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Ascended Mage
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 463
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![]() Welcome everyone; this is a primer for the Garga-Geddon deck. Now, many of you may be wondering why such a silly name. If your curiosity got the better out of you, then scroll down until you reach History. In case you kept your curiosity in check, then keep reading. This deck is a combo/control based on Cascade mechanics from Alara block and a card Restore Balance from Timespiral. Combined with Greater Gargadon on suspend, this combo can serve as a very efficient board sweeper and discard. Of course this deck also has other ways of winning, because of it´s unique combo/control approach. So even if your combo get countered, discarded or doesn’t hit as hard as you would like it to, you are still in the game.
Table of Content:
1. History
History:
2. Basic Strategy & Alternative win conditions
Basic Strategy & Alternative win conditions:
3. Card Choices
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4. Decklists
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5. Possible splashes & Different approach towards the deck
5. Possible splashes & Different approach towards the deck:
6. Match-ups
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Last edited by Tom; 08-04-2012 at 11:14 PM. Reason: added prefix |
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Resident Planeswalker
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hampton, VA
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Why do you feel Borderposts are better than Signets? I would think dropping a T2 Signet is better than returning a land T1 for a post. Keeps cards out of your hand for restore balance too.
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Ascended Mage
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VA
Posts: 408
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I like this deck, I think it can become a good contender in the new Modern format.
I think if you are going to include Tezzeret the Seeker in this deck, you can take some stuff from the Tezzerator thread. I would like including 1 Elixer of Immortality with your Tezz, because that turns Tezz's second ability into (-1): gain 5 life I don't play Tezz in my deck, but mine is more of a casual build anyway. Also I am not sold on the Ensnaring Bridge in the mainboard, I feel it is a sideboard at best card. I feel that this deck will mostly win with a 9/7 gargadon, something that does not work well with the bridge. Sure bridge shuts down 12Post, but if it is U12Post, they will counter/return it and if it is G12Post they will destroy it after they resolve some threat. I have never tried Bridge in my deck, so it might be an all-star and I am just not seeing it. I don't play Wheel of Sun and Moon in my SB, an easier to find version that does fills the same role is Relic of Progenitus. I like Damping Matrix, but that is because my friends play too may Qasali Pridemages. As far as splashing colors goes, Nihlith works really well in this deck, but you need to be playing black. Not too difficult given that I play like 12 borderpost (12post, haha) and can just use some Veinfire Borderpost. Cause he is a 4/4 and has fear, this guy lets you win like 8 of 10 times you get him out and set your opponent to 0 lands (no one plays black creatures or cheap artifact creatures) For all the stuff I have said, I don't play "modern". The entire deck is modern legal, but no one else has a modern deck so they are mostly tier-2 Legacy decks I play against. Hope some of this helps out, I will be very interested to see if this performs well in modern competition.
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Ascended Mage
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: santa cruz
Posts: 158
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just to clear a few things up.
Damping Matrix was in the original sideboard *because* it turned off Hex/Depths and is no longer relevant. Boom//Bust was brought in to fight Cranial Extraction and Chalice of the Void if I knew or expected them from an opponent. I wouldn't run the deck without 2 in the board. Dismember and Oblivion Ring have both been in and out of the SB and maindeck. I don't think received any attention in this primer. Court Hussar should be maindecked over Thirst for Knowledge if you expect your meta to be *very* aggro heavy where the ability to create some board presence (even if it just chump blocks) matters Tezzeret the Seeker, in my opinion, costs way too much mana for this deck. I've been trying to figure out a way to support either Elspeth Knight Errant or Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas instead of the always not as good as you want him to be Ajani Vengeant. Another note – I've been doing some testing against 12post and have found Blood Moon to *kind of suck*. If I can't get balance online immediately after the Moon, they find a way to ramp to 6 and win even under a Moon. With that said, Blood Moon can completely lock many decks (Zoo and Reveilark) from playing threats completely. |
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Ascended Mage
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 459
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I would like to note a few other sideboard cards.
Culling Scales - This card was brought to my attention on modo. I allows us to slow the game down some as long as we keep it in our grasp in the first place. After time we can just sac it to itself. It is a stall tactic that may work well against decks like jund junk and bant. Keep in my that these decks are already favored matches though. Kitchen finks - allows you to gain life which can be a key with all the burn spells zoo and mono red have. It also gives you a blocker to stall the games and can act as fodder for gargadon Leyline of sanctity - Stops removal cards such as thoughtseize and inquisition it also stops pesky burn spells that red is packing a ton of. Against red it's almost a must and you have many dead cards in your main deck against them. Paladin en-vec - Pro red and black helps against zoos red creatures plus they have to use a path to get ride of him. Jund has no real answer only try and out race you and drop a goyf he stalls the game long enough for you to ruin thier chances by setting up your balance. A note on the on the match up vs. 12 post blood moon is not dead just not as strong as in many other matches it does stop them from going off on three or four. After a balance an ajani v is dominate. being able to tap down the color source that they may draw is crucial. If this happens ajani will end up with time to get his final ability off. I am personally on the edge about the best replacement for Jace I understand that there is nothing that can be close. While I agree that five mana is harder to hit than four it's not unquestionable. I am currently considering elspeth tirel as my alternate win condition. My main reasons are that for one she can produce blockers and keep herself alive not only that but she can gain you life that will be needed in the late game. If the game continues she will eventually balance the field in your favor once again. Last edited by LVkiller; 11-30-2011 at 12:02 AM. |
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Ascended Mage
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: santa cruz
Posts: 158
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How do you reliably get WW on turn three? |
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Ascended Mage
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 459
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I did have to tweak the original mana base I was also unhappy with how often I had to mulligan with the original version that was used last time it was in extended. I have adjusted by removing all the Misty rainforest and adding arid mesas instead Adding a terramorphic expanse was also a help due to you having to have a basic on turn one. It is still in the works but the deck is running quite smooth at the moment. On another plus side you get white out of the majority of your boarderpost which is also a help to the double white. Adding a plains to the deck is another thing that in testing I have found I want to do. I am not searching for my one of forest and this may be changed to the plains in the end to help my curve and keep my land count down.
Porter as you know this decks mana base is ruff. But I am finding this base to work well at the moment. Last edited by LVkiller; 08-25-2011 at 01:52 AM. |
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Experienced Mage
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: United Kingdom/At Sea
Posts: 135
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Yeah it's a pretty awesome deck!
I think I want to work Lost Auramancers in with Gotta pitch my hand some how at instant speed....(One with Nothing Anyone?) |
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Experienced Mage
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bay Area, California
Posts: 136
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<----- Patrick Spam - Kors Last edited by Korsakovia; 08-27-2011 at 01:14 PM. |
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Archmage Overlord
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what do you guys think of adding beast within to the deck as an answer to problem permanents?
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