Another failed time waster deleted. At least when i go to sell all the **** i bought for MTG the 10 fetches and Shocklands should get a ****load of money back!
Please do youself a favour dont play MTG. Its not just virtual world time you're wasting but real life time.
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
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I was thinking of a similar idea. Cast Through Time and Maelstrom Nexus both seems like really fun cards to play with in a format like this. However, I think that your list needs a few more instants and sorceries, and a few less random fatties. I'll post more specifics later...great idea!
Just for reference, a cascaded spell won't be rebounded. Both are still really fun cards however and it doesn't mean that shouldn't be in the same deck.
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Just for reference, a cascaded spell won't be rebounded. Both are still really fun cards however and it doesn't mean that shouldn't be in the same deck.
To elaborate a little, the rebound mechanic only triggers "if you cast it from your hand". Therefore, Bituminous Blast will rebound, but the Blightning you cascade into will not.
I was thinking of a similar idea. Cast Through Time and Maelstrom Nexus both seems like really fun cards to play with in a format like this. However, I think that your list needs a few more instants and sorceries, and a few less random fatties. I'll post more specifics later...great idea!
Hmm yes i agree. Creatures are all over the place. I need more utility dudes.
-Tyrant of Jund
- Knight of New Alara (who wins by beats anyway!)
- Other random creatures, focus not on mulicolour beats but more big spells, with cascade/combos
Definatly need some grave hate, instant removal etc...
Thanks btw. I could really use the help im mustering all my mtg thought power to do this...so many options in 5c its crazy.
+ Eternal Witness, for starters
+ Blue counter stuff? Big Spell bombs?
+ Grave recursion
Im going to go cut the ☺☺☺☺ out of some creatures, i look foward to your advice. Just remember the point is to get either Cast Through Time/Nexus into play and do stuff!
And yes i am aware that rebound doesnt cascade or whatever and that the copies dont but who cares. Its about getting 2for1 on giant bombs anyway i can, either reound, cascade or copy. It doesnt matter.
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
- Already got cloven/omen/grove in
- I dont like Planar Cleansing because of my enchtchments.
- Im loving Pulse/Srping/Spitting Image
- Echo Mage im thinking of but if i can find some room
- Horay you found the make all color land i forgot the name of
Thanks for suggestions, im taking many on but for now its bed, keep em coming
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
- Already got cloven/omen/grove in
- I dont like Planar Cleansing because of my enchtchments.
- Im loving Pulse/Srping/Spitting Image
- Echo Mage im thinking of but if i can find some room
- Horay you found the make all color land i forgot the name of
Thanks for suggestions, im taking many on but for now its bed, keep em coming
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
This was and is the final build. It has been performing terremdously well in both single player and multiplayer. The ability to answer a multitude of threats as well as providing insane, explosive plays lets it do everything well but with no single specifc play that can be identified therfore easily hated. The cascading makes for fun and random plays. Sometimes you'll cascade blind, sometimes you rig it to do specific amounts of damage.
For eg...cascading off Brilliant Ultimatum is just plain fun. You get Brilliant and a 5 Mana Card. You play up to 6 cards off 2. Its random and fun for everyone. The other option is recasting the General to Cascade into a rigged Violent Ultimatum or multiple creatures to tigger his Vindicate for a precison tool.
Card 100 was crucible of worlds, this is banned i am told. So this will become Time Warp another Tutor, or something else.
My Choices - Obvious Plays/Ideal Postion
Maelstrom Nexus, the meat/bones of the deck. Cast Artisan of Kozliek, returning my General from the GY, Cascading into Engima Sphinx, Cascades into Malestrom Archangel. Yeah this stuff happens all the time. Violent Ultimatum, im looking for Cast Through Time, Cloven Casting to support this is i can. Depends on the board. This shuts down games. Cast at turn 5 with Fist of Suns, its just plain stupid! Fist of Suns, if a game winning Fat is in my hand i'll tutor for this instead. Turn 4-5 Ulamog/Progenitus is good. Sometimes not game winning but good. This is a more 1v1 play. In multiplayer i become a target. I dont run Emrakul simply because bribery is really lame. Although sweepers kill Emrakul so im still debating which, but Bloom Tender lets me hard cast Ulamog regularly.
The cards that arent the obvious plays or hidden synergy
-Prismatic Omen- Coalition Victory ftw/Cheap mana fixer
-Phyrexian Reclamtion - Qasali Pridemage/Dimir House Gaurd/General Fetching/Fleshbag Maurder, most hit the bin, getting them back is good
-Jace, the Mind Sculptor, rigs amazing Cascades, bounces the General to recast for a cascade of 9
-Liliana Vess, rigs the top
-Unmake, deals with my own Ulamog, that mostly gets Mind Controlled
- Fleshbag Maurder provides such amazing general hate i run whenever i can. Early Lightning Greaves Rafiq, meet Fleshbag.
-Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, not a lot of blue control hate in this deck but Teferi fits this role well. He baits their counter and if resolved all the better
- Timewarp + Charnelhoard Wurm is funny
- General + Scarecrone + Conspiracy or Scuttlemutt, make my creatures in Changelings for Vindicate when i want it. Done this once, it was so damn awsome.
1v1 and Multiplayer.
Multiplayer is more fun. I can set my board up with multiple enchamtents, Fist of Suns/Nexus/Plansewalkers/Cast Through Time. Hold the fort with massive board control with 4 Sweepers/Removal. Then go bannanas!
1v1 is a pretty savage affair. All efforts are made for a turn 5 Violent Ultimatum/Progentius/Mass Cascade Chain/Cruel/Ulamog. Qsali Pridemage/Permant descturction/Legacy weapon shuts down combo players. Nexus + a 1 drop tutors Crypt for some gravehate for GY shenanigans.
Impressed with the flexibility of the deck, the consitent mana base which worked out and the sheer fun of it. The plays make themselves generating huge tempo gains with stupid cascades, you then adapt to whatever happened. It's random, fun and never the same. The cascades really help against control matchups where i can get a 2for1, therefore negating the damage Counterspell would do against a single target. Or you rig the deck for surgical strikes therefore controling the board/players.
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Good cards and points---
-Birds was a lazy choice because i have it thats why i run it. I cascaded of Progenitus into Birds of Paradise, no joke. Everyone laughed. It is one of the weaker cards.
- Im not sure about the Sphynx too, i've never actually cascaded into it or drawn off it yet! It seems good in theory, has fairly large mana and okay body for attacks and triggering cascade. Promise of Power is another spare card that was laying about but fills a generic roll. Though once Casted Through Time w/entwine cost droped a 7/7 Demon then a 12/12 demon. Drawing 10 cards and making 19/19 worth of dudes wasn't bad. I do like Minds Eye. The bigger the CMC the better. Seems good for Azami matchups
- Austere Command, im worried that it gets turned on me. I dont want it to be played from my deck to blow up all my crucial enchantments. I still win/function without them, being able to cast big fats with ramp but the tempo loss is a serious blow. A lot of people play very compedetive mono blue control decks, its the reason i dont run Emrakul, they steal my own stuff with great fequency
- The sweeper package is doing fairly well, Dimir House Gaurd loves their CMC, i would love a copy of Overwhelming Forces but nobody has it!
- Sledge is out of place, something way better could be there, im thinking Sphinx of the Steel Wind but nobody nor store has a copy.
- Regrowth would be better, ill see where i can pick up a copy
Thank you, and everyone, yet again.
ps-Worlds isn't banned? Man so many different places so many different rules. Apparantly these people were upset with Strip Mine and Worlds, i say get some more Artifact/Grave-hate. But thats just me!
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Jund Charm is decent multi-color (Cloven Casting) grave-hate. It also plays nicely with Cast Through Time and is not too tough to replicate with the Djinn.
Got a new ammended list coming soon, in a few hours when im home. The final final list with no universally banned cards or Emrakul Although i never care about people using it people arent happy when you cheat it into play with Fist of Suns or Brilliant Ultimatum. Its not very skill intensive either and i don't want my wins to be cheap.
Today someone stole my Reaper King then used Rite of Replication with kicker cost on it. It was going to destroy 25 permanants. WHAT THE ☺☺☺☺! That is a pretty amazing 2 card win con considering 1 of those cards is the general himself! That was just bonkers, luckily somone had an o-stone in response...Needless to say, Rite of Replication has been included!
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Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Some fairly major changes, felt worthy of a bump and to let you'll know how its going again.
+Avenger
+Primeval
+Vindicate
+Dream Halls
+Sac Lands
+Acadmeny Rector
+more
I'm really happy with the mana base now. I always got the advice, dont run Filter lands in 5c. With triple colour spells all over the place they are downright amazing. Tweaks to basic and Vivid lands according to the importance/amount of lands. No sesne running Swamps/Marsh when P.Tower/Urborg make black, and trying to cut down on tap lands.
Dream Halls was the most significant change. Pure devestation. Conflux----get 4 cards and Counsel, nuke their board, recast Conflux, repeat...and repeat...Time Warp, Genesis was pitched, nets Enternal Witness...there is no specific instant win but they usally scoop.
See the front section for an explanation of choices, combos, more
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
I coincidently saw your deck the day i made the addition lol...i've been talking to a few legacy players, they mentioned dream halls (i've been looking for a cheap way in) i asked what is that..."oh you pitch some things, play Conflux and win"...i only realised yesterday how ☺☺☺☺ing amazing it would be for just about every aspect of the deck wether its discarding, cascading or instant winning!
I also agree with some people in your thread to throw in some more tutors (Demonic Tutor) or cheap rucursion (Enternal Witness) you'll still get amazing value even if you do cascade into them. The tempo/advantage you get for a 2for1 in a slower format is crazy even if you don't hit fat. Academy Rector is pretty darn good, but you would need some type of sac support.
One of my most satisfying cascades was Reaper King -> Artisan of Kozilek recur Malestrom Archangel...thats how you make a board presence out of nothing...Just don't run Birds of Paradise...cascading for 11 and netting a bird was embarssing.
Given up magic because a)its a waste of money b)it sucks the joy out of life c)im doing more interesting things than tapping pieces of plastic that have no intrinsic value.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Just don't run Birds of Paradise...cascading for 11 and netting a bird was embarssing.
That's precisely why I don't run things like Eternal Witness or Academy Rector, as cascading into them (while still amazing), does nothing for the ultimate goal of the deck (which, in mine, is not winning; it's getting out Dream Halls). Hell, the deck originally started out as having it be the ONLY card with cmc less than six, but obviously that was not working.
In your deck, however, having them makes perfect sense. The recursion and tutorability of practically any of your win conditions makes it incredibly valuable.
Similarly, I was thinking a good card for you to have originally would be Sorin Markov, but after looking at the list I may actually suggest Magister Sphinx instead due to his ability to get pitched for two additional colors.
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Current Playable EDH Decks:19
Kozilek XXX
Kemba Equips WWW
Proliferation (Daggson) UUU
Sheoldred's Stax BBB
Toshiro BBB
Mikaeus BBB
Zirilan RRR
Grand Arbiter WUW
Sygg Breaks The Game UBU
Epic Experiment (Melek) URU
Edric's Golems UGU
Rakdos, Lord of Riots RBR
Infect (Radha) RGR
Sharuum Flicker WUB
Ruhan's Hammer WUR
Tariel GoodStuff WBR
BEAST WARS! (Mayael) WRG
Whore.Dec (Gwendolyn di Corci) URB
Dream Halls (Child of Alara) :symwu::symbr::symgw:
Please do youself a favour dont play MTG. Its not just virtual world time you're wasting but real life time.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
To elaborate a little, the rebound mechanic only triggers "if you cast it from your hand". Therefore, Bituminous Blast will rebound, but the Blightning you cascade into will not.
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
Hmm yes i agree. Creatures are all over the place. I need more utility dudes.
-Tyrant of Jund
- Knight of New Alara (who wins by beats anyway!)
- Other random creatures, focus not on mulicolour beats but more big spells, with cascade/combos
Definatly need some grave hate, instant removal etc...
Thanks btw. I could really use the help im mustering all my mtg thought power to do this...so many options in 5c its crazy.
+ Eternal Witness, for starters
+ Blue counter stuff? Big Spell bombs?
+ Grave recursion
Im going to go cut the ☺☺☺☺ out of some creatures, i look foward to your advice. Just remember the point is to get either Cast Through Time/Nexus into play and do stuff!
And yes i am aware that rebound doesnt cascade or whatever and that the copies dont but who cares. Its about getting 2for1 on giant bombs anyway i can, either reound, cascade or copy. It doesnt matter.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
This might backfire, but what about Dream Halls?
Edit: Also, Collective Restraint might help you with swarm or aggro strategies.
- Demonic Tutor
- Vampiric Tutor
- Enlightened Tutor
- Idyllic Tutor
- Mystical Tutor
- Sterling Grove
Then, I'd add a couple more cards to make your spells better:
- Cloven Casting (IF you get enough multi-colored spells)
- Echo Mage
I would add Prismatic Omen because it's the best 5cc fixing spell available.
All of the basic ramp spells get better when copied or rebounded. I'd find a way to put more of them in.
In addition to Eternal Witness and Izzet Chronarch, I'd put more Regrowth effects like Restock and Mnemonic Wall and Vengeful Rebirth.
Finally, I'd get a few more "big spells":
- Primal Command
- Bribery
- Austere Command
- Planar Cleansing
Or, if you don't want to go for that many big spells, you could just include a lot of cheaper removal spells that would get better with multiple copies, like:
- Temporal Spring
- Maelstrom Pulse
- Vindicate
- Sadistic Sacrament
- Spitting Image
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
- Already got cloven/omen/grove in
- I dont like Planar Cleansing because of my enchtchments.
- Im loving Pulse/Srping/Spitting Image
- Echo Mage im thinking of but if i can find some room
- Horay you found the make all color land i forgot the name of
Thanks for suggestions, im taking many on but for now its bed, keep em coming
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
I think Coalition Victory is banned in this format.
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
Not according to Gatherer.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Coalition Victory is Banned.
UB Grimgrin, Corpse-BornUB
WRG Marath, Will of the Wild GRW
RGOmnath, Locus of RageGR
WBTeysa, Orzhov ScionBW
URThe Locust GodRU
W(W/R)RAkiri, Line-SlingerW(W/R)R
For eg...cascading off Brilliant Ultimatum is just plain fun. You get Brilliant and a 5 Mana Card. You play up to 6 cards off 2. Its random and fun for everyone. The other option is recasting the General to Cascade into a rigged Violent Ultimatum or multiple creatures to tigger his Vindicate for a precison tool.
It reliably finds Malestrom Nexus by or on Turn 5. That or Fist of Suns. I say turn 4 Progenitus is strong.
1 Reaper King
Ramp
2 Birds of Paradise
3 Farseek
4 Bloom Tender
5 Darksteel Ingot
6 Coalition Relic
7 Reap and Sow
Enchantment
8 Prismatic Omen
9 Conspiracy
10 Maelstrom Nexus
11 Cloven Casting
12 Cast Through Time
Artifacts
13 Tormod's Crypt
14 Lightning Greaves
15 Behemoth Sledge
16 Fist of Suns
17 Legacy Weapon
Tutors
18 Demonic Tutor
19 Sterling Grove
20 Diabolic Tutor
21 Dimir House Guard
22 Brainspoil
23 Demand (Supply/Demand)
24 Beseech the Queen
25 Conflux
Recursion
26 Phyrexian Reclamation
27 Recollect
28 Eternal Witness
Draw
29 Sphinx of Magosi
30 Promise of Power
Plansewalker
31 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
32 Liliana Vess
Sweeper/Sroc/Instant
33 Martial Coup
34 Terminate
35 Putrefy
36 Unmake
37 Damnation
38 Wrath of God
39 Day of Judgement
40 Last Stand
41 Brilliant ultimatum
42 Cruel Ultimatum
43 Violent Ultimatum
44 Qasali Pridemage
45 Scarecrone
46 Scuttlemutt
47 Fleshbag Marauder
48 Izzet Chronarch
49 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
50 Maelstrom Archangel
51 Enigma Sphinx
52 Charnelhoard Wurm
53 Empyrial Archangel
54 Artisan of Kozilek
55 Bringer of the Black Dawn
56 Progenitus
57 Ulamog, The Infinte Grye
Lands
58 City of Brass
59 Pillar of the Paruns
60 Reflecting Pool
61 Vesuva
62 Grand Coliseum
63 Crystal Quarry
64 Exotic Orchard
Tri
65 Arcane Sanctum
66 Crumbling Necropolis
67 Jungle Shrine
68 Savage Lands
69 Seaside Citadel
Vivid
70 Vivid Marsh
71 Vivid Meadow
72 Vivid Grove
73 Vivid Creek
74 Vivid Crag
Shock
75 Blood Crypt
76 Breeding Pool
77 Godless Shrine
78 Hallowed Fountain
79 Overgrown Tomb
80 Sacred Foundry
81 Steam Vents
82 Stomping Ground
83 Temple Garden
84 Watery Grave
85 Arid Mesa
86 Scalding Tarn
87 Marsh Flats
88 Verdant Catacombs
89 Misty Rainforest
90 Terramorphic Expanse
Basic/Bog
91 (1) Bojuka Bog
92 (1) Swamp
93 (1) Plain
94 (1) Moutain
95 (1) Moutain
96 (1) Forest
97 (1) Forest
98 (1) Island
99 (1) Island
100 Insert your unbanned card
Card 100 was crucible of worlds, this is banned i am told. So this will become Time Warp another Tutor, or something else.
My Choices - Obvious Plays/Ideal Postion
Maelstrom Nexus, the meat/bones of the deck. Cast Artisan of Kozliek, returning my General from the GY, Cascading into Engima Sphinx, Cascades into Malestrom Archangel. Yeah this stuff happens all the time.
Violent Ultimatum, im looking for Cast Through Time, Cloven Casting to support this is i can. Depends on the board. This shuts down games. Cast at turn 5 with Fist of Suns, its just plain stupid!
Fist of Suns, if a game winning Fat is in my hand i'll tutor for this instead. Turn 4-5 Ulamog/Progenitus is good. Sometimes not game winning but good. This is a more 1v1 play. In multiplayer i become a target. I dont run Emrakul simply because bribery is really lame. Although sweepers kill Emrakul so im still debating which, but Bloom Tender lets me hard cast Ulamog regularly.
The cards that arent the obvious plays or hidden synergy
-Prismatic Omen- Coalition Victory ftw/Cheap mana fixer
-Phyrexian Reclamtion - Qasali Pridemage/Dimir House Gaurd/General Fetching/Fleshbag Maurder, most hit the bin, getting them back is good
-Jace, the Mind Sculptor, rigs amazing Cascades, bounces the General to recast for a cascade of 9
-Liliana Vess, rigs the top
-Unmake, deals with my own Ulamog, that mostly gets Mind Controlled
- Fleshbag Maurder provides such amazing general hate i run whenever i can. Early Lightning Greaves Rafiq, meet Fleshbag.
-Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, not a lot of blue control hate in this deck but Teferi fits this role well. He baits their counter and if resolved all the better
- Timewarp + Charnelhoard Wurm is funny
- General + Scarecrone + Conspiracy or Scuttlemutt, make my creatures in Changelings for Vindicate when i want it. Done this once, it was so damn awsome.
1v1 and Multiplayer.
Multiplayer is more fun. I can set my board up with multiple enchamtents, Fist of Suns/Nexus/Plansewalkers/Cast Through Time. Hold the fort with massive board control with 4 Sweepers/Removal. Then go bannanas!
1v1 is a pretty savage affair. All efforts are made for a turn 5 Violent Ultimatum/Progentius/Mass Cascade Chain/Cruel/Ulamog. Qsali Pridemage/Permant descturction/Legacy weapon shuts down combo players. Nexus + a 1 drop tutors Crypt for some gravehate for GY shenanigans.
Impressed with the flexibility of the deck, the consitent mana base which worked out and the sheer fun of it. The plays make themselves generating huge tempo gains with stupid cascades, you then adapt to whatever happened. It's random, fun and never the same. The cascades really help against control matchups where i can get a 2for1, therefore negating the damage Counterspell would do against a single target. Or you rig the deck for surgical strikes therefore controling the board/players.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
I like this deck a lot.
Cheers,
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- Why do you run Birds of Paradise over something more stable like Sylvan Scrying or Nature's Lore or even Sakura-Tribe Elder?
- Why are Sphinx of Magosi and Promise of Power your best choices for card-drawing? Since you have access to all five colors, I would think that there are better choices out there. I'm thinking that Mind's Eye, Phyrexian Arena, and Rhystic Study would all be better and cheaper.
- Your choice of sweepers also seems a little weak. Why play Damnation, Wrath of God, and Day of Judgment if you can play Austere Command, Rout, and Hallowed Burial?
- Behemoth Sledge seems a little out of place.
- Recollect could probably be Regrowth.
Couple of other fun cards that might work in this build are Echo Mage, Djinn Illuminatus, Temporal Spring, Naya Charm, and Bant Charm.
EDIT: Crucible of Worlds is definitely NOT banned.
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
Good cards and points---
-Birds was a lazy choice because i have it thats why i run it. I cascaded of Progenitus into Birds of Paradise, no joke. Everyone laughed. It is one of the weaker cards.
- Im not sure about the Sphynx too, i've never actually cascaded into it or drawn off it yet! It seems good in theory, has fairly large mana and okay body for attacks and triggering cascade. Promise of Power is another spare card that was laying about but fills a generic roll. Though once Casted Through Time w/entwine cost droped a 7/7 Demon then a 12/12 demon. Drawing 10 cards and making 19/19 worth of dudes wasn't bad. I do like Minds Eye. The bigger the CMC the better. Seems good for Azami matchups
- Austere Command, im worried that it gets turned on me. I dont want it to be played from my deck to blow up all my crucial enchantments. I still win/function without them, being able to cast big fats with ramp but the tempo loss is a serious blow. A lot of people play very compedetive mono blue control decks, its the reason i dont run Emrakul, they steal my own stuff with great fequency
- The sweeper package is doing fairly well, Dimir House Gaurd loves their CMC, i would love a copy of Overwhelming Forces but nobody has it!
- Sledge is out of place, something way better could be there, im thinking Sphinx of the Steel Wind but nobody nor store has a copy.
- Regrowth would be better, ill see where i can pick up a copy
Thank you, and everyone, yet again.
ps-Worlds isn't banned? Man so many different places so many different rules. Apparantly these people were upset with Strip Mine and Worlds, i say get some more Artifact/Grave-hate. But thats just me!
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
Yeva (88/92 foils)
Raff
Scarab
Rakdos
Wort ($50 budget, 94/97 foils)
Trostani
I also really like this deck concept, would really like to play something similar.
Plague Wind is a great choice, combined with Bloom Tender to kick it out early.
Got a new ammended list coming soon, in a few hours when im home. The final final list with no universally banned cards or Emrakul Although i never care about people using it people arent happy when you cheat it into play with Fist of Suns or Brilliant Ultimatum. Its not very skill intensive either and i don't want my wins to be cheap.
Today someone stole my Reaper King then used Rite of Replication with kicker cost on it. It was going to destroy 25 permanants. WHAT THE ☺☺☺☺! That is a pretty amazing 2 card win con considering 1 of those cards is the general himself! That was just bonkers, luckily somone had an o-stone in response...Needless to say, Rite of Replication has been included!
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=353661
1 Reaper King
Creatures
1 Bloom Tender
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Eternal Witness
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Academy Rector
1 Genesis
1 Izzet Chronarch
1 Maelstrom Archangel
1 Primeval Titan
1 Enigma Sphinx
1 Avenger of Zendikar
1 Charnelhoard Wurm
1 Bringer of the White Dawn
1 Bringer of the Blue Dawn
1 Bringer of the Black Dawn
1 Terastodon
1 Artisan of Kozilek
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Progenitus
Tutors/Draw
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Insidious Dreams
1 Promise of Power
1 Supply / Demand
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Conflux
Board Control
1 Unmake
1 Putrefy
1 Vindicate
1 Wrath of God
1 Damnation
1 Last Stand
1 Cruel Ultimatum
1 Violent Ultimatum
1 Bant Charm
1 Rite of Replicaiton
1 Time Warp
1 Praetor's Counsel
Enchantment/PWer
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Prismatic Omen
1 Sterling Grove
1 Leyline of Anticipation
1 Jace, the Mindsculptor
1 Liliana Vess
1 Conspiracy
1 Dream Halls
1 Maelstrom Nexus
Artifacts
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Mindslaver
Ramp/facts
1 Sol Ring
1 Coalition Relic
1 Farseek
1 Cultivate
1 Reap and Sow
1 Explosive Vegitation
Lands
1 Exotic Orchard
1 City of Brass
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Grand Coliseum
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Jungle Shrine
1 Arcane Sanctum
1 Savage Lands
1 Seaside Citadel
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scadling Tarn
1 Marsh Flats
1 Vivid Crag
1 Vivid Meadow
1 Vivid Grove
1 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
1 Hallowed Foutain
1 OVergrown Tomb
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Godless Shrine
1 Breeding Pool
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Watery Grave
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Twilight Mire
1 Sunken Ruins
1 Fetid Health
1 Graven Cairns
2 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Mountain
1 Plain
Some fairly major changes, felt worthy of a bump and to let you'll know how its going again.
+Avenger
+Primeval
+Vindicate
+Dream Halls
+Sac Lands
+Acadmeny Rector
+more
I'm really happy with the mana base now. I always got the advice, dont run Filter lands in 5c. With triple colour spells all over the place they are downright amazing. Tweaks to basic and Vivid lands according to the importance/amount of lands. No sesne running Swamps/Marsh when P.Tower/Urborg make black, and trying to cut down on tap lands.
Dream Halls was the most significant change. Pure devestation. Conflux----get 4 cards and Counsel, nuke their board, recast Conflux, repeat...and repeat...Time Warp, Genesis was pitched, nets Enternal Witness...there is no specific instant win but they usally scoop.
See the front section for an explanation of choices, combos, more
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
UB Grimgrin, Corpse-BornUB
WRG Marath, Will of the Wild GRW
RGOmnath, Locus of RageGR
WBTeysa, Orzhov ScionBW
URThe Locust GodRU
W(W/R)RAkiri, Line-SlingerW(W/R)R
Such a shame Coalition Victory is banned. This deck would love it.
Kemba Equips WWW
Proliferation (Daggson) UUU
Sheoldred's Stax BBB
Toshiro BBB
Mikaeus BBB
Zirilan RRR
Grand Arbiter WUW
Sygg Breaks The Game UBU
Epic Experiment (Melek) URU
Edric's Golems UGU
Rakdos, Lord of Riots RBR
Infect (Radha) RGR
Sharuum Flicker WUB
Ruhan's Hammer WUR
Tariel GoodStuff WBR
BEAST WARS! (Mayael) WRG
Whore.Dec (Gwendolyn di Corci) URB
Dream Halls (Child of Alara) :symwu::symbr::symgw:
I coincidently saw your deck the day i made the addition lol...i've been talking to a few legacy players, they mentioned dream halls (i've been looking for a cheap way in) i asked what is that..."oh you pitch some things, play Conflux and win"...i only realised yesterday how ☺☺☺☺ing amazing it would be for just about every aspect of the deck wether its discarding, cascading or instant winning!
I also agree with some people in your thread to throw in some more tutors (Demonic Tutor) or cheap rucursion (Enternal Witness) you'll still get amazing value even if you do cascade into them. The tempo/advantage you get for a 2for1 in a slower format is crazy even if you don't hit fat. Academy Rector is pretty darn good, but you would need some type of sac support.
One of my most satisfying cascades was Reaper King -> Artisan of Kozilek recur Malestrom Archangel...thats how you make a board presence out of nothing...Just don't run Birds of Paradise...cascading for 11 and netting a bird was embarssing.
I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
That's precisely why I don't run things like Eternal Witness or Academy Rector, as cascading into them (while still amazing), does nothing for the ultimate goal of the deck (which, in mine, is not winning; it's getting out Dream Halls). Hell, the deck originally started out as having it be the ONLY card with cmc less than six, but obviously that was not working.
In your deck, however, having them makes perfect sense. The recursion and tutorability of practically any of your win conditions makes it incredibly valuable.
Similarly, I was thinking a good card for you to have originally would be Sorin Markov, but after looking at the list I may actually suggest Magister Sphinx instead due to his ability to get pitched for two additional colors.
Kemba Equips WWW
Proliferation (Daggson) UUU
Sheoldred's Stax BBB
Toshiro BBB
Mikaeus BBB
Zirilan RRR
Grand Arbiter WUW
Sygg Breaks The Game UBU
Epic Experiment (Melek) URU
Edric's Golems UGU
Rakdos, Lord of Riots RBR
Infect (Radha) RGR
Sharuum Flicker WUB
Ruhan's Hammer WUR
Tariel GoodStuff WBR
BEAST WARS! (Mayael) WRG
Whore.Dec (Gwendolyn di Corci) URB
Dream Halls (Child of Alara) :symwu::symbr::symgw:
EDH: Xenagos, God of Revels.