turning GCO into a 7/7 Flying beater, which is a three turn clock).
Shred Memory is a awesome piece of Graveyard hate that can fetch good things in your list (Oversold Cemetary, Bitterblossom, Martial Coup, Profane Command, Lightning Greaves)
I included Peace of Mind and Jalum Tome so that I'd have discard outlets with good effects attached to them. In actual game play, I'd often find myself just on the brink of an early Yosei or Reya, but with no way to get the fatties in my yard. If I took out the reanimation spells, then the discard outlets would surely follow close behind.
I was thinking of cutting Phyrexian Reclamation and Zombie Infestation to make room for Ashnod's Altar and Attrition. And then maybe Rise from the Grave to make room for Elspeth. Necropotence is intriguing, but I'm iffy on it. The whole exile cards that would hit my graveyard thing is what makes me skeptical on how good it would be in this deck. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try it out, though, so perhaps Zombify could get the axe to make room for this nasty beast of a broken card. I want to keep Jalum Tome in for now because I haven't had a lot of chances to play with it and see how helpful it actually is. Is there something other than Reclamation that you think should come out for one of those sac outlets?
Nether Traitor/Bloodghast seems like a pretty good candidate for sac fodder. I like Kitar's Wrath versus Planar Cleansing a lot more, simply because it lets you get two tokens if you have threshold.
Diabolic Tutor and no Vampiric Tutor? IMO, Makeshift Mannequin should replace Rise from the Grave. Elspeth might also have a home in the deck, as well.
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Rhys the Redeemed
Ashling the Pilgrim
Ruhan of the Fomori
Rafiq of the Many
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Aurelia, the Warleader
Animar, Soul of Elements
Borborygmos Enraged
Riku of Two Reflections
Traitor and Bloodghast do seem like good candidates for sac fodder, but I have no idea what I'd cut to make room for them. I like Planar Cleansing more because it not only takes care of problematic creatures, but also problematic artifacts and enchantments. The only downside is hitting my own artifacts and such, but so far it's been pretty good. Rise From the Grave actually already came out to make room for, surprisingly enough, Elspeth. I just hadn't updated the OP yet.
Updated the decklist, which hadn't been done since June or so. I would really appreciate any comments and suggestions on this list.
I think I'm removal heavy, but in 1v1 spot removal can decide games. I also don't know how I feel about Bloodghast here. My sac outlets are fine, but other than Attrition or with Grave Pact in play, sacrificing a Bloodghast seems kinda meh.
Any and all comments and suggestions are definitely welcome. I'm still pretty new at this format, so critique is a definite plus.
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CREATURES (21)
1 Academy Rector
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Shriekmaw
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Knight-Captain of Eos
1 Skeletal Vampire
1 Emeria Angel
1 Teysa, Orzhov Scion
1 Bloodghast
1 Reya, Dawnbringer
1 Yosei, the Morningstar
1 Angel of Despair
1 Archon of Justice
1 Twilight Shepherd
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
1 Adarkar Valkyrie
1 Karmic Guide
1 Grave Titan
1 Faceless Butcher
REMOVAL (13)
1 Martial Coup
1 Wrath of God
1 Planar Cleansing
1 Damnation
1 Hallowed Burial
1 Austere Command
1 Vindicate
1 Mortify
1 Condemn
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to Exile
1 Unmake
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Liliana Vess
1 Skullclamp
RECURSION (9)
1 Corpse Dance
1 Dawn of the Dead
1 Beacon of Unrest
1 Debtors' Knell
1 Profane Command
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Mimic Vat
1 Nim Deathmantle
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
TOKENS (5)
1 Bitterblossom
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Conquerer's Pledge
1 Spectral Procession
TECH (7)
1 Grave Pact
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Identity Crisis
1 Attrition
1 Minion Reflector
1 Peace of Mind
1 Sorin Markov
LAND (38)
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Fetid Heath
1 Godless Shrine
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Scrubland
1 Marsh Flats
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Arid Mesa
1 Polluted Delta
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Windswept Heath
1 Flooded Strand
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 High Market
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Strip Mine
1 Wasteland
1 Kor Haven
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Flagstones of Trokair
8 Plains
8 Swamp
I love the amount of pure synergy this deck has. So many cards play off each other and just make each other better.
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I'd like to include some sac outlets that don't require tapping to add a bit more synergy to the deck, but I'm not sure what to take out to make room. I'd like to at least find spots for Ashnod's Altar and Attrition and maybe Altar of Dementia. I can combo these cards with things like Bitterblossom and the Reveilark + Karmic Guide combo to do all sorts of crazy things. Plus they're nice with Grave Pact. I've also thought about Helm of Possession as an option for another sac outlet. What do you guys feel look like weak links here?
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EDIT: Actually Peace of Mind seems kind of good with Necropotence.
Elspeth also works really well with Knight-Captain of Eos and GCO (both by providing bodies, and turning GCO into a 7/7 Flying beater, which is a three turn clock).
Shred Memory is a awesome piece of Graveyard hate that can fetch good things in your list (Oversold Cemetary, Bitterblossom, Martial Coup, Profane Command, Lightning Greaves)
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I was thinking of cutting Phyrexian Reclamation and Zombie Infestation to make room for Ashnod's Altar and Attrition. And then maybe Rise from the Grave to make room for Elspeth. Necropotence is intriguing, but I'm iffy on it. The whole exile cards that would hit my graveyard thing is what makes me skeptical on how good it would be in this deck. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try it out, though, so perhaps Zombify could get the axe to make room for this nasty beast of a broken card. I want to keep Jalum Tome in for now because I haven't had a lot of chances to play with it and see how helpful it actually is. Is there something other than Reclamation that you think should come out for one of those sac outlets?
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anyway, i would add in Teysa if possible to Ur list... although she's a conditional sac outlet...
i also played All is Dust in place of planar cleansing since i do not like to destroy all own artifacts accel
Also, if U r looking for cards to cut, i think Oversold Cemetery had to go since i could hardly get my graveyard filled up with all the recursion
Have you considered Buried Alive? it's a kind of like a tutor when U have a reanimation spell in hand =)
And there's Victimize
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Turn3: Buried Alive => Bloodghast, Creature #1, Creature #2
Turn4: Landfall, Victimize
Diabolic Tutor and no Vampiric Tutor? IMO, Makeshift Mannequin should replace Rise from the Grave. Elspeth might also have a home in the deck, as well.
EDH:
Zo-Zu the Punisher
Phelddagrif
Rhys the Redeemed
Ashling the Pilgrim
Ruhan of the Fomori
Rafiq of the Many
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Aurelia, the Warleader
Animar, Soul of Elements
Borborygmos Enraged
Riku of Two Reflections
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I think I'm removal heavy, but in 1v1 spot removal can decide games. I also don't know how I feel about Bloodghast here. My sac outlets are fine, but other than Attrition or with Grave Pact in play, sacrificing a Bloodghast seems kinda meh.
Any and all comments and suggestions are definitely welcome. I'm still pretty new at this format, so critique is a definite plus.
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