This game will begin in a Day 1. Role PMs are being sent out in the next few minutes.
Once you receive and read your role, confirm your receipt of it by return PM to me. This pregame will be a good opportunity for you to ask me any questions you may have about your role.
6:59 PM EST – New York City
Even at such an advanced hour on a weekday, New York City’s famed hustle and bustle is still in full swing.
A few hungry-eyed food merchants eagerly pounce on the obvious tourists, extolling the virtues of their particular make of processed meat tubes.
Two impatient men decked in wrinkled suits brush past each other, simultaneously excusing themselves with a hand wave that is nothing but an afterthought.
Attention is earned, not spent freely in the Big Apple.
So when 12 unremarkable residents across the sprawling metropolis stumble a bit before coming to a halt, nobody bats an eyelash.
They all stop in lockstep, but being spread miles apart, it would take someone perched high above it all to notice.
7:01 PM EST – The Goodyear Blimp, somewhere above the city.
“…I mean, even this guy?” questions Jerry, poking at one of 12 small monitors on the panel in front of him.
“I don’t make mistakes, Jerald.”
“Uh, yeah…no. I, uh, didn’t say you made a mistake, of course not. S’just…”
“He doesn’t look like anything special, is that right Jerald?”
Hesitation.
“That’s right, Sir. He’s kind of plain-lookin’ is all,” Jerry replies.
“Fortunately, physical attributes are quite removed from the remarkable mental capabilities locked beneath.”
The impressively-built man in the cockpit pauses and gestures broadly at the monitors, where 12 human shapes had each begun to walk in a stilted but determined manner.
“And in the case of these particular…specimens,” smiles the leader, eyes darting excitedly between screens, “the untapped potential is stunning.”
7:27 PM EST – 249 Edgecombe Avenue, New York City, NY
“249 Edgecombe Avenue.”
“249 Edgecombe Avenue.”
“2…49 Edgecombe Avenue.”
One by one, 12 distinctly different people file into the long-abandoned theater house, each muttering the building’s address partly to themselves and partly out loud.
Once all the diverse men and women are inside, the chatter stops.
Several alarmed glances are exchanged.
Finally, someone breaks the silence,
“Does anyone have any idea why we’re here? Or where here is?”
“…..”
“Or who we are?”
12 panicked faces meet one another, devoid of answers.
Time to find yourselves.
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In Amnesia Mafia, self-discovery and deception are the heart of the experience.
With our walls pulled down, and inhibitions laid bare, who are we?
Is the identity we create for ourselves one generated from some deep-seeded “self”, or are we assigning talents that don’t actually fit?
The primary mechanic in this game is one of recalled memories and abilities.
Fulfill your memory trigger, and you’ll come to remember who you actually are, and everything that comes with your identity.
Did you underestimate the full extent of your power?
Of course, there are other worries on the agenda; even though regaining your memory is sure to be crucial.
Among you are a few with undefinable bad intentions; An evil so deep-rooted that it’s apparent from the very beginning whose side you are on.
Not to mention, 12 clouded amnesiacs gathering mysteriously at the same building.
Could that really be a coincidence? Who or what could be pulling the strings?
Welcome to Amnesia Mafia.
Players in this game will begin with a randomly assigned role which includes a “Moniker”.
These names have absolutely no bearing on role information or abilities.
They are assigned as a proxy to be used until you remember your true name.
Here is a very basic example of how the mechanic works.
Moniker: Sheep
Alignment: Town
Win Condition: Generic WinCon
Starting Ability: You have no abilities.
Memory Trigger: Vote for the moderator (This is strictly an example!)
True Name: Dakota Hunter
Recalled Ability: Votes you cast on the moderator count as two votes. (Again...example)
Trigger PM: With a start, you remember you are actually an adorable puppy. Who can cast a spell on the moderator-owner. Votes you cast on the moderator count as two votes.
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THE PLAYER LIST (Names will be bolded as players confirm receipt of PM)
Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
THE RULES (Which I shamelessly stole and modified from Seppel's game):
1.) When you are dead, you may make one "bah" or "go town" post. That is all.
2.) Do not edit or delete your posts. Do not quote any private messages, including Role PMs. Do not threaten to be modkilled. You will be modkilled if you do any of those things.
3.) No crypto-claiming or crypto-text.
4.) Everyone has the power to vote. Vote in bold or your vote does not count.
5.) You do not need to unvote before changing your vote, although it is appreciated.
6.) It takes a majority to lynch, and 50% to end a day with no lynch.
7.) The moderator will not answer game-related questions in the thread. If you have a question, send the moderator a PM.
8.) Have fun.
REGARDING INACTIVITY:
I understand that real life often takes precedence over mafia.
If you are reasonable active, posting at least once every couple days, there should not be any problems.
If other players ask for a prod, or your activity is very poor, I will prod you.
Failure to respond to a prod within 48 hours will result in a replacement, unless a pre-reprieve is asked for.
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Very much alive: 6.) Iso 9.) kill-joy 11.) DaggerMzztrTetris (r. Dagger)
2.) TFF
3.) Chibi C'thulhu
4.) mystery meat of doom
5.) Wrath_of_Dog
6.) Wolf with a Bass
Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
Sorry for the delay everyone, I often work nights, so it's tough for me to post in the evening.
All players have confirmed!
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It wasn't dark in the abandoned theater when the 12 of you showed up, but the sudden deluge of light pouring in from the spotlights above causes nearly all of you to shield your eyes with your hands.
"Uh...welcome everybody!"
A painfully nervous, bespectacled man works his way out onto the main stage.
"My name is Jerry. Er...I'm sure you all have questions. But, uh, I'm not supposed to answer any of them."
An angry rumbling starts from the midst of the group.
"Hey! Wait a second! It's not all that, uh...bad!
Mr. Lym -- uh..I mean, my boss, wants you all to test each other out a bit before you learn why you're here. Or who you guys are!
B-but, you should also know that the doors are locking...right now."
The exterior doors ferociously slam shut at the last syllable.
"And...uh..what was it I was supposed to say here? Oh, right. And I forgot where I put the keys!"
It is now Day 1. You may begin posting!
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
thus it only takes 4 random votes to get me lynched, and i've seen that happen to me before (I think i've gotten 5 random vote in a mini before).
Anyhow, Random FoS MandersHex
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Loran, that is harsh... and I thought MINE was harsh.
In fact... I am wondering if we should even go and RVS here guys. I have a feeling it will get us in trouble here. Maybe a better idea is to claim monikers? I just wanna see if the mod gave us funny ones. Considering they have no bearing on the role and are just placeholders, I see no reason not to.
Loran, that is harsh... and I thought MINE was harsh.
In fact... I am wondering if we should even go and RVS here guys. I have a feeling it will get us in trouble here. Maybe a better idea is to claim monikers? I just wanna see if the mod gave us funny ones. Considering they have no bearing on the role and are just placeholders, I see no reason not to.
That depends. Does your role has anything to do with monikers?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
So, you would object to a single vote placed onto you just to confirm it will indeed be a double vote?
Only way to confirm is to lynch me. If you want to lynch me use FOSes until you have a majority.
But then again, why would you want to confirm that drawback in the first place? Curious.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Ah, wait, are you saying that the double votes won't show up in the votecount?
That was my original impression. I've since been corrected; they will apparently show up in the vote count. I'd prefer that people proceed with my FOS plan however, until everyone checks in and random votes someone else....i don't trust idiots not to vote before checking my warning in the first place.
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And in his first game, he was on a scum team including cpe and LookingforReality. Ouch.
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It's not like you have an aversion to having that drawback being confirmed, right? Since it is true and all?
Spin so fast? Tsk Tsk Dagger. UnFOS, FOS Dagger.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
That was my original impression. I've since been corrected; they will apparently show up in the vote count. I'd prefer that people proceed with my FOS plan however, until everyone checks in and random votes someone else....i don't trust idiots not to vote before checking my warning in the first place.
Of course. Do note however, that I would still be interested to see at least a single vote on you to confirm the double vote thingy sometimes after to ensure you are not running a gambit.
Of course. Do note however, that I would still be interested to see at least a single vote on you to confirm the double vote thingy sometimes after to ensure you are not running a gambit.
What gambit would that be, pray tell? And what purpose would it serve?
Why not a vote? Why FOS? Can you not vote?
That's for me to know and you to be curious about.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Once upon a time, I stumbled onto a mafia subforum. And as they said, the rest is history.
So, kill-joy. Which name of the above 12 you don't like?
That's the thing. I currently have no qualms with anyone here. It's a bit too early in the game to know even partially if anyone is scum or not, imo.
And I just feel random voting does little to aid that goal.
I mean, the best anyone really gets is omgus responses which have an equal chance of being tells as just being a knee jerk reaction. Thats the impression I got from watching people play Mafia.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
That was my original impression. I've since been corrected; they will apparently show up in the vote count. I'd prefer that people proceed with my FOS plan however, until everyone checks in and random votes someone else....i don't trust idiots not to vote before checking my warning in the first place.
Which is why I am suggesting EVERYONE skips RVS this game. I have a similar vote problem. Granted it is not as bad as yours, but it is similar.
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Either seppel has double vote or loran didn't understand his ability?
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Either seppel has double vote or loran didn't understand his ability?
^ Is obviously not reading the thread.
Anyway, it is appearing as if everyone has some sort of vote handicap. As has been said, this is gonna be fun. I hate to call for an all out mass claim, but we really, REALLY should go and claim any handicaps we do have. As it is, if Loran is town, an incorrect vote is gonna get him lynched most likely.
Also, if you don't get what I am saying as of now we have this:
Loran: Votes count twice on him
Roja: Nonvoter
Myself: I have a lynch threshold one lower than normal. (Yes new info but it should be out there. I dunno if it will show somehow on the votecount though.)
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Anyway, it is appearing as if everyone has some sort of vote handicap. As has been said, this is gonna be fun. I hate to call for an all out mass claim, but we really, REALLY should go and claim any handicaps we do have. As it is, if Loran is town, an incorrect vote is gonna get him lynched most likely.
I can't believe I am saying this...
Who here is up for a moniker/handicap claim?
Moniker doesn't seem to have much to do with anything. I don't think we will gain much from that.
And I don't think handicaps are a good idea either. It's probable that not everyone has one that they can prove, ergo getting us equally nowhere.
I'm all for just not voting for people until we have a little bit more evidence.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm not willing to put forth what my handicap is yet. There's plenty of time for that later, and I feel like it's just going to get taken advantage of.
On that note, vote kill-joy for, well, killing my joy.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sigh. Please people shut up and think before posting. If there's no urgent need to disclaim part of your role, such as your HANDICAP, STFU.
This has been a public service announcement from Loran16. LEARN FROM IT.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Well, that proves loran's double vote thing for sure. If he ends up flipping scum obviously that'll be good for us, but if town, I see this going bad very quickly.
I'm not willing to put forth what my handicap is yet. There's plenty of time for that later, and I feel like it's just going to get taken advantage of.
On that note, vote kill-joy for, well, killing my joy.
Holding it ransom, more like
Give me 10 million cookies by this time tomarrow.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Moniker doesn't seem to have much to do with anything. I don't think we will gain much from that.
And I don't think handicaps are a good idea either. It's probable that not everyone has one that they can prove, ergo getting us equally nowhere.
I'm all for just not voting for people until we have a little bit more evidence.
Yea,h I guess I can see the point on the not claiming the handicap part. Though I think loran's and roja's handicap did need to get out there, especially Loran's. If he didn't say anything we could have accidentally lynched him in RVS very easily. I'm not discounting loran could be scum, but with so little so far, no chances should have been taken.
On the moniker thing. I dunno, I think there may be something to gain on the moniker part.
Also, to those who have not posted, don't dare do an RVS post. There is no need to do so this game and it can only get us into trouble. There is plenty to talk about without RVSing in this game.
So, what's your guys's stories? Where'd you guys hear about mafia?
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I'm not willing to put forth what my handicap is yet. There's plenty of time for that later, and I feel like it's just going to get taken advantage of.
You will not obtain my cookies. I will fight you to the death for them. >:(
FYI: I wouldn't fight this guy for cookies.
Oh, for those that don't know, Loran will not remember that I'm a girl. It's ok. He's explained to me why he doesn't, and I'd rather him not remember, haha.
So don't hound him for forgetting.
Edit: and I really don't think there'll be anything to gain from moniker, either.
Only way to confirm is to lynch me. If you want to lynch me use FOSes until you have a majority.
But then again, why would you want to confirm that drawback in the first place? Curious.
I took this as "It does not show double votes just I get lynched as they were", I sometimes have special moments :-/.
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He did think that when he posted that. He said so a couple of posts later.
Why are you not paying attention?
Then wait why did they say I didn't read the thread, I need sone coffee, In confused.
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Then wait why did they say I didn't read the thread, I need sone coffee, In confused.
When you posted, it was already established that Loran would have 2 votes for every 1. There was also a period where he thought the vote counts would not reflect the extra votes, but they do, as Alpha has already shown us.
So, both of your previous posts have you posting information you were speculating on, but the rest of us knew, because we read the thread.
Unvote because it has occurred to me that we could possibly activate someone's ability by giving them a certain number of votes. Jeebus, there's a lot to consider this game. :/
Tamarin, why are you so eager to get us to post our monikers?
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
When you posted, it was already established that Loran would have 2 votes for every 1. There was also a period where he thought the vote counts would not reflect the extra votes, but they do, as Alpha has already shown us.
So, both of your previous posts have you posting information you were speculating on, but the rest of us knew, because we read the thread.
Explaining the obvious to captain obvious is not really effective.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Unvote because it has occurred to me that we could possibly activate someone's ability by giving them a certain number of votes. Jeebus, there's a lot to consider this game. :/
Tamarin, why are you so eager to get us to post our monikers?
Figured it be obvious by now, my trigger involves them. Not gonna say exactly how, but it involves them.
Also, as far as activating triggers, I feel it is two fold. On the one hand, town should want to wake up any abilities ASAP, since as it is we have to assume this is a mountainous situation ATM. Any edge town can get is helpful. Not only that, we have to assume that we lose our starting ability as soon as we recall our real ability. On the bad side though, we could accidentally awaken scum, which would be obviously bad.
@mandershex: Assuming the worse case scenario here on everyone having a handicap. I think we need to play it better safe than sorry in this case.
Figured it be obvious by now, my trigger involves them. Not gonna say exactly how, but it involves them.
Also, as far as activating triggers, I feel it is two fold. On the one hand, town should want to wake up any abilities ASAP, since as it is we have to assume this is a mountainous situation ATM. Any edge town can get is helpful. Not only that, we have to assume that we lose our starting ability as soon as we recall our real ability. On the bad side though, we could accidentally awaken scum, which would be obviously bad.
God, please stop talking.
@mandershex: Assuming the worse case scenario here on everyone having a handicap. I think we need to play it better safe than sorry in this case.
So, do you maintain that it was not premature for you to make that statement? Is that what you're telling me?
Figured it be obvious by now, my trigger involves them. Not gonna say exactly how, but it involves them.
Also, as far as activating triggers, I feel it is two fold. On the one hand, town should want to wake up any abilities ASAP, since as it is we have to assume this is a mountainous situation ATM. Any edge town can get is helpful. Not only that, we have to assume that we lose our starting ability as soon as we recall our real ability. On the bad side though, we could accidentally awaken scum, which would be obviously bad.
@mandershex: Assuming the worse case scenario here on everyone having a handicap. I think we need to play it better safe than sorry in this case.
Yeah, I just wanted to see what you had to say about it. But being that we don't know if you're scum or not, I don't think it's the best of ideas to intentionally activate anyone's amnesia condition yet. The other thing I'm worried about is, if we do indeed lose our abilities once our memory trigger is activated, how do we know our new ability isn't going to be detrimental to the town? That's why I'm currently against your idea of a moniker claim. Maybe later on if we feel it could net an advantage against the scum, IF you've been cleared by then. Otherwise, I'm not going to advocate blindly activating something that could kill us townies off, whether intentional or accidental.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Seriously, stop giving away role information for nothing.
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Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Premature? Personally, no. I can see where you think it COULD be premature. I am not saying we should NOT vote anyone, just be very careful with our votes and skip the RVS phase, which we seemed to have done quite well as far as skipping RVS is concerned.
Seriously, stop giving away role information for nothing.
/barn
There's plenty of time to play with triggered abilities and figure all of this out later on. I want to hear from everyone before we even consider doing something we might regret.
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AMNESIA MAFIA!
This game will begin in a Day 1. Role PMs are being sent out in the next few minutes.
Once you receive and read your role, confirm your receipt of it by return PM to me. This pregame will be a good opportunity for you to ask me any questions you may have about your role.
6:59 PM EST – New York City
Even at such an advanced hour on a weekday, New York City’s famed hustle and bustle is still in full swing.
A few hungry-eyed food merchants eagerly pounce on the obvious tourists, extolling the virtues of their particular make of processed meat tubes.
Two impatient men decked in wrinkled suits brush past each other, simultaneously excusing themselves with a hand wave that is nothing but an afterthought.
Attention is earned, not spent freely in the Big Apple.
So when 12 unremarkable residents across the sprawling metropolis stumble a bit before coming to a halt, nobody bats an eyelash.
They all stop in lockstep, but being spread miles apart, it would take someone perched high above it all to notice.
7:01 PM EST – The Goodyear Blimp, somewhere above the city.
“…I mean, even this guy?” questions Jerry, poking at one of 12 small monitors on the panel in front of him.
“I don’t make mistakes, Jerald.”
“Uh, yeah…no. I, uh, didn’t say you made a mistake, of course not. S’just…”
“He doesn’t look like anything special, is that right Jerald?”
Hesitation.
“That’s right, Sir. He’s kind of plain-lookin’ is all,” Jerry replies.
“Fortunately, physical attributes are quite removed from the remarkable mental capabilities locked beneath.”
The impressively-built man in the cockpit pauses and gestures broadly at the monitors, where 12 human shapes had each begun to walk in a stilted but determined manner.
“And in the case of these particular…specimens,” smiles the leader, eyes darting excitedly between screens, “the untapped potential is stunning.”
7:27 PM EST – 249 Edgecombe Avenue, New York City, NY
“249 Edgecombe Avenue.”
“249 Edgecombe Avenue.”
“2…49 Edgecombe Avenue.”
One by one, 12 distinctly different people file into the long-abandoned theater house, each muttering the building’s address partly to themselves and partly out loud.
Once all the diverse men and women are inside, the chatter stops.
Several alarmed glances are exchanged.
Finally, someone breaks the silence,
“Does anyone have any idea why we’re here? Or where here is?”
“…..”
“Or who we are?”
12 panicked faces meet one another, devoid of answers.
Time to find yourselves.
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In Amnesia Mafia, self-discovery and deception are the heart of the experience.
With our walls pulled down, and inhibitions laid bare, who are we?
Is the identity we create for ourselves one generated from some deep-seeded “self”, or are we assigning talents that don’t actually fit?
The primary mechanic in this game is one of recalled memories and abilities.
Fulfill your memory trigger, and you’ll come to remember who you actually are, and everything that comes with your identity.
Did you underestimate the full extent of your power?
Of course, there are other worries on the agenda; even though regaining your memory is sure to be crucial.
Among you are a few with undefinable bad intentions; An evil so deep-rooted that it’s apparent from the very beginning whose side you are on.
Not to mention, 12 clouded amnesiacs gathering mysteriously at the same building.
Could that really be a coincidence? Who or what could be pulling the strings?
Welcome to Amnesia Mafia.
Players in this game will begin with a randomly assigned role which includes a “Moniker”.
These names have absolutely no bearing on role information or abilities.
They are assigned as a proxy to be used until you remember your true name.
Here is a very basic example of how the mechanic works.
Moniker: Sheep
Alignment: Town
Win Condition: Generic WinCon
Starting Ability: You have no abilities.
Memory Trigger: Vote for the moderator (This is strictly an example!)
True Name: Dakota Hunter
Recalled Ability: Votes you cast on the moderator count as two votes. (Again...example)
Trigger PM: With a start, you remember you are actually an adorable puppy. Who can cast a spell on the moderator-owner.
Votes you cast on the moderator count as two votes.
THE PLAYER LIST (Names will be bolded as players confirm receipt of PM)
1.) Silent Prophet
2.) Roja
3.) loran16
4.) Tanarin
5.) MandersHex
6.) Iso
7.) PinkFloyd
8.) The_Doctor
9.) kill-joy
10.) Reya Cookiebringer
11.) Dagger
12.) Seppel
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Replacements:
1.) jskura
2.) TFF
3.) Chibi C'thulhu
4.) mystery meat of doom
5.) Wrath_of_Dog
6.) Wolf with a Bass
Rules and other information, including Dead/Alive lists will be in post #2.
Have fun, and enjoy the game!
1.) When you are dead, you may make one "bah" or "go town" post. That is all.
2.) Do not edit or delete your posts. Do not quote any private messages, including Role PMs. Do not threaten to be modkilled. You will be modkilled if you do any of those things.
3.) No crypto-claiming or crypto-text.
4.) Everyone has the power to vote. Vote in bold or your vote does not count.
5.) You do not need to unvote before changing your vote, although it is appreciated.
6.) It takes a majority to lynch, and 50% to end a day with no lynch.
7.) The moderator will not answer game-related questions in the thread. If you have a question, send the moderator a PM.
8.) Have fun.
REGARDING INACTIVITY:
I understand that real life often takes precedence over mafia.
If you are reasonable active, posting at least once every couple days, there should not be any problems.
If other players ask for a prod, or your activity is very poor, I will prod you.
Failure to respond to a prod within 48 hours will result in a replacement, unless a pre-reprieve is asked for.
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Very much alive:
6.) Iso
9.) kill-joy
11.)
DaggerMzztrTetris (r. Dagger)2.) TFF
3.) Chibi C'thulhu
4.) mystery meat of doom
5.) Wrath_of_Dog
6.) Wolf with a Bass
Lost in their own minds:
1.) pinkfloyd - Lynched Day 1.
2.) Seppel - Stabbed Night 1.
3.) Roja - Lynched Day 2.
4.) Dancing Mad (r. Tanarin) - Killed Night 2.
5.) jskura (r. Silent_Prophet) - Lynched Day 3.
6.) Brinatoo (r. MandersHex) - Killed Night 3.
7.) Wheat_Grinder (r. Reya Cookiebringer) - Lynched Day 4.
8.) loran16 - Killed Night 4
---- NO LYNCH : DAY 5 ------
Kill-Free Night 5
9.) The_Doctor - Lynched Day 6
PLEASE DO NOT POST HERE UNTIL DAY 1 BEGINS.
Day 1 begins when all players confirm receipt of PM.
All players have confirmed!
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It wasn't dark in the abandoned theater when the 12 of you showed up, but the sudden deluge of light pouring in from the spotlights above causes nearly all of you to shield your eyes with your hands.
"Uh...welcome everybody!"
A painfully nervous, bespectacled man works his way out onto the main stage.
"My name is Jerry. Er...I'm sure you all have questions. But, uh, I'm not supposed to answer any of them."
An angry rumbling starts from the midst of the group.
"Hey! Wait a second! It's not all that, uh...bad!
Mr. Lym -- uh..I mean, my boss, wants you all to test each other out a bit before you learn why you're here. Or who you guys are!
B-but, you should also know that the doors are locking...right now."
The exterior doors ferociously slam shut at the last syllable.
"And...uh..what was it I was supposed to say here? Oh, right.
And I forgot where I put the keys!"
It is now Day 1. You may begin posting!
DO NOT RANDOM VOTE ME, VOTES FOR ME COUNT DOUBLE.
thus it only takes 4 random votes to get me lynched, and i've seen that happen to me before (I think i've gotten 5 random vote in a mini before).
Anyhow, Random FoS MandersHex
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/vote pinkfloyd
Not worthy of the name.
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In fact... I am wondering if we should even go and RVS here guys. I have a feeling it will get us in trouble here. Maybe a better idea is to claim monikers? I just wanna see if the mod gave us funny ones. Considering they have no bearing on the role and are just placeholders, I see no reason not to.
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Vote: MandersHex
So, you would object to a single vote placed onto you just to confirm it will indeed be a double vote?
That depends. Does your role has anything to do with monikers?
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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So, what's your guys's stories? Where'd you guys hear about mafia?
I'm forgoing the rvs as it seems pointless to me. Lol
Only way to confirm is to lynch me. If you want to lynch me use FOSes until you have a majority.
But then again, why would you want to confirm that drawback in the first place? Curious.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Once upon a time, I stumbled onto a mafia subforum. And as they said, the rest is history.
So, kill-joy. Which name of the above 12 you don't like?
Why not?
It's not like you have an aversion to having that drawback being confirmed, right? Since it is true and all?
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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Ongoing/Completed - 0/41
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NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
That was my original impression. I've since been corrected; they will apparently show up in the vote count. I'd prefer that people proceed with my FOS plan however, until everyone checks in and random votes someone else....i don't trust idiots not to vote before checking my warning in the first place.
And in his first game, he was on a scum team including cpe and LookingforReality. Ouch.
Spin so fast? Tsk Tsk Dagger. UnFOS, FOS Dagger.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Of course. Do note however, that I would still be interested to see at least a single vote on you to confirm the double vote thingy sometimes after to ensure you are not running a gambit.
Ah, fond memories of bygone era.
Why not a vote? Why FOS? Can you not vote?
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
What gambit would that be, pray tell? And what purpose would it serve?
That's for me to know and you to be curious about.
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LORAN'S HAPPY-FUN-TIME FOS COUNT
1. Dagger
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
No idea.
And since it's unlikely to be one, you are not averse to us checking your claim out, of course.
Oh, giddy.
We'll make you an offer you can't refuse.
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NKed/Lynched/Survived - 15/11/15
That's the thing. I currently have no qualms with anyone here. It's a bit too early in the game to know even partially if anyone is scum or not, imo.
And I just feel random voting does little to aid that goal.
I mean, the best anyone really gets is omgus responses which have an equal chance of being tells as just being a knee jerk reaction. Thats the impression I got from watching people play Mafia.
Which is why I am suggesting EVERYONE skips RVS this game. I have a similar vote problem. Granted it is not as bad as yours, but it is similar.
Yes, my trigger does involve monikers. No, I am not gonna say how.
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Wow, that was actually really cruel, are you for real?
Vote Seppel for making me laugh!
LOL
Everyone watch now.
VOTE Dagger.
Yup gonna be real fun.
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loran16 (2) - Seppel, Seppel
PinkFloyd (1) - Reya Cookiebringer
MandersHex (1) - Dagger
Seppel (1) - PinkFloyd
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Either seppel has double vote or loran didn't understand his ability?
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Vote Dagger for Roja.
^ Is obviously not reading the thread.
Anyway, it is appearing as if everyone has some sort of vote handicap. As has been said, this is gonna be fun. I hate to call for an all out mass claim, but we really, REALLY should go and claim any handicaps we do have. As it is, if Loran is town, an incorrect vote is gonna get him lynched most likely.
I can't believe I am saying this...
Who here is up for a moniker/handicap claim?
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Loran: Votes count twice on him
Roja: Nonvoter
Myself: I have a lynch threshold one lower than normal. (Yes new info but it should be out there. I dunno if it will show somehow on the votecount though.)
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Well... you're such a Seppel.
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Moniker doesn't seem to have much to do with anything. I don't think we will gain much from that.
And I don't think handicaps are a good idea either. It's probable that not everyone has one that they can prove, ergo getting us equally nowhere.
I'm all for just not voting for people until we have a little bit more evidence.
On that note, vote kill-joy for, well, killing my joy.
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This has been a public service announcement from Loran16. LEARN FROM IT.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Though you didn't need to claim that.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Well, that proves loran's double vote thing for sure. If he ends up flipping scum obviously that'll be good for us, but if town, I see this going bad very quickly.
Holding it ransom, more like
Give me 10 million cookies by this time tomarrow.
/cookiemonster
I agree. Like I said earlier, it gains us nothing.
You will not obtain my cookies. I will fight you to the death for them. >:(
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You can't beat me!
Yea,h I guess I can see the point on the not claiming the handicap part. Though I think loran's and roja's handicap did need to get out there, especially Loran's. If he didn't say anything we could have accidentally lynched him in RVS very easily. I'm not discounting loran could be scum, but with so little so far, no chances should have been taken.
On the moniker thing. I dunno, I think there may be something to gain on the moniker part.
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If anyone else had done this, it MIGHT garner some suspicions. But, I know you DO happen to get random voted a lot. So meh.
The ability itself...not telling in the least.
That always leads to good times
My husband started playing it first. I told him he was such a nerd for enjoying this. Then...it looked interesting to me, so I gave it a try. Over 20 games later, here I am!
Plus, I've made a LOT of good friends from this site.
*waves to Alpha...who was the first!! :o*
You beat me to this, you bastard.
Aww, no flavor with your vote counts this time? (Granted, last time it was quotes from shows, but still!)
3 people, of 12, have claimed as such. How does that = everyone?
No, we really shouldn't.
No it won't, because we're not going to vote for Loran unless we decide he needs to be lynched.
ONLY USE FoS WHEN REFERRING TO LORAN.
I really don't see a reason to do that.
The smartest things ITT.
FYI: I wouldn't fight this guy for cookies.
Oh, for those that don't know, Loran will not remember that I'm a girl. It's ok. He's explained to me why he doesn't, and I'd rather him not remember, haha.
So don't hound him for forgetting.
Edit: and I really don't think there'll be anything to gain from moniker, either.
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I took this as "It does not show double votes just I get lynched as they were", I sometimes have special moments :-/.
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Why are you not paying attention?
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Then wait why did they say I didn't read the thread, I need sone coffee, In confused.
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When you posted, it was already established that Loran would have 2 votes for every 1. There was also a period where he thought the vote counts would not reflect the extra votes, but they do, as Alpha has already shown us.
So, both of your previous posts have you posting information you were speculating on, but the rest of us knew, because we read the thread.
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Tamarin, why are you so eager to get us to post our monikers?
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Explaining the obvious to captain obvious is not really effective.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
I think it'll be effective in moving past this because, knowing Reya, this isn't quite a tell. Something to note for later, but that's about it.
Why do you think it is not effective?
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Figured it be obvious by now, my trigger involves them. Not gonna say exactly how, but it involves them.
Also, as far as activating triggers, I feel it is two fold. On the one hand, town should want to wake up any abilities ASAP, since as it is we have to assume this is a mountainous situation ATM. Any edge town can get is helpful. Not only that, we have to assume that we lose our starting ability as soon as we recall our real ability. On the bad side though, we could accidentally awaken scum, which would be obviously bad.
@mandershex: Assuming the worse case scenario here on everyone having a handicap. I think we need to play it better safe than sorry in this case.
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God, please stop talking.
So, do you maintain that it was not premature for you to make that statement? Is that what you're telling me?
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Yeah, I just wanted to see what you had to say about it. But being that we don't know if you're scum or not, I don't think it's the best of ideas to intentionally activate anyone's amnesia condition yet. The other thing I'm worried about is, if we do indeed lose our abilities once our memory trigger is activated, how do we know our new ability isn't going to be detrimental to the town? That's why I'm currently against your idea of a moniker claim. Maybe later on if we feel it could net an advantage against the scum, IF you've been cleared by then. Otherwise, I'm not going to advocate blindly activating something that could kill us townies off, whether intentional or accidental.
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/barn
There's plenty of time to play with triggered abilities and figure all of this out later on. I want to hear from everyone before we even consider doing something we might regret.
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player