[GP] Shrieking Grotesque & Leyline of the Void

rancored_elf · 01-09-2006, 03:57 AM

Put together from a couple different sources... this stuff is 85% for sure.

Shrieking Grotesque -

Creature - Gargoyle (C)
Flying
When Shrieking Grotesque comes into play, if

was spent to play Shrieking Grotesque, target player discards a card.
2/1

Leyline of the Void -

Enchantment (R)
If Leyline of the Void is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it in play.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard, remove it from the game instead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ravenous Rats +

+ flying + 1 power = Shrieking Grotesque
A pretty solid common, I guess.

I'm not sure where the Leyline fits into things, since it's just a slightly improved Planar Void. I'm also not sure why you need this in play on turn 0. Possible sideboard card against recursion decks?

Environmetal · 01-09-2006, 03:59 AM

I really like the gargoyle - the rats are often just a speedbumb, but this might trade for something.

I sure hope I don't open to many leylines, as there are many rare cards I'd rather have

WinterAssassin · 01-09-2006, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rancored_elf

I'm not sure where the Leyline fits into things, since it's just a slightly improved Planar Void. I'm also not sure why you need this in play on turn 0. Possible sideboard card against recursion decks?

Dredge, perhaps?

Or anything at all which requires cards to be (put) in the graveyard: Reanimator, Threshold, Flashback etc. - there are lots of strategies this hoses, particularly coming out turn 0!

The fact that it doesn't affect you is a nice bonus, though obviously not enough to make this worth the

at face value - it's only really good when you board in 4 against a deck you know it'll screw over, and ideally that you mulligan to get one in your opening hand and therefore for free.

Shrieking Grotesque is pretty good, but only if you can guarantee paying the

.

EDIT: as later posts have pointed out, the Leyline also nullifies those damn Dragon Legends! This is a very strong, if situational, sideboard card.

Anyone else noticed you don't need to be playing black to use the "free" ability?!

Von Kriplespac · 01-09-2006, 04:04 AM

Hehe, hoho...there goes Kokusho, and Keiga, and Yosei, and countless other Reanimation decks!

Mesa likey disa for da sidaboarda!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rancored_elf

I'm not sure where the Leyline fits into things, since it's just a slightly improved Planar Void. I'm also not sure why you need this in play on turn 0. Possible sideboard card against recursion decks?

Except that the cards never hit the graveyard in the first place. Four of this in the sideboard against Kokusho, Keiga, Grave-Shell...definitely.

The Furry · 01-09-2006, 04:05 AM

The black Leyline is incredibly powerful in any control with black in it. Sideboard requirement for any MBC mirrors I would think.

Peregrine Falcon · 01-09-2006, 04:07 AM

It is a much improved planar void. As it stands, planar void is a triggered ability where the card has a brief time in the graveyard where recursion is possible. This Leyline is a replacement effect, entirely shuting down recursion altogether.

Both cards rock, by the way. Thanks RE and source.

ChaoZ · 01-09-2006, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rancored_elf

Put together from a couple different sources... this stuff is 85% for sure.

Shrieking Grotesque -

Creature - Gargoyle (C)
Flying
When Shrieking Grotesque comes into play, if

was spent to play Shrieking Grotesque, target player discards a card.
2/1

Leyline of the Void -

Enchantment (R)
If Leyline of the Void is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it in play.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard, remove it from the game instead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ravenous Rats +

+ flying + 1 power = Shrieking Grotesque
A pretty solid common, I guess.

I'm not sure where the Leyline fits into things, since it's just a slightly improved Planar Void. I'm also not sure why you need this in play on turn 0. Possible sideboard card against recursion decks?

So, now we know an Ultimate Dredge Hoser. I bet, that Leyline of the Void will be a chase rare in first weeks after release. Gorgoyle looks sweet in limited.

Jlo · 01-09-2006, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rancored_elf

Leyline of the Void -

Enchantment (R)
If Leyline of the Void is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it in play.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard, remove it from the game instead.

Well at least how we have something more solid to go against Ichorid decks. What do you guys think? Or will this card see wouldn't play?
Anyways, thanks for the info!

chaosof99 · 01-09-2006, 04:14 AM

Yay, hooray for Void. This will be a sweet sideboard card against CAL and Friggorid. The grotesque is pretty solid in limited.
Edit: I normally don't want to brag, but...

Von Kriplespac · 01-09-2006, 04:16 AM

I tell you what would be hilarious? If this card wrecks Standard's showcase decks so much that all five colors run four copies gambling on having it in opening hand. That would be weird. I suppose White always have Samurai of the Pale Curtain...

sir Artus · 01-09-2006, 04:17 AM

Layline is prolly going to see sooo much play... and moratorium stone seems reluctant with this one

Mattreis32 · 01-09-2006, 04:20 AM

Shrieking Grotesque is very nice in limited. Its playable even if you aren't using any black mana. This and Blind Hunter already make two good, common B/W fliers.

The leyline totally wrecks the Ichorid deck in extended. You might have to mulligan once or twice to find it, but I don't see how that deck can win if you have the Leyline in play.

Lightster · 01-09-2006, 04:20 AM

Grotesque does indeed seem sweet for limited. As for the Leyline, I find it quite humourous that it comes right after the Extended season, so the PT doesn't get entirely shut down by this card... Except for MUC. Real exciting match that would have been. EDIT: Wee for exagerations because of first glance. I'm sure many decks would have just sided in a bunch of naturalizes or seed spark or boomerang against it. Wouldn't shut down the entire PTQ, but it sure would have messed up the meta game. I could see it having been possible to be in the sideboards of decks with no black, simply for this reason.

But the both the White and Black Leylines seem to be a very oriented to the Orzhov, what with the tokens and RFG. Ok, tokens wasn't really Orzhov, but Teysa uses them, as does Twilight Drover and others I'm sure I missed.

rancored_elf · 01-09-2006, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WinterAssassin

it's only really good when you board in 4 against a deck you know it'll screw over, and ideally that you mulligan to get one in your opening hand and therefore for free.

Wouldn't that be hilarious to sideboard in 4 copies against a deck it's an auto-win against (some graveyard recursion combo deck) and mulligan... and mulligan again.... and mulligan again... and finally you're down to drawing three, there it is, drop it, and the opponent scoops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterAssassin

as later posts have pointed out, the Leyline also nullifies those damn Dragon....

Yeah, I forgot about Kokusho and friends. That puts the effectiveness in standard up a notch, definitely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterAssassin

Anyone else noticed you don't need to be playing black to use the "free" ability?!

Yeah, all the Leylines are like that. I hope at least one major deck abuses them this way - first turn dropping a Leyline it would never be able to play. That'd be sweet. But I'm sure R&D made them all with that in mind, so they're not too abusive when played out of pie.

Joseph Penney · 01-09-2006, 04:22 AM

This makes things very interesting...I really like Shrieking Grotesque...good flavor. The Leyline, however, is just good in general...since Ichorid.dec has been bugging the crap out of me as has Cal, I'm hoping that I can at least open this one as the only Leyline I get =P

01-09-2006, 03:57 AM	#1
rancored_elf change we can imagine Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: peak everything Posts: 8,984	[GP] Shrieking Grotesque & Leyline of the Void Put together from a couple different sources... this stuff is 85% for sure. Shrieking Grotesque - Creature - Gargoyle (C) Flying When Shrieking Grotesque comes into play, if was spent to play Shrieking Grotesque, target player discards a card. 2/1 Leyline of the Void - Enchantment (R) If Leyline of the Void is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it in play. If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard, remove it from the game instead. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ravenous Rats + + flying + 1 power = Shrieking Grotesque A pretty solid common, I guess. I'm not sure where the Leyline fits into things, since it's just a slightly improved Planar Void. I'm also not sure why you need this in play on turn 0. Possible sideboard card against recursion decks? __________________ "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

01-09-2006, 04:14 AM	#9
chaosof99 Textbased Lifeform MTGS Writer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 2,137	Yay, hooray for Void. This will be a sweet sideboard card against CAL and Friggorid. The grotesque is pretty solid in limited. Edit: I normally don't want to brag, but... __________________ Thanks to ChibiSwan for the Signature. Last edited by chaosof99 : 01-09-2006 at 04:16 AM.

01-09-2006, 04:17 AM	#11
sir Artus Experienced Mage Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Siddah, Personal Planar Pocket Posts: 62	Layline is prolly going to see sooo much play... and moratorium stone seems reluctant with this one __________________ Can't stand the light, can't stand the dark. http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/...lor_isblue.jpg Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

01-09-2006, 04:22 AM	#15
Joseph Penney Wizard Mentor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wouldn't you like to know? Posts: 517	This makes things very interesting...I really like Shrieking Grotesque...good flavor. The Leyline, however, is just good in general...since Ichorid.dec has been bugging the crap out of me as has Cal, I'm hoping that I can at least open this one as the only Leyline I get =P __________________ "If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit." "A severed foot is the ultimate stalking stuffer." "I love you guys, thanks for comin' to my special." - Mitch Hedburg (1968-2005) We love you too Mitch, we love you too. "Girls are like Voltron: the more you stick together, the better it gets." SE

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01-09-2006, 03:59 AM	#2
Environmetal Common Mage Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere fighting capitalism Posts: 47	I really like the gargoyle - the rats are often just a speedbumb, but this might trade for something. I sure hope I don't open to many leylines, as there are many rare cards I'd rather have

01-09-2006, 04:05 AM	#5
The Furry Common Mage Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 40	The black Leyline is incredibly powerful in any control with black in it. Sideboard requirement for any MBC mirrors I would think.

01-09-2006, 04:16 AM	#10
Von Kriplespac Wanesplalker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,918 Blog Entries: 3	I tell you what would be hilarious? If this card wrecks Standard's showcase decks so much that all five colors run four copies gambling on having it in opening hand. That would be weird. I suppose White always have Samurai of the Pale Curtain...

01-09-2006, 04:20 AM	#12
Mattreis32 Archmage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 769	Shrieking Grotesque is very nice in limited. Its playable even if you aren't using any black mana. This and Blind Hunter already make two good, common B/W fliers. The leyline totally wrecks the Ichorid deck in extended. You might have to mulligan once or twice to find it, but I don't see how that deck can win if you have the Leyline in play.