I wanted to build a deck that was heavily based on bouncing permanents, I originally tried having Heidar temporal adept and even time elemental in the same deck but wasnt nearly as effective as having the man of the hour himself in the command zone.
I am putting this up not cause I have been meaning to for some time now I will try to put up card descriptions and interactions in the next day or two. I wanted to get it up so i can get critique on my choices and see if I can justify others. I know I have some sub par cards so please point them out cause it can be difficult to be subjective on my own at times.
The main card this deck is built around would be portcullis it serves both to stop the aggro on the board and let my creatures come in go under then when i blink/bounce it they come in for a second round of CITP abilities. This is currently why I am running the man-o-war and adept so when they go in they help clear the field if ppl had creatures before the portcullis and when i bounce/blink they help again to reduce the creature count.
I also try to abuse Heidar as much as possible. reality acid plus him is 5 mana sac triggers pucas mischief lets me trade things and bounce them back to my hand just to replay (ie duplicant) the untappers let him get more and more powerful as the game progresses as i continue to bounce board positions for a fraction of the cost they paid to play them. I do fear all three artifact ones are too many since they untap creatures only.
I wonder how many people would find it annoying if I complained just as much about creature combat, because I dislike games where people do nothing but cast creatures, butt heads and do boring combat math?
needs more thawing glaciers, cold steel heart, scrying sheets and mouth of ronam, all add to the snow count and fill gaps. Also id be on the hunt for some aquire to steal Blightsteels.. I like the list. looking forward to seeing it in action
Thanks for the suggestions
I did add the glaciers however I have run the other snow lands in various mono U lists for some time now, they just dont tickle my fancy. They dont make blue mana and worse yet they dont receive a bonus from gauntlet or lens so it never seems worth it to me when i rarely end up using their abilities.
I should put a mystifying maze in here tho since it will help me remove creatures that were down before the port.
I'd like to find a space for the shard as it will allow me to save heidars ability for my opponents stuff. what do you suggest cutting?
I am having the most trouble finding space so any suggestions for cutting cards is appreciated. still need to find a space for treasure mage and 7 mana vindicate. and maybe mirrorworks
I wonder how many people would find it annoying if I complained just as much about creature combat, because I dislike games where people do nothing but cast creatures, butt heads and do boring combat math?
dude where did you find an invoke pregiduce! I have been after one for a while. I like the updates man. I can't wait to see it in action.. you should download cocatrice.. that way we can get some games with havil..
Havill actually traded it to me for some cards im buying online for him. is that that multiplayer client? i have heard things of it havent looked into it seriously yet
I wonder how many people would find it annoying if I complained just as much about creature combat, because I dislike games where people do nothing but cast creatures, butt heads and do boring combat math?
Stasis is always a brutal card to play with repeating bounce. You can return it at the end of the turn of the player before you, and you get to untap each turn but no one else does. Of course, this might get you kicked out of a casual table pretty quickly. Other traditional Stax cards like Tangle Wire, Smokestacks, Possessed Portal, Trinisphere, etc can have their symmetry broken by the fact that you can remove them for the duration of your turn.
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I am interested in adding a crystal shard but i dont have any ideas on what to remove!
so any help there will be appreciated.
I have thought about adding such cards, this deck started cause my old mono u list was based off trying to make a soft lock work around cards like mists of stagnation temporal distortion trade embarrgo and had heidar temporal adept and time elemental but it just didnt work out. i intentionally left out stasis because its too brutal. i could get a copy and leave it in the board and only use it sometimes but its definitely something that would cause groans at first and then maybe killed later.
I may look to add stax/tangle wire but those are both cards that were more in consideration for if i build arcuum with a heavy proliferate theme in it. however if the next set has as much proliferate as this one it might not happen.
Overall i dont want prison to be the theme of the deck. I know i use port and then ward of bones is worse but they just set restrictions whereas stax/tanglewire/stasis are all crippling and non interactive.
however you do have a good point with clique i should try to find a spot for her to deal with problem perms.
I wonder how many people would find it annoying if I complained just as much about creature combat, because I dislike games where people do nothing but cast creatures, butt heads and do boring combat math?
made a spot for crystal shard and took out skullclamp/spawning pit.
still want to add treasure mage.
and looking for critiques on any bad cards.
will be adding a section for card choices soon.
I wonder how many people would find it annoying if I complained just as much about creature combat, because I dislike games where people do nothing but cast creatures, butt heads and do boring combat math?
I'm not a huge fan of N's Disk. In my experience, if I want to sweep, I need it NOW. Playing it a turn before you pop it just gives the table a turn to compensate for the card advantage you will get by beating it out of your life total.
Heres the deck in alphabetical order:
1 AEther Adept
1 Draining Whelk
1 Duplicant
1 Gilded Drake
1 Kederekt Leviathan
1 Man-o'-War
1 Mulldrifter
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Sundering Titan
1 Trinket Mage
1 Vendillion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Contagion Engine
1 Parallax Tide
1 Portcullis
1 Reality Acid
1 Spine of Ish Sah
1 Fatestitcher
1 Master Transmuter
1 Rimewind Taskmage
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Drift of Phantasms
1 Fabricate
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Planar Portal
1 Reshape
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Transmute Artifact
1 Vedalken AEthermage
1 Equilibrium
1 Future Sight
1 Heightened Awareness
1 Honden of Seeing Winds
1 Invoke Prejudice
1 Puca's Mischief
1 Cloudstone Curio
1 Crystal Shard
1 Journeyer's Kite
1 Magewright's Stone
1 Mimic Vat
1 Orochi Hatchery
1 Puppet Strings
1 Reito Lantern
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Thousand-Year Elixir
1 Voltaic Key
1 Ward of Bones
Mass Removal
1 All Is Dust
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Cloud Key
1 Everflowing Chalice
1 Extraplanar Lens
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Worn Powerstone
// Lands
1 Academy Ruins
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Riptide Laboratory
1 Thawing Glaciers
1 Tolaria West
33 Snow-Covered Island
Notable Interactions
Heidar, Rimewind Master + CITP creatures/Parallax Tide" target="blank">Parallax Tide Reality Acid" target="blank">Reality Acid Portcullis
Portcullis + CITP creatures
Portcullis + Master Transmuter
Master Transmuter + Sundering Titan/Duplicant
Pucas Mischief + Heidar, Rimewind Master
Portcullis + Ward of Bones
The main card this deck is built around would be portcullis it serves both to stop the aggro on the board and let my creatures come in go under then when i blink/bounce it they come in for a second round of CITP abilities. This is currently why I am running the man-o-war and adept so when they go in they help clear the field if ppl had creatures before the portcullis and when i bounce/blink they help again to reduce the creature count.
I also try to abuse Heidar as much as possible. reality acid plus him is 5 mana sac triggers pucas mischief lets me trade things and bounce them back to my hand just to replay (ie duplicant) the untappers let him get more and more powerful as the game progresses as i continue to bounce board positions for a fraction of the cost they paid to play them. I do fear all three artifact ones are too many since they untap creatures only.
more to come here
Trinkets
- Sol Ring
- Everflowing Chalice
- Mana Vault
- Voltaic Key
- Skullclamp
- Expedition Map
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Orochi Hatchery
Treasures-1 Island + Thawing Glaciers
- 1 Island + Tolaria West
- Nuisance Engine + Orochi Hatchery
- Back to Basics + Invoke Prejudice
- Sapphire Medallion + Spine of Ish Sah
- Glen Elendra Archmage" target="blank">Glen Elendra Archmage + Vendillion Clique
- skullclamp + urza's blueprints
- spawning pit + Crystal shard
Orochi Hatchery
Sundering Titan
Draining Whelk
Kederekt Leviathan
Parallax Tide
Steel Hellkite
Treasure Mage
Let me know what you think and what to cut!
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I did add the glaciers however I have run the other snow lands in various mono U lists for some time now, they just dont tickle my fancy. They dont make blue mana and worse yet they dont receive a bonus from gauntlet or lens so it never seems worth it to me when i rarely end up using their abilities.
I should put a mystifying maze in here tho since it will help me remove creatures that were down before the port.
I'd like to find a space for the shard as it will allow me to save heidars ability for my opponents stuff. what do you suggest cutting?
I am having the most trouble finding space so any suggestions for cutting cards is appreciated. still need to find a space for treasure mage and 7 mana vindicate. and maybe mirrorworks
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StaffStasis is always a brutal card to play with repeating bounce. You can return it at the end of the turn of the player before you, and you get to untap each turn but no one else does. Of course, this might get you kicked out of a casual table pretty quickly. Other traditional Stax cards like Tangle Wire, Smokestacks, Possessed Portal, Trinisphere, etc can have their symmetry broken by the fact that you can remove them for the duration of your turn.
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so any help there will be appreciated.
I have thought about adding such cards, this deck started cause my old mono u list was based off trying to make a soft lock work around cards like mists of stagnation temporal distortion trade embarrgo and had heidar temporal adept and time elemental but it just didnt work out. i intentionally left out stasis because its too brutal. i could get a copy and leave it in the board and only use it sometimes but its definitely something that would cause groans at first and then maybe killed later.
I may look to add stax/tangle wire but those are both cards that were more in consideration for if i build arcuum with a heavy proliferate theme in it. however if the next set has as much proliferate as this one it might not happen.
Overall i dont want prison to be the theme of the deck. I know i use port and then ward of bones is worse but they just set restrictions whereas stax/tanglewire/stasis are all crippling and non interactive.
however you do have a good point with clique i should try to find a spot for her to deal with problem perms.
still want to add treasure mage.
and looking for critiques on any bad cards.
will be adding a section for card choices soon.