I love token decks. Specifically their ability to completely flood the field to the point my opponents can't do anything. I've wanted to make a token deck for the longest time, but I don't really enjoy the deckbuilding process for mono-colored generals. So, to me, Ghave looks like the prime specimen for a token EDH deck. So here's my attempt:
Kor Haven
Shizo, Death's Storehouse
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Yavimaya Hollow
Maze of Ith
Garruk Relentless
Sterling Grove
Privileged Position
Doubling Season
Mana Reflection
Chord of Calling
Worldly Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Damnation
Mirari's Wake
Elesh Norn
Creakwood Liege
Beastmaster Ascension
Start Up: Start with Ghave, the Ranger, and 2 other creatures on the field. 2 +1/+1 counters on any creature(s) (The Ranger is fine, he'll get them back, and not Ghave's last 2).
Step 1: Sacrifice one of the 2 creatures to the altar, netting you 2.
Step 2: Use both mana to remove 2 +1/+1 counters off of your creatures. You get 2 Saprolings with a +1/+1 counter and 2 +1/+1 counters on the ranger.
Step 3: Sacrifice the other random creature to get 2 mana.
Step 4: Remove the +1/+1 counters from the Saprolings and make 2 more. Repeat at step 1 using Saprolings. Congratulations, you have an Arbitrarily large number of saprolings. (Massively huge Juniper Order Ranger as a bonus). Assuming you did this at the end step of your opponent, you have just won barring shenanigans.
There's another way to do it with 1 random creature for the startup cost (and 0, I mean it is Ghave we're talking about, but you can't do it this way while being tapped out, the aove you can.), but I'm tired of thinking about this and will save it for another day.
Arbitrarily Large Ghave:
Start Up: Above Combo
Step 1: Sac a Saproling to Ashnod's Altar to make 2
Step 2: Use both mana to sac two saprolings to Ghave.
Since Ghave has a built in sac outlet, you would probably benefit from running Grave Pact and Butcher of Malakir. A couple of additional sac outlets that are awesome with Saps are Utopia Mycon (turn those saps into mana and trigger Pact), and Deathspore Thallid (turn those saps into removal and trigger Pact). Their spore abilities are too slow, but they are great sac outlets in a sap deck.
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"I will flay the skin from your flesh and the flesh from your bones and scrape your bones dry. And still you will not have suffered enough." -Greven il-Vec, to Gerrard
I may try and find some room for a few Innistrad cards as well:
Mentor of the Meek - Lets me draw cards when I make saprolings for 1 (Let's me sac a Saproling to Ashnod's Altar to remove a counter from something to make a saproling and draw a card)
Parallel Lives - Might as well be a second Doubling Season in here
Gavony Township - Gives fuel to Ghave to make Saprolings. Also makes creatures big.
Edit: What about the other Hondens (Cleansing Fire and Night's Reach) for synergy with the green Honden and my deck?
Side note, I've realised a lot of the cards that are in my decks that I could need at any given time cost 5 mana, which is the exact cost needed to trasmute a Brainspoil. I may just find a spot for that in here too.
I've been playing only this deck lately, and I've noticed that Necrogenesis and Glare of Subdual have been my all-stars. There's nothing like Board advantage and graveyard hate all bundled in the same package. And in my opinion, the first activation is a 2-for-1, after that, it turns into a 2-for-0.
The last game I play with this, though, turned into a 2v1 against Grimgrin and Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. The only thing that killed me was a misplay where I should've casted exsanguinate to keep my alive after a SoWaP hit on a 12/12 flying Ulamog with an 11 card hand >.<.
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I've made a few edits that need to be reflected on here, so I'll update tonight when I get to my decks.
I can't believe I forgot about this, but Pattern of Rebirth really needs to be in here, mainly cause my general is a sac engine himself. I would also love to be able to put the new Garruk in here. It would be nice to be able to sacrifice one of my Saprolings to him while enchanted with Pattern, get a new creature to the field and to my hand. Can't get much better than that. He also makes me tokens ^^.
I also really need to find room in here for Genesis.
1 Ghave, Guru of Spores
Token Makers:
1 White Sun's Zenith
1 Awakening Zone
1 Necrogenesis
1 Promise of Bunrei
1 Seed the Land
1 Snake Pit
1 Words of Wilding
1 Pentavus
1 Triskelavus
1 Mycoloth
Token Boosters:
1 Beastmaster Ascension
1 Creakwood Liege
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Leyline of the Meek
1 Gaea's Anthem
1 Intangible Virtue
1 Leyline of Vitality
1 Mirari's Wake
1 Primal Rage
1 Eldrazi Monument
Removal:
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to Exile
1 Ashes to Ashes
1 Hour of Reckoning
1 Wrath of God
1 Damnation
1 Squall Line
1 Crypt Rats
Ramp:
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Skyshroud Claim
1 Nature's Lore
1 Explosive Vegetation
1 Safewright Quest
1 Journey of Discovery
Utility:
1 Mentor of the Meek
1 Lumberknot
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Howling Mine
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Quicksilver Amulet
1 Terastodon
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Chord of Calling
1 Aura Shards
1 Glare of Subdual
1 Juniper Order Ranger
1 Mana Reflection
1 Doubling Season
1 Parallel Lives
1 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Privileged Position
1 Sterling Grove
1 Exsanguinate
1 Protean Hydra
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Praetor's Counsel
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Bayou
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Savannah
1 Temple Garden
1 Godless Shrine
1 Scrubland
1 Maze of Ith
1 Yavimaya Hollow
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
9 Plains
9 Forest
8 Swamp
1 Kor Haven
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-1 Night Soil +1 Parallel Lives
-1 Overrun +1 Mentor of the meek
-1 Honden of Life's Web +1 Lumberknot
-1 Tetravus +1 Triskelavus (Wrong T-avus >.<)
Kor Haven
Shizo, Death's Storehouse
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Yavimaya Hollow
Maze of Ith
Garruk Relentless
Sterling Grove
Privileged Position
Doubling Season
Mana Reflection
Chord of Calling
Worldly Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Damnation
Mirari's Wake
Elesh Norn
Creakwood Liege
Beastmaster Ascension
Trades
Thanks to Xenoninja for the Avatar & Sig, from Heroes of the Plane Studios
Legacy:
XUArtifact UX
BGWMycoloth/Saproling Beatdown WGB
RRSuicide RedRR
EDH:
GOmnath, Locus of ManaG
BAnowon, the Vampire TribalB
UGMomir Vig, Simic VisionaryGU
WRJor Kadeen, VoltronRW
BRGKresh the BloodbraidedGRB
BGWDoran, the Siege TowerWGB
BGWGhave, Guru of tokensWGB
WUBRGScion of the Ur-DragonGRBUW
WUBRGKarona, False GodGRBUW
Added in Tetravus and Ashnod's Altar.
Found a couple infinite loops:
With Ghave, Guru of Spores, Juniper Order Ranger, and Ashnod's Altar. I can make infinite tokens to boost Ghave to infinite proportions.
How they work:
Arbitrary Number of Tokens:
Start Up: Start with Ghave, the Ranger, and 2 other creatures on the field. 2 +1/+1 counters on any creature(s) (The Ranger is fine, he'll get them back, and not Ghave's last 2).
Step 1: Sacrifice one of the 2 creatures to the altar, netting you 2.
Step 2: Use both mana to remove 2 +1/+1 counters off of your creatures. You get 2 Saprolings with a +1/+1 counter and 2 +1/+1 counters on the ranger.
Step 3: Sacrifice the other random creature to get 2 mana.
Step 4: Remove the +1/+1 counters from the Saprolings and make 2 more. Repeat at step 1 using Saprolings. Congratulations, you have an Arbitrarily large number of saprolings. (Massively huge Juniper Order Ranger as a bonus). Assuming you did this at the end step of your opponent, you have just won barring shenanigans.
There's another way to do it with 1 random creature for the startup cost (and 0, I mean it is Ghave we're talking about, but you can't do it this way while being tapped out, the aove you can.), but I'm tired of thinking about this and will save it for another day.
Arbitrarily Large Ghave:
Start Up: Above Combo
Step 1: Sac a Saproling to Ashnod's Altar to make 2
Step 2: Use both mana to sac two saprolings to Ghave.
Step 3: Rinse and Repeat.
Do note:
Above combos work better with Doubling Season Out.
Trades
Thanks to Xenoninja for the Avatar & Sig, from Heroes of the Plane Studios
Legacy:
XUArtifact UX
BGWMycoloth/Saproling Beatdown WGB
RRSuicide RedRR
EDH:
GOmnath, Locus of ManaG
BAnowon, the Vampire TribalB
UGMomir Vig, Simic VisionaryGU
WRJor Kadeen, VoltronRW
BRGKresh the BloodbraidedGRB
BGWDoran, the Siege TowerWGB
BGWGhave, Guru of tokensWGB
WUBRGScion of the Ur-DragonGRBUW
WUBRGKarona, False GodGRBUW
EDH
GUBVorosh, the HunterGUB
BRGKarrthus, Tyrant of JundBRG
GMolimo, Maro-SorcererG
UThada Adel, AcquisitorU list soon
BEndrek Sahr, Master BreederB
I may try and find some room for a few Innistrad cards as well:
Mentor of the Meek - Lets me draw cards when I make saprolings for 1 (Let's me sac a Saproling to Ashnod's Altar to remove a counter from something to make a saproling and draw a card)
Essence of the Wild - Turns all my lowly 1/1 Saprolings into 6/6 beasts
Parallel Lives - Might as well be a second Doubling Season in here
Gavony Township - Gives fuel to Ghave to make Saprolings. Also makes creatures big.
Edit: What about the other Hondens (Cleansing Fire and Night's Reach) for synergy with the green Honden and my deck?
Side note, I've realised a lot of the cards that are in my decks that I could need at any given time cost 5 mana, which is the exact cost needed to trasmute a Brainspoil. I may just find a spot for that in here too.
Trades
Thanks to Xenoninja for the Avatar & Sig, from Heroes of the Plane Studios
Legacy:
XUArtifact UX
BGWMycoloth/Saproling Beatdown WGB
RRSuicide RedRR
EDH:
GOmnath, Locus of ManaG
BAnowon, the Vampire TribalB
UGMomir Vig, Simic VisionaryGU
WRJor Kadeen, VoltronRW
BRGKresh the BloodbraidedGRB
BGWDoran, the Siege TowerWGB
BGWGhave, Guru of tokensWGB
WUBRGScion of the Ur-DragonGRBUW
WUBRGKarona, False GodGRBUW
The last game I play with this, though, turned into a 2v1 against Grimgrin and Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. The only thing that killed me was a misplay where I should've casted exsanguinate to keep my alive after a SoWaP hit on a 12/12 flying Ulamog with an 11 card hand >.<.
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I've made a few edits that need to be reflected on here, so I'll update tonight when I get to my decks.
I can't believe I forgot about this, but Pattern of Rebirth really needs to be in here, mainly cause my general is a sac engine himself. I would also love to be able to put the new Garruk in here. It would be nice to be able to sacrifice one of my Saprolings to him while enchanted with Pattern, get a new creature to the field and to my hand. Can't get much better than that. He also makes me tokens ^^.
I also really need to find room in here for Genesis.
And I really like Lumberknot, it's like a backwards Juniper Order Ranger ^^
Trades
Thanks to Xenoninja for the Avatar & Sig, from Heroes of the Plane Studios
Legacy:
XUArtifact UX
BGWMycoloth/Saproling Beatdown WGB
RRSuicide RedRR
EDH:
GOmnath, Locus of ManaG
BAnowon, the Vampire TribalB
UGMomir Vig, Simic VisionaryGU
WRJor Kadeen, VoltronRW
BRGKresh the BloodbraidedGRB
BGWDoran, the Siege TowerWGB
BGWGhave, Guru of tokensWGB
WUBRGScion of the Ur-DragonGRBUW
WUBRGKarona, False GodGRBUW