So normally I play EDH with my Mimeoplasm deck, but lately all my playgroups just gun for me and complain that Mimeo is obnoxious. It's true, BGU gives you pretty much everything, and Mimeo himself just capitalizes off of every good card. So I decided to build mono green because it has less ways of dealing with things, and as a result is much more fun to play and even more rewarding to win with. I chose kamahl because he himself is a win con with enough mana, and he does a good job of preventing board wipes, something Green has a hard time dealing with.
The strategies of the deck are really straight forward:
Make alot of mana, kill them with Gelatinous Genesis, Genesis Wave, Kamahl, Wolfbriar, etc. the hard part is dealing with everyone else trying to kill you, when your only instant speed responses are Krosan Grip, Beast within, and Chord of calling vs their counter spells, tons of removal, and infi combos. anyway, thoughts?
Solemn Simulacrum - I love sad robot as much as the next guy but I feel he doesn't make as much sense in mono green.. He is great in non rampy colors, and awesome with repeated recursion, but in Kamahl I think he doesn't fit as well. If you are needed draw Regal Force is far better and if you need ramp your in green. way more options.
Lurking Predators - I like this car a lot when you have like 50 creatures, How does it work for you with fewer? I guess ramp allows you to thin the deck which may help a bit.
Solemn Simulacrum - I love sad robot as much as the next guy but I feel he doesn't make as much sense in mono green.. He is great in non rampy colors, and awesome with repeated recursion, but in Kamahl I think he doesn't fit as well. If you are needed draw Regal Force is far better and if you need ramp your in green. way more options.
Lurking Predators - I like this car a lot when you have like 50 creatures, How does it work for you with fewer? I guess ramp allows you to thin the deck which may help a bit.
Now that you mention it, Sad Robot is less stellar that Wood elves and the like, any suggestions on what to replace him with?
Lurking Predators I just put in, but in theory it will trigger 3 times a rotation in a full game. Even with 28 creatures, I'm bound to hit something with 3 activations + I have Top and Library.
Are you wanting the ramp or the draw from Sad Robot?
For draw i love Regal Force in my deck...
For ramp (not that I think you need it lol) maybe Hunting Wilds?
You could also go with standard mana dorks or artifacts... Sol ring, Darksteel Ingot, etc..
Are you wanting the ramp or the draw from Sad Robot?
For draw i love Regal Force in my deck...
For ramp (not that I think you need it lol) maybe Hunting Wilds?
You could also go with standard mana dorks or artifacts... Sol ring, Darksteel Ingot, etc..
It was the combination of the two at low CC. Regal seems good off of a Tooth and Nail with avenger, but by himself he doesn't seem so great. Maybe I'll just test him out and see.
Also, Not a fan of mana rocks in mono green, as Lands do more for me.
Might cut Primordial Hydra too, though to be fair I haven't really played him alot.
Harmonize - 3 cards for 4 mana, better card draw than a lot of blue options... This is a good card
Regal Force - usually draws far more... includes a 5/5 body for Kamahl to pump all for the bargain price of 7 mana... Tooth and nail makes it great sure but it's no slouch by itself and I regularly have more than enough mana to cast it and have some left over.
Harmonize - 3 cards for 4 mana, better card draw than a lot of blue options... This is a good card
Regal Force - usually draws far more... includes a 5/5 body for Kamahl to pump all for the bargain price of 7 mana... Tooth and nail makes it great sure but it's no slouch by itself and I regularly have more than enough mana to cast it and have some left over.
Already playing Harmonize. I guess I'll try out Regal.
I know, my point was comparing them... I actually think Regal is better in my Kamahl deck.
Alright. In that case I'm going to put a proxy of Regal in now and during the week I'll play some games with him and see if he works, in which case I'll buy one. Thanks for the advice. Any other suggestions?
Because for 1G you can destroy any land in play. It's a nice interaction but then you sit there looking at Masticore going "God this is awful." I'd rather have Acorn Catapult to ping the lands since it can be a pseudo Bitterblossom in the deck too, but in my experience you just let other people play Wraths and Volcanic Fallouts and take advantage of those.
Because for 1G you can destroy any land in play. It's a nice interaction but then you sit there looking at Masticore going "God this is awful." I'd rather have Acorn Catapult to ping the lands since it can be a pseudo Bitterblossom in the deck too, but in my experience you just let other people play Wraths and Volcanic Fallouts and take advantage of those.
It would be 2G, and in that case Thornbite staff would honestly just be better, because I wouldn't have to discard cards to keep it alive.
And yeah, I usually just drop a Kicked Wolf Briar or an Avenger and force a wrath, to which I usually kill 3-5 lands.
Exactly. And 2G is way way worse than 1G... I have put masticore out of my mind for so long since it's one of the worst cards ever made (not going to argue that though). Thornbite was in my earlier build of Kamahl and worked really well. I just went a different direction.
Exactly. And 2G is way way worse than 1G... I have put masticore out of my mind for so long since it's one of the worst cards ever made (not going to argue that though). Thornbite was in my earlier build of Kamahl and worked really well. I just went a different direction.
Yeah, I'm not looking to actively LD either. I just want to drop dudes and kill people.
EDIT: So I feel like Craterhoof Behemoth might have a home here, especially since I can animate my lands with Kamahl to increase the value of X. Also, Tooth and Nail for Craterhoof and Avenger seems really good.
Stupid question, but what's a craterhoof? I can't find that on gatherer or info sites.
New card spoiled last night. 5GGG for a 5/5 with haste who gives all creatures +X/+X and trample the turn he comes into play, including himself (X= the number of creatures you have). at very worst, hes a 6/6 haste trample on the turn he comes on, but at best (with kamahl animating lands, or Avenger, or Post rude awakeneing) hes pretty much guarentees a kill.
If you do want to go Kamahl LD, your best options are Nevinyrral's Disk, Powder Keg, and Time Bomb, all of which can be used to destroy multiple lands for a 1 or 0 mana activation. Powder Keg is probably the strongest, as it's X2 (Spend only green mana on X, you may pay the 2 in a turn before you break this): Destroy X lands, and any tokens, and maybe a few Mana Crypt/Tormod's Crypt/whatever else in the process.
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If you do want to go Kamahl LD, your best options are Nevinyrral's Disk, Powder Keg, and Time Bomb, all of which can be used to destroy multiple lands for a 1 or 0 mana activation. Powder Keg is probably the strongest, as it's X2 (Spend only green mana on X, you may pay the 2 in a turn before you break this): Destroy X lands, and any tokens, and maybe a few Mana Crypt/Tormod's Crypt/whatever else in the process.
Like I said before, not really a big fan of the LD route. I just want to focus on generating a ton of mana, and dropping threats everyturn until I kill everyone.
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Played my newly made Kamahl Deck last night.
Mimic Vat was huge, had Primeval Titan under it for ramp, it was sent to the grave yard and brought back to be paired with Avenger of Zendikar. It was a definite game changer for as long as I could keep it.
Momentous fall was great as well with the green fatties all over the place for card draw. I had a ton of fun with it and only LD'd during a wipe. Warned everyone before we began that is what would happen as to not draw any extra whining.
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:symg::symg:Kamahl, Fist of Krosa:symg::symg:
:symw::symw:Konda, Lord of Eiganjo:symw::symw:
:symr::symr:Urabrask, The Hidden:symr::symr:
:symw::symu::symg:Jenara, Asura of War:symw::symu::symg:
:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg:Scion of the Ur Dragon:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg:
Retired:
:symb::symb:Ob Nixillus, the Fallen:symb::symb:
:symu::symu:Memnarch:symu::symu:
:symw::symb::symg:Doran, The Siege Tower:symw::symb::symg:
Just played at a table with 6 people and had one of the best games I've had with Kamahl.
My board:
Gauntlet of Power, Caged Sun, Mana Reflection, Vernal Bloom + 36 lands
Previous turns:
One of my opponents has played an Iona calling Green, and someone else earthquaked all of my creatures, forcing me to greater good at negative cost (I had only 16 2/3 plant tokens inplay, so each activation had me go -1 card)to try and dig for an answer to Iona, since I couldnt swarm and kill the Iona controler anymore.
My turn: Duplicant, imprinting Iona. Play Garruk Primal Hunter, -3, draw 7. Play Kamahl, tapp all my mana (52 floating I think?) Rude awakening entwined, activate kamahl's over run 8 times, kill everyone.
In another game with only 4 players I was able to Genesis wave into a Rampaging Baloth with 5 lands, Caged Sun, Regal Force, and Akroma's Memorial. Due to Regal force I drew into a tooth and nail, cast it with Entwine cost and brought in Craterhoof Behemoth and Avenger of Zendikar and then killed everyone.
So, recently played some more games and Ive found that Chameleon Colossus, Ant Queen, and Lurking Predators do pretty much nothing for me. Thinking of putting in Soul of the Harvest, as he is a solid beater who draws me cards for doing what my deck does. Also contemplating doing some testing with Ulvenwald Tracker, as he creates consistent reusable removal for Green.
Also, cut Oran-Rief, the Vastwood for Boseiju, who Shelters all, cause Ive been playing against many more Blue decks recently.
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Anyway, the list:
1 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
1 Rofellos, Llanowar emissary
1 Sakura Tribe Elder
1 Fierce Empath
1 Wood Elves
1 Farhaven Elf
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Yavimaya Dryad
1 Eternal Witness
1 Oracle of Muldaya
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Wolfbriar Elemental
1 Ant Queen
1 Acidic Slime
1 Indrik Stomphowler
1 Genesis
1 Rampaging Baloths
1 Primeval Titan
1 Deadwood Treefolk
1 Duplicant
1 Regal Force
1 Krosan Tusker
1 Avenger of Zendikar
1 Terastodon
1 Woodfall Primus
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Vorniclex, Voice of Hunger
1 Artisan of Kozilek
1 Ulamog, The Infinite Gyre
1 Karn Liberated
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Krosan Grip
1 Beast Within
1 Chord of Calling
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Gelatinous Genesis
1 Regrowth
1 Cultivate
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Genesis Wave
1 Skyshroud Claim
1 Beacon of Creation
1 Harmonize
1 Primal Command
1 Rude Awakening
1 Desert Twister
1 Howl of the Night Pack
1 All is Dust
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Praetor's Council
1 Survival of the Fitest
1 Sylvan Library
1 Vernal Bloom
1 Greater Good
1 Mana Reflection
1 Lurking Predators
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Caged Sun
1 Akroma's Memorial
29 Forests
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Windswepth Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Oran Rief the Vastwood
1 Yavimaya Hollow
1 Mosswort Bridge
The strategies of the deck are really straight forward:
Make alot of mana, kill them with Gelatinous Genesis, Genesis Wave, Kamahl, Wolfbriar, etc. the hard part is dealing with everyone else trying to kill you, when your only instant speed responses are Krosan Grip, Beast within, and Chord of calling vs their counter spells, tons of removal, and infi combos. anyway, thoughts?
Solemn Simulacrum - I love sad robot as much as the next guy but I feel he doesn't make as much sense in mono green.. He is great in non rampy colors, and awesome with repeated recursion, but in Kamahl I think he doesn't fit as well. If you are needed draw Regal Force is far better and if you need ramp your in green. way more options.
Lurking Predators - I like this car a lot when you have like 50 creatures, How does it work for you with fewer? I guess ramp allows you to thin the deck which may help a bit.
Now that you mention it, Sad Robot is less stellar that Wood elves and the like, any suggestions on what to replace him with?
Lurking Predators I just put in, but in theory it will trigger 3 times a rotation in a full game. Even with 28 creatures, I'm bound to hit something with 3 activations + I have Top and Library.
For draw i love Regal Force in my deck...
For ramp (not that I think you need it lol) maybe Hunting Wilds?
You could also go with standard mana dorks or artifacts... Sol ring, Darksteel Ingot, etc..
It was the combination of the two at low CC. Regal seems good off of a Tooth and Nail with avenger, but by himself he doesn't seem so great. Maybe I'll just test him out and see.
Also, Not a fan of mana rocks in mono green, as Lands do more for me.
Might cut Primordial Hydra too, though to be fair I haven't really played him alot.
Regal Force - usually draws far more... includes a 5/5 body for Kamahl to pump all for the bargain price of 7 mana... Tooth and nail makes it great sure but it's no slouch by itself and I regularly have more than enough mana to cast it and have some left over.
Already playing Harmonize. I guess I'll try out Regal.
Alright. In that case I'm going to put a proxy of Regal in now and during the week I'll play some games with him and see if he works, in which case I'll buy one. Thanks for the advice. Any other suggestions?
Explain? I dont see how masticore would help.
Because for 1G you can destroy any land in play. It's a nice interaction but then you sit there looking at Masticore going "God this is awful." I'd rather have Acorn Catapult to ping the lands since it can be a pseudo Bitterblossom in the deck too, but in my experience you just let other people play Wraths and Volcanic Fallouts and take advantage of those.
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It would be 2G, and in that case Thornbite staff would honestly just be better, because I wouldn't have to discard cards to keep it alive.
And yeah, I usually just drop a Kicked Wolf Briar or an Avenger and force a wrath, to which I usually kill 3-5 lands.
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Yeah, I'm not looking to actively LD either. I just want to drop dudes and kill people.
EDIT: So I feel like Craterhoof Behemoth might have a home here, especially since I can animate my lands with Kamahl to increase the value of X. Also, Tooth and Nail for Craterhoof and Avenger seems really good.
Also, I have a Ulasht, the Hate Seed EDH deck with Kamahl, Fist of Krosa as a wincon. You do realize the interaction between Kamahl and the Thornbite Staff? Sorta douchy, but hey, ya might need it sometime...
I run the Primordial Hydra as a diversion tactic, or secondary wincon beater. Works well with Forgotten Ancient, Spearbreaker Behemoth and Asceticism which are also in the deck. Doubling Season and Blade of the Bloodchief are there too. These last two cards will grow THAT hyrda real BIG, real FAST.
They work great with my tokens too.
Natural order isn't going to happen any time soon.
New card spoiled last night. 5GGG for a 5/5 with haste who gives all creatures +X/+X and trample the turn he comes into play, including himself (X= the number of creatures you have). at very worst, hes a 6/6 haste trample on the turn he comes on, but at best (with kamahl animating lands, or Avenger, or Post rude awakeneing) hes pretty much guarentees a kill.
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Like I said before, not really a big fan of the LD route. I just want to focus on generating a ton of mana, and dropping threats everyturn until I kill everyone.
Played my newly made Kamahl Deck last night.
Mimic Vat was huge, had Primeval Titan under it for ramp, it was sent to the grave yard and brought back to be paired with Avenger of Zendikar. It was a definite game changer for as long as I could keep it.
Momentous fall was great as well with the green fatties all over the place for card draw. I had a ton of fun with it and only LD'd during a wipe. Warned everyone before we began that is what would happen as to not draw any extra whining.
Fun Deck
EDH-
Current:
:symg::symg:Kamahl, Fist of Krosa:symg::symg:
:symw::symw:Konda, Lord of Eiganjo:symw::symw:
:symr::symr:Urabrask, The Hidden:symr::symr:
:symw::symu::symg:Jenara, Asura of War:symw::symu::symg:
:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg:Scion of the Ur Dragon:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg:
Retired:
:symb::symb:Ob Nixillus, the Fallen:symb::symb:
:symu::symu:Memnarch:symu::symu:
:symw::symb::symg:Doran, The Siege Tower:symw::symb::symg:
My board:
Gauntlet of Power, Caged Sun, Mana Reflection, Vernal Bloom + 36 lands
Previous turns:
One of my opponents has played an Iona calling Green, and someone else earthquaked all of my creatures, forcing me to greater good at negative cost (I had only 16 2/3 plant tokens inplay, so each activation had me go -1 card)to try and dig for an answer to Iona, since I couldnt swarm and kill the Iona controler anymore.
My turn: Duplicant, imprinting Iona. Play Garruk Primal Hunter, -3, draw 7. Play Kamahl, tapp all my mana (52 floating I think?) Rude awakening entwined, activate kamahl's over run 8 times, kill everyone.
In another game with only 4 players I was able to Genesis wave into a Rampaging Baloth with 5 lands, Caged Sun, Regal Force, and Akroma's Memorial. Due to Regal force I drew into a tooth and nail, cast it with Entwine cost and brought in Craterhoof Behemoth and Avenger of Zendikar and then killed everyone.
I love playing Mono Green!
Also, cut Oran-Rief, the Vastwood for Boseiju, who Shelters all, cause Ive been playing against many more Blue decks recently.