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Old 02-24-2012, 09:12 AM   #1
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Default Your top 5 things magic players need to STOP doing

For me.

5-Asking for trades while I'm playing a game your crappy B/W sorin tokens deck can wait 10 minutes to get the 2 isolated chapels I have because I'm sure the pro tour didn't just announce a flash qualifier in the parking lot. There's no rush.

4- saying "sure" after I play a card dude, you're playing r/g aggro. Don't pause then say " sure" like you have a response to me playing a card. Last time I checked cultivate doesn't counter ****.

3- borrowing dice/having no tokens/ counters I'm really glad you got that G/W tokens deck built. Would you mind spending a whopping 6 bucks to represent all the tokens you're making by buying a ****ing dice cube. I don't mind loosing, but I do mind loosing to loose change, a shoe lace, and a burger king wrapper because you refuse to buy dice.

2-spaz hand shuffling Brian kibler invented this because he's afraid of social interaction. Seriously, say you meet ANYONE worth a salt. You tell them you play magic; no big deal, right? WRONG. If they saw you on camera shuffling your hand like you were sharpening knives, they're going to stay away from you.

1-telling people you're a loser because you play magic
This seriously gets me. Just recently at a dark ascension pre release there was a film crew filming a documentary about magic. When asked "why do you play magic" a player said "because I have no life, I don't want to be on camera so you hipster movie ****s can make fun of us". Honestly, my Heart broke. I really enjoy the people I play magic with. I could give two ****s what they
Do or what that look like. I'm just happy to see them every time I show up to play. Magic is a social game, it only thrives because it has a community. Trading, testing, casuals... Ect. So seriously, if you play magic, yes you are a nerd, but you're probaly more socially adept, accepting, and accommodating then probaly half the human population. Don't doubt and hate yourself.

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Old 02-24-2012, 09:21 AM   #2
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I don't mind loosing, but I do mind loosing to loose change, a shoe lace, and a burger king wrapper because you refuse to buy dice.
This one made me LOL... Did the shoelace have trample?

I would say my BIGGEST pet peeve is when you're drafting... you pick a REALLY good removal spell or Bomb creature in your color... and the guy you just passed to says "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU PASSED ME THIS!!!!! IT'S SOOO GOOD!!!!"

Great, that's fine... and likely 3rd pack and not in my color.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:25 AM   #3
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I don't have five, but number one would definitely be "using the wrong you're when talking about me."

Just teasing. The trade thing is awful. We have one guy who always does it, and he asks for the most backwards stuff when we're trying to play mid -tournament. No, I don't have any foil relentless rats, your thrummingrats deck isn't very good anyway, foiling it isn't going to help.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:28 AM   #4
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1) Saying "Are you done?" after my combat damage phase every time. No, I'll tell you when I'm done, and I have 2nd main.

2) Not showering/ignoring deodorant/not brushing teeth. Also, exhaling deeply on your opponent is pretty much the worst.

3) Appearing to be miserable playing magic - it's a fun game, not life or death.

4) Trading with your buddy while playing a game.

5) Blaming mana screw, citing it as the only reason why you lost.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:29 AM   #5
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5) Blaming mana screw, citing it as the only reason why you lost.
This one, while it can be annoying if it happens all the time is actually a real complaint...just when it is then it is fairly obvious. No 3rd land drop for 5 turns, no spells played until turn 6. You can always attribute part of it to "poor deck construction" (which is what my friend and me say to each other when we get mana screwed), but it does happen bbut probably not as much as some people say. When they blame mana screw for a loss when they were one mana short of Giant Spell X, or Large Storm, then I totally agree.


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3- borrowing dice/having no tokens/ counters I'm really glad you got that G/W tokens deck built. Would you mind spending a whopping 6 bucks to represent all the tokens you're making by buying a ****ing dice cube. I don't mind loosing, but I do mind loosing to loose change, a shoe lace, and a burger king wrapper because you refuse to buy dice.
Pro Tip: Shoelaces make good Wurm tokens!
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:33 AM   #6
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This one made me LOL... Did the shoelace have trample?
Don't be ridiculous, snakes don't have trample :P

4. Drawing a card immediately after combat ends. Srsly, hold on. I know how to play Magic, so I use my second main phase. This isn't Pokemon (edit: not to hate on Pokemon).

3. Sweeping your recently drawn card across the battlefield before putting it into your hand. This I just don't get; it's less annoying than shuffling one's hand, but there's even less reason to do it. At least shuffling can be blamed on nerves or general inability to sit still.

2. Pushy speculative trading. I don't mind if a guy is like "I don't want to trade for that 'cause it's gonna go down/up," but don't push your imaginary prices on me. If something is worth $25 now, that's what it's worth. If you think it's gonna go down, you can bloody wait to trade for it.

1. "SO BROKEN!" Really? That six card combo you just discovered is so broken? That burn spell that's strictly worse than Lightning Bolt is so broken? Good gravy, I hate this stupid phrase. The ridiculous inflections various people put on it only make it worse. The word broken has lost its meaning much in the way "hilarious" and "awesome" have. While these words were once the absolute extremes, you can now use them to describe the most menial examples.
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This one made me LOL... Did the shoelace have trample?

I would say my BIGGEST pet peeve is when you're drafting... you pick a REALLY good removal spell or Bomb creature in your color... and the guy you just passed to says "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU PASSED ME THIS!!!!! IT'S SOOO GOOD!!!!"

Great, that's fine... and likely 3rd pack and not in my color.
Not a joke, a guy played avenger and reped his tokens with his shoe lace making knots for each token.

Other nonsense I've seen: French fry tokens, Cigarette tokens, and the worst... Which You're not going to believe, arm hairs. ARM HAIRS! He plucked em out and tapped them! WHAAAAAT!
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3. Sweeping your recently drawn card across the battlefield before putting it into your hand. This I just don't get; it's less annoying than shuffling one's hand, but there's even less reason to do it. At least shuffling can be blamed on nerves or general inability to sit still.
This one I can at least find some justification for...they are showing that they are not drawing extra cards. Also, it is a physical reminder for them to check for something during upkeep so they don't miss a trigger. Kind of like putting a stop on your upkeep in MTGO.
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4. Drawing a card immediately after combat ends. Srsly, hold on. I know how to play Magic, so I use my second main phase.
Yeah that's a biggie. I always wait till someone says they are at end of turn before I go... but then they never do and they sit there staring at their cards like I'm a mind reader. TELL ME YOU ARE DONE!!!!!

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5. Giving me a signal to signify his/her turn has ended. Honestly, I do not notice this most of the time and the opponent ends up saying "Done" in an annoyed manner.

4. Trading amidst a game.

3. Accidentally spilling drinks or dripping drinks at a game table. The table gets really sticky and makes my sleeves/play mat dirty and sticky as well.

2. Trash talking. It is funny, but only to some extent. Calling me poor when you lose to my lower priced deck or because my deck isn't as expensive/complete as the netdeck counterpart really annoys me. Quoting a recent FNM opponent "I might have lost, but dude, at least I can afford to make a top tier deck". It really bugs me.

1. RAGEQUIT! Lol. A few people I have encountered just ragequit when they get mana screwed, are close to the win but somehow lose or lose to opponents they think they're better than. (Sadly I did this when I got mana screwed at a crucial match.) LOL
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5. Giving me a signal to signify his/her turn has ended. Honestly, I do not notice this most of the time and the opponent ends up saying "Done" in an annoyed manner.
That's the thing though... part of being a good player is paying attention to the other player. Watching their mannerisms, and subtle queues in the way they react to their draws and hand manipulation can sometimes be telling.
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Things that I sometimes dislike when I go to draft once a week:

(1) When people are super serious and anti-social and won't even respond to you when you try to talk to them while playing.

(2) When people start to untap their mana and draw a card when I have not even said I am done with my turn yet.

(3) When people start discussing the cards they picked and decks their playing during draft before we're even through the first pack. I have no problem dicking around and having fun but at least keep the strategy and guesswork and signaling related to drafting in mind until you're through all 3 packs.

(4) When people draft ****ty rares because they "needed that card" instead of actually drafting to try and make a good deck.

(5) Playing against 9 year olds who are playing with their parents sitting next to them. It's just awkward.

EDIT: Oh man and how could I forget, the thing I actually hate the MOST by far - People who come to draft and leave after the first game, dooming someone in the pod to having a bye and having to sit there twiddling their thumbs instead of getting to play. For some reason, people who leave after draft and without finishing their games make me rage so hard :/
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5 not showering before a game. Come on, if I can find the time to clean up in an airport bathroom, going on no sleep between a grand prix and legacy open...you can shower at home before a game.

4 taking 5 minutes to decide wether to counter a spell or not. I get that you are playing control but five mins of not playing a spell and I will call the judge

3 complaining about how stale standard is ad naseum. Dont like standard theres tons of other formats to play

2 complaining about hand shuffling/card flicking. We do this to hide iinformation (like wether we are topdecking answers or not....post Gitaxian probe it really helps

1 complaining that my tier 2 jank combo is unfair or not a real deck after beating your pro tour net deck.
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This one I can at least find some justification for...they are showing that they are not drawing extra cards. Also, it is a physical reminder for them to check for something during upkeep so they don't miss a trigger. Kind of like putting a stop on your upkeep in MTGO.
Yeah sliding the cards you draw does at least serve a purpose. It keeps you from accidentally picking up two cards and if you do pick up an extra one you can notice before putting it in your hand.
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There are a lot of really salty magic players in this thread.
So my top 5 is people who complain
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