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Old 06-22-2010, 09:54 AM   #1
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Default Purple Mana coming? (UPDATED first post)

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I found something additional. Take it for what it's worth:

One of Mark Rosewaters latest tweets was the following:

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Not only does Shake have something new, it also has something old, something borrowed and something blue.
Looking up things concerning Purple, I stumbled upon this article from '06:

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...om/daily/mr247

It's starts off with:

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So did you any go to the prerelease? Did you have a good time? Anything unexpected happen? Well, that’s the topic of today’s column. If you have no idea what I’m talking about, you will very shortly.

Let’s begin by reviewing the last three weeks of previews.


Three weeks ago, I talked about Time Spiral’s nostalgia theme. That’s something old.

Two weeks ago, I talked about Time Spiral’s time motif. That’s something new.

Last week, I talked about how we took split second away from Coldsnap. That’s something borrowed.

That means this week it’s time for something blue.
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This is a repeat of something I posted in the actual rumor mill, but felt it deserved it's own thread. I feel that purple may be coming our way finally. Here's the original post:

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Just noticed something on the planet art.

1)


Again to this part: Did somebody beside me noticed that the sixth planet is purple? PURPLE?!!
I think this particular post was buried too quickly and brushed aside with the note that purple sometimes represents black. I guess in the same way that yellowish represents white?

The problem is, there is already a black planet represented. On top of that, as noted in the attachment, the colors are placed in a pattern to neighbor the ally colors. The color purple WAS suppose to be allies of Black & Blue, and has been speculated and rumored for the longest time (I remember an article in the late 90's in either Scrye or Inquest... I forget which).

Here's an article written in 2007 concerning the topic:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...om/feature/386

So the question is, is Wizards still throwing this idea around?

EDIT: ALSO, as noted in the article, Purple was supposed to be a direct enemy of GREEN, the planet that is... um... blowing up?



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So as evidence:

1) In the artwork, the green planet is being destroyed and, as stated, Purple was supposed to be a direct enemy of green.

2) Mark Rosewater twitter comments on Shake:

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Finished 1st ever Shake booster draft. I drafted something players have never been able to draft around before but I believe will want to.
and...

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Not only does Shake have something new, it also has something old, something borrowed and something blue.
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About to start 2nd ever Shake draft. I'll try to draft something I can't actually talk about, make an obscure tweet and start more threads.
Well... something "new" that they've never been able to draft would certainly be purple cards.

3) I'm certainly no Vorthos, but perhaps some other board members who are can come up with why purple would be found on a return trip to Mirrodin. Maybe something about the corrupting sludge or ooze or whatever it was? Yes, I know - this isn't evidence.

That's all I've got at the moment.

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Old 06-22-2010, 10:04 AM   #2
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The main problem with your theory is that the art is for an unspoiled card in M11, which will NOT have purple cards in (crunch confirms, and core set is no place for such a debut).

Even if this was art for SoM, it's still much more likely the 'black' planet represents colourless, rather than the purple planet representing purple. The MaRo hints are too broad and could apply to far too many things (which he actually acknowledges in his second tweet), and furthermore they are for the block AFTER SoM.

So...none of this supports purple.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:10 AM   #3
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Short answer, No.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:13 AM   #4
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Looking at that, "Black" should be colourless and "purple" should be black.

And this can all be dismissed by two words: Artisitic License
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The main problem with your theory is that the art is for an unspoiled card in M11, which will NOT have purple cards in (crunch confirms, and core set is no place for such a debut).

Even if this was art for SoM, it's still much more likely the 'black' planet represents colourless, rather than the purple planet representing purple. The MaRo hints are too broad and could apply to far too many things (which he actually acknowledges in his second tweet), and furthermore they are for the block AFTER SoM.

So...none of this supports purple.
Eye of Ugin teased the word "Eldrazi", yet there were none.

Shield of Kaldra spoke of Helm of Kaldra, a card not yet printed

Point? This isn't something new for them to do.

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Looking at that, "Black" should be colourless and "purple" should be black.
When has colorless or "brown" mana ever been represented in any form? I could be wrong, but I don't recall any cards or pictures that do so.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:15 AM   #6
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Eye of Ugin teased the word "Eldrazi", yet there were none.

Shield of Kaldra spoke of Helm of Kaldra, a card not yet printed

Point? This isn't something new for them to do.
Note that all of those were in blocks, not a core set.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:17 AM   #7
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Eye of Ugin teased the word "Eldrazi", yet there were none.

Shield of Kaldra spoke of Helm of Kaldra, a card not yet printed

Point? This isn't something new for them to do.
Eye of Ugin was printed in Zendikar block, which includes Rise of the Eldrazi.
Shield of Kaldra was printed in Mirrodin block, which includes Fifth Dawn.
This card, printed in M11, will not be part of the Scars of Mirrodin block. So yes, this WOULD be something new for them to do.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:17 AM   #8
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Evacuation.

Nothing new at all.

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Old 06-22-2010, 10:18 AM   #9
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I think the main reason this is a definitive no is because it is in a core set. Were they to introduce something like this it would be in a set like Shards where the specifics of that set's world dictated that "purple" mana made sense.

(Also, I for one, would not like to see another color added, even for a block).
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:22 AM   #10
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Looks more like 1 to me, or s.

I helped make a purple set a while back:
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It was a horrible idea. Snow is already the 6th color anyway.

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The order of the planets is (clockwise): Red, Blue, Green, White, Black ("purple"), and Colorless. The order you suggest is ignoring spatial clues, which clearly puts the blue planet between the red and green ones.

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When has colorless or "brown" mana ever been represented in any form? I could be wrong, but I don't recall any cards or pictures that do so.
The original card frame for artifact/colorless spells was brown, does that count for you?

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Old 06-22-2010, 10:30 AM   #12
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Im interested in the idea, but i dont see it coming, yet anyway! maybe after mirrodin!
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Eye of Ugin was printed in Zendikar block, which includes Rise of the Eldrazi.
Shield of Kaldra was printed in Mirrodin block, which includes Fifth Dawn.
This card, printed in M11, will not be part of the Scars of Mirrodin block. So yes, this WOULD be something new for them to do.
Obviously the fact that this is not part of a block has been brought up numerous times as if it's relevant. I'm merely saying that if this is purple, it's a teaser for things to come. So the best response I have to it being part of a core set rather than part of a block:

How useful was Vampire Nocturnus before the sets that came to follow?

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Old 06-22-2010, 10:39 AM   #14
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It's pretty hard to dispute that this isn't a reference to purple, whether or not it's a big tease or not is the question.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:42 AM   #15
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The "Black" planet probably does represent colorless mana. The Purple planet is more than likely black. Even a glimpse at the new Liliana's Caress and Liliana Vess show that black magic is also portrayed as purple. Same with the new Lich card.
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