I have an active Pyromancer Ascension and I cast Harrow. Do I sacrifice an additional land for the copy? I think not but I had a conflicting ruling from several friends the other day and I want to clear it up. When copying spells with additional costs other than mana, do you have to pay the costs?
You only have pay costs when you cast spells. AS you are putting a copy of the spell on the stack with Pyromancer Ascension you are not casting anything so you won't ahve to sacrifice another land.
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You only have pay costs when you cast spells. AS you are putting a copy of the spell on the stack with Pyromancer Ascension you are not casting anything so you won't ahve to sacrifice another land.
This is what I thought. Does this remain true for Twincast targeting my Harrow?
You only have pay costs when you cast spells. AS you are putting a copy of the spell on the stack with Pyromancer Ascension you are not casting anything so you won't ahve to sacrifice another land.
This is correct. Here is the relevant rules text
706.9. To copy a spell or activated ability means to put a copy of it onto the stack; a copy of a spell isn’t cast and a copy of an activated ability isn’t activated. A copy of a spell or ability copies both the characteristics of the spell or ability and all decisions made for it, including modes, targets, the value of X, and additional or alternative costs. (See rule 601, “Casting Spells.”) Choices that are normally made on resolution are not copied. If an effect of the copy refers to objects used to pay its costs, it uses the objects used to pay the costs of the original spell or ability. A copy of a spell is owned by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell or ability is controlled by the player under whose control it was put on the stack. A copy of a spell is itself a spell, even though it has no spell card associated with it. A copy of an ability is itself an ability.
Example: Fling is an instant that reads, “As an additional cost to cast Fling, sacrifice a creature” and “Fling deals damage equal to the sacrificed creature’s power to target creature or player.” When determining how much damage a copy of Fling deals, it checks the power of the creature sacrificed to pay for the original Fling.
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This is what I thought. Does this remain true for Twincast targeting my Harrow?
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This is correct. Here is the relevant rules text
Yes twincast puts a copy of harrow on the stack at no point does it cast harrow so no costs are paid for the copy.
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