MTG Salvation

So new Threads = New Ideas and for the first time ever we to have Mono Red Vampires.

So The idea for this deck is very similar to the idea of RDW's is that you use cheap efficient creatures for pressure, and you burn then out with burn spells. The twist is our cheap little creatures, can grow the more damage they do.

The deck will have a heavy proliferate theme to it as you want to pump the counters up on the creatures.

So here is the deck



I would love to get the Dismembers to the mainboard but the Proliferate theme of this deck means a lot and Incinerate can go to my opponents face.

Please feel free to critique all you want, and offer suggestions

Harvest Pyre might be a better choice instead of Devil's Play since it can work like an instant Grim Lavamancer.
Edit: Never mind. Just noticed that it only can be used against other creatures.

Quote from Mister Met

Harvest Pyre might be a better choice instead of Devil's Play since it can work like an instant Grim Lavamancer.

Because the deck has koth I can ramp into the the devil's play pretty quickly and harvest Pyre only kills a creature, you cannot dome opponents in the face with it

So testing with this version of Mono Red Vamps, the deck plays out very much how RDW's plays

I have won multiple games just with having Stromkirk turn 1, Shrine of burning rage turn 2, and volt charge turn 3, koth turn 4.

The deck is fun, still need to figure out how we get by the whole timely reinforcement thing but hey for what its worth the deck is pretty effective.

Why no falkenrath marauders? Sick with proliferate. Evasion and haste can help close a game.

Quote from akratch

Why no falkenrath marauders? Sick with proliferate. Evasion and haste can help close a game.

too high of mana cost for this style of deck.

Yeah marauders are too high on the curve to be beneficial. They are a good creature but this deck rarely wants to tap down 5 mana.

And my intent was to make a vampire deck in colors never used for them before my intent was not to make a deck that functioned like rdw. It just happened to turn out that way

I'm liking the idea of mono-red vamps...here's my idea for a mono-red vampire deck:


Any suggestions?

Quote from Risen Demon

I'm liking the idea of mono-red vamps...here's my idea for a mono-red vampire deck:

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4 Stromkirk Noble 4 Grim Lavamancer 4 Bloodcrazed Neonate 4 Rakish Heir 4 Crossway Vampire 2 Adaptive Automaton	4 Shock 3 Incinerate 3 Volt Charge 4 Curse of Stalked Prey 2 Shrine of Burning Rage 22 Mountain

Any suggestions?

Up the Shrine count. It is a very good card to have early game and you want to make sure you have it. Drop the Curse count. You do not need 4 of Crossway Vampires because they are highly costed and give nothing to your other vampires after the turn they come onto the field.

Quote from Xover

Up the Shrine count. It is a very good card to have early game and you want to make sure you have it. Drop the Curse count. You do not need 4 of Crossway Vampires because they are highly costed and give nothing to your other vampires after the turn they come onto the field.

Thats true...I'm kinda liking the 4 curses though.
Maybe -1 Crossway Vampire
+1 Shrine of Burning Rage

Devil's Play < Red Sun's Zenith

Quote from LimDuhl

Devil's Play < Red Sun's Zenith

Not if it gets countered. Counter a devils play you will get a shot to use it again. Counter a rsz and well your sol. Add into account you are not always going to draw the red sun's zenith again, so the likelyhood of you using two in one match goes down exponentially.

A 3/2 for R seems good.

What about this build?

Waif is good but I am trying to keep this all vampire in terms of creatures. Waif so far is not a vampire

Quote from sKink

Why make a worse RDW deck just for the tribal theme? Only cards that benefits going vamps is Rakish Heir, which tbh is not a very good card.

Rakish hier is actually pretty nuts with a stromkirk already on the field. It goes big pretty quick.

If I were to do a more traditional rdw I wold do waif, noble, scamp and beseker but this is more to develop this archetype with vamps

What about Vampiric Fury? Seems like this would work well.

Quote from Bataar

What about Vampiric Fury? Seems like this would work well.

It could be good but in all honesty I am only running 16 vamps and the spot that vampiric fury would take up, is something that is far more useful in more than one type of use which vampiric fury is only good in one type of application

I built this before finding this thread. Is there any hope for this build?



I'm also missing Tezzeret's Gambit.

I have no sideboard currently, but I'm considering Manic Vandal and Brimstone Volley. I'd play Brimstone Volley against control, to dome them for 5 after the eventual board wipe.

Other sideboard cards would take the deck into black control with removal or discard.

I liked poking my own Stormblood Berserker with Olivia Voldaren so she would get a counter, and Stormblood Berserker would get counters from Rakish Heir. I haven't tried poking a Koth'd Mountain yet.

I've tried running both mono-red vampires and B/R vampires and they just don't seem to work in this metagame. Maybe after Dark Accension's release we'll see a change, but until then I don't think its a viable competitive standard deck.

No maruaders? Put in infernal plunges, sack vamps to go into them turn 3. By Big Red does turn 2 titan or wurmcoil. Turn 1, 1 drop. Turn 2, Land, infernal plunge, geospurge, gg.

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No maruaders? Put in infernal plunges, sack vamps to go into them turn 3. By Big Red does turn 2 titan or wurmcoil. Turn 1, 1 drop. Turn 2, Land, infernal plunge, geospurge, gg.

then I respond with doomblade, I try to not to laugh at this amazing 4 for 1