yes, you should make this deck totally like all of the other ninjustu decks (sarcasm)
i really like phantom warrior in ninjutsu decks, he can win all by himself.
Kind of random, and a million others liek it have been done, but i want to make a decent ninja deck, so here is a draft for people to critique.
I love a good Ninja deck! I had a great one when Mirrodin was in! It was a G/B/U ninja deck deck with all types of equipment!
I understand why you have white in it. It's no a bad idea, you have 10 first turn droppers, great! but even though you have that many, not all the time will they come out in your first hand. But still, we need practice with the deck.
Shuriken is the best equipment card for a ninja! Meloku's dont have a chance against this card! jeje!
I have to make that deck even better! it was just a draft.
Stewie's list is pretty good, though it seems just a little ninja-heavy, even for a ninja deck. Skullsnatcher probably isn't worth it, since there are better ways of killing graveyards. Your ninja base should probably look something like: 4 Deep Hours, 3/4 Cutthroat, 2/3 Okina-gang, 2 Ink-Eyes/Higure. Since you're in these colours already, Dimir Infiltrator is too good to pass up, since it can also grab a Jitte, Last Gasp, or Mana Leak/Remand, all of which you should probably be playing. Shurizen isn't bad, but your ninjas really want to attacking, not throwing equipment around. Some things to try, if you don't mind playing the U/B version.
Jeje! thanks Xujhan, you are write about too many ninjas. I wanna use the base that I had when I used a ninja deck during mirriodin was standard. It had green in it, so obviously it Birds of Paradise in it. It had trolls has well, we can replace them with Iwamori or Grave shell scarab, for more kill options.
And how we have pain lands and shock lands now, lands or color screw wont be a problem now like it was back then.
What are god equipments that we have now in standard for this deck???
also Dimir Infiltrator is neat for ninja, since he is unblockable and comes on line one turn earlier than phantom warrior. plus after you bounce him, he can transmute into Last Gasp or some other removal.
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I'm a tad hesitant about having the confidants in a deck with a couple 5cc cards, but i think it'll be fine. Yeah, it's kind of totally different from the original, but i think it looks a lot smoother and stronger now.
I'm a tad hesitant about having the confidants in a deck with a couple 5cc cards, but i think it'll be fine. Yeah, it's kind of totally different from the original, but i think it looks a lot smoother and stronger now.
This looks like it WRECKS control decks, but it could be iffy against some aggro decks.
HEH, i just realized the guy in your avatar is not in fact, a walking house.
In any case, yeah, plenty of discard and all my creatures are bouncing all over the place, making them hard to remove. The descendant looks good against aggro, as do the fetters, and the mistblade shinobi can slow them down, but i don't like running jitte against a deck with 4 burning-tree shaman.
I find that the blue and black Magemarks work well with Ninjas. At least, they do in pauper Magic. Whether or not you'd want to include them is up to you. Infiltrator's Magemark on a Ninja of the Deep Hours draws a card each turn nearly uncontested, and Necromancer's Magemark returns enchanted Ninjas to hand should anything come in their way... and allow you to Ninjutsu them back in again.
I find that 3 each works well for getting them to work in multiples. I wouldn't know what to remove from the deck to put them in, so I guess that can be filed under "interesting observation" and otherwise ignored for now, unless you want to give 'em a shot.
Sounds interesting, as you say, but i can only see some good things in the blue one for added ninja effects, but i don't like getting two-for-one'd, especially when i might be ninjutsuing magemarked creatures back, losing the mark.
BweeBwee: I like your last list the best, but here are 2 points:
1. Mana Leak would definitely be better than Remand here, have you playtested yet?
2. I'm worried about your mana base, it seems like your blue sources are too few. I would to with +1 island, -1 plains until the new U/W duals come out.
Ok, whatever, I'm not really set on remand anyways, mana leak can go in its place if thats what people think. Let's analyze the deck for mana base:
4 Ravenous rats
4 shrieking grotesque
4 ninja of the deep hours
3 Mistblade shinobi
4 Dark confidant
4 Descendant of kiyomaro
3 Okiba-gang shinobi
4 faith's fetters
4 mortify
4 mana leak
Counting bleed and ninjutsu costs rather than mana costs,
Black symbols: 19
Blue symbols: 11
White symbols: 20
So around the same amount of black and white sources, and more than half as many blue sources than black and white, so out of 22 mana sources, i should have maybe around:
8 black sources
8 white sources
6 blue sources
4 watery grave
4 godless shrine
are givens, and count as 8 black sources, 4 white sources and 4 blue sources collectively, but for being only 8 lands, It comes out to around 4 black sources, 2 black and 2 blue sources.
4 suntail hawk
4 lantern kami
4 ninja of the deep hours
4 mistblade shinobi
4 higure, the still wind
3 throat slitter
4 okiba-gang shinobi
4 faith's fetters
4 watery grave
4 godless shrine
7 plains
7 island
5 swamp
Kind of random, and a million others liek it have been done, but i want to make a decent ninja deck, so here is a draft for people to critique.
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U should better take out the white part of the deck and add ink-eyes, hyppie and dimir cutpurse instead
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With all the the ninjutsu going on, you're bound to gain a lot of life.
i really like phantom warrior in ninjutsu decks, he can win all by himself.
I love a good Ninja deck! I had a great one when Mirrodin was in! It was a G/B/U ninja deck deck with all types of equipment!
I understand why you have white in it. It's no a bad idea, you have 10 first turn droppers, great! but even though you have that many, not all the time will they come out in your first hand. But still, we need practice with the deck.
I'd take out a Higure, the still wind and a okiba-gang shinobi, for the reason being is that Higure, the still wind is a legend and that okiba-gang shinobi is too expensive, and add 2 more Ornithopters to the deck. Now we have 12 drops, even better:D
I like the idea of the Faith's Fetters in the deck...
Mortifiy as well...
But we need some equipment and some more discard effects in the deck...
Here check out my deck that I come up with:
4 Ornithopters
4 Will o' Wisp
17 Ninjas:
4 Deep hours
3 Higure
2 Ink Eyes
3 Cutthoart
2 okiba-gang shinobi
3 the that removes cards from the graveyard
3 Shruiken (AWSOME!!!)
3 Jitte
6 discard cards
23 lands:
4 Underground River
4 Shock land blue/black
9 Swamps
6 Island
Shuriken is the best equipment card for a ninja! Meloku's dont have a chance against this card! jeje!
I have to make that deck even better! it was just a draft.
Help is welcomed anytime!!
Like I said, a bit off from your colours, but thought I throw my design at ya.;)
Sorry, I forgot that there were equipments that dealt damage on their turn, can't remember which ones. If anyone else can please mention.
I play entire T2 stuff:symr: , oh Werd,
And how we have pain lands and shock lands now, lands or color screw wont be a problem now like it was back then.
What are god equipments that we have now in standard for this deck???
also Dimir Infiltrator is neat for ninja, since he is unblockable and comes on line one turn earlier than phantom warrior. plus after you bounce him, he can transmute into Last Gasp or some other removal.
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4 shrieking grotesque
4 ninja of the deep hours
3 Mistblade shinobi
4 Dark confidant
4 Descendant of kiyomaro
3 Okiba-gang shinobi
4 mortify
4 remand
4 watery grave
4 godless shrine
6 plains
6 swamp
2 island
I'm a tad hesitant about having the confidants in a deck with a couple 5cc cards, but i think it'll be fine. Yeah, it's kind of totally different from the original, but i think it looks a lot smoother and stronger now.
This looks like it WRECKS control decks, but it could be iffy against some aggro decks.
I suggest Jitte in the board or maindeck.
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In any case, yeah, plenty of discard and all my creatures are bouncing all over the place, making them hard to remove. The descendant looks good against aggro, as do the fetters, and the mistblade shinobi can slow them down, but i don't like running jitte against a deck with 4 burning-tree shaman.
I find that 3 each works well for getting them to work in multiples. I wouldn't know what to remove from the deck to put them in, so I guess that can be filed under "interesting observation" and otherwise ignored for now, unless you want to give 'em a shot.
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1. Mana Leak would definitely be better than Remand here, have you playtested yet?
2. I'm worried about your mana base, it seems like your blue sources are too few. I would to with +1 island, -1 plains until the new U/W duals come out.
4 Ravenous rats
4 shrieking grotesque
4 ninja of the deep hours
3 Mistblade shinobi
4 Dark confidant
4 Descendant of kiyomaro
3 Okiba-gang shinobi
4 faith's fetters
4 mortify
4 mana leak
Counting bleed and ninjutsu costs rather than mana costs,
Black symbols: 19
Blue symbols: 11
White symbols: 20
So around the same amount of black and white sources, and more than half as many blue sources than black and white, so out of 22 mana sources, i should have maybe around:
8 black sources
8 white sources
6 blue sources
4 watery grave
4 godless shrine
are givens, and count as 8 black sources, 4 white sources and 4 blue sources collectively, but for being only 8 lands, It comes out to around 4 black sources, 2 black and 2 blue sources.
leaving:
4 black sources
6 white sources
4 blue sources
so:
4 swamp
6 plains
4 island
Making the entire deck:
4 shrieking grotesque
4 ninja of the deep hours
3 Mistblade shinobi
4 Dark confidant
4 Descendant of kiyomaro
3 Okiba-gang shinobi
4 mortify
4 mana leak
4 watery grave
4 godless shrine
4 swamp
6 plains
4 island
Sound good, or should i throw in painlands as well?