MTG Salvation

Pretend to be a white bunny and survive until being a Rock type has left the rest all closer to doom than yourself.



Life from the Loam + Demonic Collusion + Beacon of Immortality / Worm Harvest is the usual finisher surprisingly enough.

Probably needs more wraths, but usually random chance finds me sitting on the good side of the RBW deck packing as many as it can. The list really hasn't been updated since initial WWK, but I'm not feeling all too much from ROE except for Spawnsire of Ulamog as potential adds or one of the big Eldrazi to board in in place of Autochthon Wurm if we happen to have three mill-decks sitting at the table like the last time this deck sat down to play.

5 Accelerants -> Vindicate, Imperial Seal, and Spirit of the Hearth swap for 1v1, which I tend to get oddly good draws in since we play one-free partial paris mulligans

Comments, Suggestions on swaps, flames, pointing out happy interactions I missed, or critique welcome
~ Rith

Take it from me. Building a creature base around Reveillark in these colors is MUCH better then building one around fatties. It's simple enough to do. Replacing things like Indrik Stomphowler and Shriekmaw with Acidic Slime and Bone Shredder is a good start. Then, start replacing fatties with ones that have 0 power in the grave. Phantom Nishoba is a great start, but continue with cards like Golgari Grave-Troll, Mindwarper, Sekki, Season's Guide, Spike Weaver, Guiltfeeder, etc. Keep a few bruisers in in the Akroma power level for your other reanimation spells.

Trust me, you'll thank me when you bring back Karmic Guide and Eternal Witness (and then Reveillark again) at the same time. Also, replace Life/Death with Animate Dead and Diabolic Servitude with Necromancy.

Also, your deck is in desparate need of Crucible of Worlds. I also think you don't run enough basics, but that's just me.

I second the love affair with Reveillark, Karmic Guide, and Eternal Witness. Those three cards should be cemented into the foundation of every Teneb deck.

If you want more building suggestions, check out the link in my sig. I've been working on my Teneb deck for a couple of years now.

Just one thing: why is DOOMGAPE IN HERE????

Yes, I know of Reveillark. For some odd reason though, I just don't like it despite how much support I've seen for the thing. Possibly in another build that I'm working on starting to pull together since I love the colors and wouldn't mind the extra stack to pick from, but for now in my eyes it's too weak because what it plays off from is too weak. This deck is suppose to be Rock to its fullest; where when I'm topdecking on turn 40 it's still bomb after bomb. If I can find enough things that can stand on their own, I might consider a `lark, but otherwise it's on the short list of cards I was trying not to give into the last time I was seriously updating this.

One thing to note, is going infinite is heavily frowned upon in my group as well as Declaration of Naught is in every U deck. If you go infinite, expect to be first-killed for the next 3 games/weeks or atleast not have access to your key-piece unless you're quick.

@The_Grey_King
I'd not ever heard of Mindwarper, but I oddly like it for a 4CC 3/3. Sekki will probably find his way in here once I can find a copy since there's already 4 spirits in there to help him out a bit. Will probably snag a Guiltfeeder as well once I find myself a Keening Stone since there's usually 1-2 mill decks sitting in my weekly playgroup if it's a big enough game.

@muteone
Doomgape is amazing. I was running Fuedkiller's Verdict for a game or two before swapping this guy in instead. He's a reanimate-able, sustainable, more-easily-tutorable lifegain spell. Sure, it takes a whole gameturn to resolve, but I cannot count the number of times. He's also big. I know it's wrong, but I play the majority of my games without Teneb actually; or with him shuffled in (I'm stupid and think I can take on T2 and Extended decks with this)

Burried Alive, Congregation at Dawn, Tooth and Nail, Survival of the Fittest, and Primal Command can all go find Doomgape, which means he comes out far easier than a simple lifegain spell; essentially the same reasons why I originally tossed in a Karmic Guide which has just worked wonders for me lately. Doomgape's also sorta my only sac-outlet, and he barely counts at that.

~ Rith

As for "going infinite" with Reveillark, it's not really infinite until you add a Mirror Entity or a Bloodthrone Vampire. It's just an extremely powerful recursion engine. As for the Grave-Troll and Spike Weaver, they are fantastically powerful cards late game and early game, and most of the time Acidic Slime is better then the Stomphowler, thanks to deathtouch and the ability to hit lands.

Also, something I'd not noticed, there is no Genesis in the deck, and that is a crime, especially with Survival of the Fittest and Buried Alive in the deck. Using buried alive to set up Genesis, Eternal Witness and Stinkweed Imp is stupidly powerful.

Also, I don't know if you're proxying or not, but Grim Tutor is a fantastic card, and you can probably afford it if you have a real Imperial Seal in your deck...I'd actually say tutor is better then seal, personally.

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@muteone
Doomgape is amazing. I was running Fuedkiller's Verdict for a game or two before swapping this guy in instead. He's a reanimate, sustainable, more-easily-tutorable lifegain spell. Sure, it takes a whole gameturn to resolve, but I cannot count the number of times. He's also big. I know it's wrong, but I play the majority of my games without Teneb actually; or with him shuffled in (I'm stupid and think I can take on T2 and Extended decks with this)

Burried Alive, Congregation at Dawn, Tooth and Nail, Survival of the Fittest, and Primal Command can all go find Doomgape, which means he comes out far easier than a simple lifegain spell; essentially the same reasons why I originally tossed in a Karmic Guide which has just worked wonders for me lately. Doomgape's also sorta my only sac-outlet, and he barely counts at that.

~ Rith

Ok. I made the mistake of thinking it was primarily a fat dude but if it's there to gain life it makes some sense.

@The_Grey_King
Hmm, the Spike guy's second ability does seem overtly powerful, and he comes online easily early. I used to run a Grave-Troll, but I just never had enough creatures in the `yard to see him bigger than a 5/5, and thus he became a card played solely for the fact that he had Dredge 6 on him and was eventually cut from the list with the few other non-Loam/imp Dredge cards that were still in there. He was cut `cause the Imp was just working better as a see-lots-of-cards card that while showing one less, had an alternative use as well.

Genesis... well, that's the type of genius I was hoping for when I threw this list up here. I'd considered it for my Legacy Bant-Survival, but he proved too slow there, but here, with as much mana as I get, is essentially a one-sided Debtors' Knell.

And that's a palm-to-forehead moment. Yes, Grim Tutor is far better than a Seal. I'm in the process of converting/painting my own Seal to use as a placeholder until a friend of mine can go pick up his old collection from Cali and I can snag one of his real spares, or atleast that had been my plan before he learned they'd jumped in price. Real Duals come first though, but I would so enjoy finding just one-of`s of such things as I've grown a new hate for crappy proxies lately.

I thank you for your input while my wallet doesn't as I've yet more elder cards to go track down in bins or random old binders now for both of my in-construction decks.

~ Rith