[GP] Daggerclaw Imp and Vedalken Plotter

fuff · 01-13-2006, 11:19 AM

Here we go, some new cards:

Daggerclaw Imp
2B
Creature - Imp (U)
Flying
Daggerclaw Imp can´t block.
3/1

Vedalken Plotter
2U
Creature - Vedalken Wizard (U)
When Vedalken Plotter comes into play, exchange control of target land you control and target land an opponent controls.
1/1

The source is quite reliable, imo (Caranthir's source).

Belgareth · 01-13-2006, 11:21 AM

Well I don't think it matters if these are real or not as they are both Quite bland and boring . However thankyou anyway and thankyou source.

ravenight · 01-13-2006, 11:22 AM

wow, if this is true, that flyer is pretty sweet.

S.NEO · 01-13-2006, 11:22 AM

Oh, they arent too good ^^'. The Plotter could be funny to play, like giving one of those lands that self-destruct after using some counters or such and getting a nice dual xD (or forbidden orchard? counters backup could help)... but even then its not great >.<

The black flier should be a bat XP

theBlackMage · 01-13-2006, 11:23 AM

Wow, both are very nice monocolored cards.

The imp is a great stick. 3 power for a 3 CC is excellent and flying makes it that much better. The blocking clause is nothing, as you'll always be attacking with this guy. I love it.

The Plotter is a good source of mana disruption, and on a stick to boot! I can see this guy getting bounced many, many times.

-theBlackMage

blue · 01-13-2006, 11:23 AM

hrm...

The flyer is really aggressive in limited. but that plotter seems like ... I dunno. I guess Oboro + Plotter.

Absolutionis · 01-13-2006, 11:26 AM

They're both decent picks in limited draft. I wouldn't be too upset if I had to choose one of these.

They're raher useless in anything but limited, but oh well...

Not too impressive, but tot terrible either. They're playable enough...

ravenight · 01-13-2006, 11:29 AM

wouldn't bouncing the land you were giving away cause the ability to be countered? Or would it still resolve because it still has one target? If so, this guy + any of the soratami is nasty.

EDIT: Fetch lands too.

Wall of Jank · 01-13-2006, 11:30 AM

I like the Imp...but the Wizard is kinda janky.
The only use I could see for him would be stealing dual-lands in limited.

Spiral · 01-13-2006, 11:32 AM

i think the imp is not good. for 3 mana a 3/1 flyer... the plotter i think is quite good to bother a bit you opponent.

Darkever · 01-13-2006, 11:34 AM

We won't see those cards in constructed I think...

Still the Imp is nice! Black doesn't get a 3-power flying creature for

very often.

Cheesepoptart · 01-13-2006, 11:35 AM

has anyone checked if Daggerclaw or Plotter are in the orb? both should be 2 if the wordings are correct.. id do it myself, but im at school and it took long enough to load this page..

If its not done when i get home (FIVE hours.. ) ill do it.. lol

EDIT: guess so.. solves that then

id say this guy just said he had the same source as car... (forgot sn)

but why would a source change outlets? from a strong poster, to a low poster??? why i ask you.. why..

im actually gonna call fake.. chaff.. but still fake chaff

miseatron · 01-13-2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiral

i think the imp is not good. for 3 mana a 3/1 flyer...

You must not play limited that often. Three power in a flier for 3cc is reeeally good. I'm going to love it.

fuff · 01-13-2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheesepoptart

has anyone checked if Daggerclaw or Plotter are in the orb? both should be 2 if the wordings are correct.. id do it myself, but im at school and it took long enough to load this page..

If its not done when i get home (FIVE hours.. ) ill do it.. lol

daggerclaw and plotter got two hits each.

carrion pigeons · 01-13-2006, 11:37 AM

3rd turn exchange for a Karoo, that you're opponent never got to use seems like a good deal, especially if you give them a land they can't use for colored mana.

Exchange for a Sunhome, or a Vhitu-Ghazi, or a Svogthos, or a Duskmantle, even, can really hurt your opponents strategy. Also cool with cards like Peel from Reality.

It's a card Dimir decks will like to play, if there's enough support from them to be playable in RRG draft.

01-13-2006, 11:19 AM	#1
fuff Experienced Mage Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PV Posts: 108	[GP] Daggerclaw Imp and Vedalken Plotter Here we go, some new cards: Daggerclaw Imp 2B Creature - Imp (U) Flying Daggerclaw Imp can´t block. 3/1 Vedalken Plotter 2U Creature - Vedalken Wizard (U) When Vedalken Plotter comes into play, exchange control of target land you control and target land an opponent controls. 1/1 The source is quite reliable, imo (Caranthir's source). __________________ Sig by: Poukis Oh boy, it's coming! my extendo-sig

01-13-2006, 11:22 AM	#4
S.NEO Soujiro Seta Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Barcelona ^^ Posts: 1,408	Oh, they arent too good ^^'. The Plotter could be funny to play, like giving one of those lands that self-destruct after using some counters or such and getting a nice dual xD (or forbidden orchard? counters backup could help)... but even then its not great >.< The black flier should be a bat XP __________________ Guy de Maupassant: El patriotismo es el huevo de donde nacen las guerras. Jorge Luis Borges: El patriotismo es la menos perspicaz de las pasiones. Oscar Wilde: El patriotismo es la virtud de los depravados. Limited ftw :3 Last edited by S.NEO : 01-13-2006 at 11:25 AM.

01-13-2006, 11:23 AM	#5
theBlackMage Ascended Mage Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massillon, Ohio Posts: 189	Wow, both are very nice monocolored cards. The imp is a great stick. 3 power for a 3 CC is excellent and flying makes it that much better. The blocking clause is nothing, as you'll always be attacking with this guy. I love it. The Plotter is a good source of mana disruption, and on a stick to boot! I can see this guy getting bounced many, many times. -theBlackMage __________________ "Now hatred is by far the longest pleasure; Men love in haste, but they detest at leisure." -George Gordon Byron

01-13-2006, 11:29 AM	#8
ravenight Ascended Mage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 318	wouldn't bouncing the land you were giving away cause the ability to be countered? Or would it still resolve because it still has one target? If so, this guy + any of the soratami is nasty. EDIT: Fetch lands too. Last edited by ravenight : 01-13-2006 at 11:31 AM.

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01-13-2006, 11:26 AM	#7
Absolutionis God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: You live inside ME! Posts: 3,287	They're both decent picks in limited draft. I wouldn't be too upset if I had to choose one of these. They're raher useless in anything but limited, but oh well... Not too impressive, but tot terrible either. They're playable enough...

01-13-2006, 11:30 AM	#9
Wall of Jank Common Mage Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31	I like the Imp...but the Wizard is kinda janky. The only use I could see for him would be stealing dual-lands in limited.

01-13-2006, 11:32 AM	#10
Spiral User 9534 World Project Leader Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: - SNEAKYHOMUNCULUSPOINTS: 30 Posts: 3,122	i think the imp is not good. for 3 mana a 3/1 flyer... the plotter i think is quite good to bother a bit you opponent.

01-13-2006, 11:34 AM	#11
Darkever Wizard Mentor Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 589	We won't see those cards in constructed I think... Still the Imp is nice! Black doesn't get a 3-power flying creature for very often.