Help me out here. I want to know if I can create infinite mana with Worldgorger Dragon, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, and some lands. Does it work? Trying to run through the stack order in my head is making my brain hurt.
If I understand it right, you're making a copy of the Dragon in response to it's ETB ability. Token exiles everything, that means the LTB trigger of the real dragon will go off, returning... nothing. Then, the real dragon's ability resolves, exiling the token, bringing back everything, including all your lands, untapped. Repeat.
I do believe that this works out for infinite mana.
Yes, that works if you can respond to the Dragon's exile trigger by activating Kiki-Jiki. The token copy's trigger goes on the stack above the original's, and resolves, exiling everything you control but the token itself. That triggers the original Dragon's return ability, but since nothing was exiled yet by the original Dragon, nothing gets returned. Then, the original Dragon's exile trigger resolves, exiling the token, which brings back everything the token exiled, including the original Dragon and a fresh untapped Kiki-Jiki and some fresh untapped lands. The original Dragon triggers again, you tap some lands and tap Kiki-Jiki in response. Rince and Repeat.
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Help me out here. I want to know if I can create infinite mana with Worldgorger Dragon, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, and some lands. Does it work? Trying to run through the stack order in my head is making my brain hurt.
Yes, this combo works.
You need to have everything in place when you drop Worldgorger Dragon and respond to its ETB trigger.
Card Dragon LTB resolves and returns nothing.
Card Dragon ETB resolves and exiles Token Dragon, triggering Token Dragon LTB.
-Card Dragon LTB
Card Dragon LTB resolves, returning Card Dragon, Kiki, and lands, all untapped.
-Card Dragon ETB
You make a token copy of Dragon, triggering its ETB
-Token Dragon ETB
-Card Dragon ETB
As you can see, we are now back at the beginning of the loop. Assuming no responses, you can continue this loop accumulating mana until you choose not to copy the Dragon with Kiki and end the loop. (Card Dragon ETB will resolve, exiling your lands + Kiki).
Hope that made sense, post if you need more clarification.
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I do believe that this works out for infinite mana.
The latest Comprehensive Rules are also good, and can be found here.
You need to have everything in place when you drop Worldgorger Dragon and respond to its ETB trigger.
You make a token of the Dragon.
STACK (top):
-Token Dragon ETB
-Card Dragon ETB
Token ETB trigger resolves, exiling Card Dragon, Kiki, and lands, triggering Card Dragon LTB
-Card Dragon LTB
-Card Dragon ETB
Card Dragon LTB resolves and returns nothing.
Card Dragon ETB resolves and exiles Token Dragon, triggering Token Dragon LTB.
-Card Dragon LTB
Card Dragon LTB resolves, returning Card Dragon, Kiki, and lands, all untapped.
-Card Dragon ETB
You make a token copy of Dragon, triggering its ETB
-Token Dragon ETB
-Card Dragon ETB
As you can see, we are now back at the beginning of the loop. Assuming no responses, you can continue this loop accumulating mana until you choose not to copy the Dragon with Kiki and end the loop. (Card Dragon ETB will resolve, exiling your lands + Kiki).
Hope that made sense, post if you need more clarification.