I've never been one to research the story behind magic. But this guy is confusing...
Why does he hit people with flying objects if he wants to learn?
But anyway, on to the deck.
Sean McKowen designed it on an episode of Dear, Azami on Star City Games.
I've done some tweaking, and there is more to come, but its mostly still the deck he made.
I've wanted to share this with you guys and get some feedback for a while now so here goes.
I hate Etched Champion and want to cut it for Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer as soon as I get one. I'm not really impressed with Steel Overseer or Jar of Eyeballs. Anyone know other early drops that have similar or just straight better effects?
Well, what if there's secrets stuck under the artifacts he finds in the ground?! He must unearth those artifacts! I don't see enough solid Kiki-Jiki targets, nor do I see enough card draw.
For Kiki-Jiki I normally target: Solemn Simulacrum, Junk Diver, Myr Battlesphere, Myr Retriever, Forgemaster, Duplicant, Hoarding Dragon. Those targets are for pure value. Now if you add Bosh into the mix any high CMC creature is a worthy target for 'discovering his past.' If you add Karn, Silver Golem in, then any artifact with a trigger is worth it too. Now I would love some juicy targets I'm missing. Any suggestions?
I had a Bosh deck for a long time before I turned it in Slobad. Some things that i found to be very solid choices that were always good: Gamble, Grafted Exoskeleton (and Godo, Bandit Warlord to get it), Gauntlet of Might if you can, and wheel effects are really good like wheel of fortune and reforge the soul. I know I was never able to get the deck to run exactly how I wanted, there are a lot of really good 3 color decks that always gave me trouble in my local meta and mono red really had trouble keeping up, Magus of the Moon, Blood Moon, Ruination, Sundering Titan really helped the deck keep pace. I know some play groups frown at these cards but mono red really needs these cards to stand a chance vs. tuned multi color decks. Also, Myr Incubator is really good with Vicious Shadows either with a sac outlet or as a deterrent to a board wipe.
I should put gamble in there. I might cut jar of eyeballs for it.
The tri-color good stuff decks give me trouble as well. This deck is more for fun/casual then some of my other decks and I use it when the other guys aren't playing.
I've got a love hate thing going on with wheel effects. The deck could use them sometimes but other times I actually get some good draw power. What would you cut for them?
I would suggest cutting: Steel Overseer (not a ton of creeps to buff), Seer's Sundial (unless you plan to run Journeyer's kite, which is a good add), Ratchet Bomb (unless there are a lot of token decks in your meta), Etched Champion (2/2 with no impactful ability it just ok imo), and Jar of Eyeballs (not sure if you have enough creatures to make this worth while).
I posted a Primer for Slobad, goblin tinkerer which used to be my bosh deck after a few changes. It is still very heavily artifacts so you might find it useful (link in my sig).
Yeah I've been looking at it. Its a good deck but it does things I don't wanna do. Mass land destruction is banned in my local playgroup. Its quite annoying, but I like playing there and don't want to make anyone mad lol. I agree with your cuts 100%. I might add a skull clamp, scare crone, and journeys kite. I'm gonna cut Etched Champion for Slobad.
Copper Gnomes is awesome thanks. It could be pretty sweet with the right draw.
I think Journeyer's Kite needs to go in. Any suggestions as what to cut?
I could see running a Moon effect but I really like my non-basics. The only problem with the mass land hate is that it is gonna be hit or miss in the meta. Its gonna wreck some people and gonna be overly mean against others. I could run Wake of Destruction for killing annoying lands like Cabal Coffers though, and I have been thinking about it.
I also updated my foils list. Cheap but pretty lol.
I tried Journeyer's Kite in Baubles place and kinda missed the effect to get ahead a land drop. I'm trying it in place of Expedition Map at the moment.
I've been playing Hellkite Igniter for a while in Slobad and if you run all the mana doublers that red has this guy gets nuts. I've never played him and had him hit for less then 15. One time i had aMyr Battlesphere, Gauntlet of Might, and a few other artifacts and swung for 40. He seems like just another beater but he always does absurd damage.
I wonder if I have one of those laying around in the crap-rare section. He sounds really awesome. What are your thoughts on mindslaver? I've been thinking about running it.
I also updated my foils list. Cheap but pretty lol.
I tried Journeyer's Kite in Baubles place and kinda missed the effect to get ahead a land drop. I'm trying it in place of Expedition Map at the moment.
You should be playing Armirilary Sphere, Wayfarer's Bauble AND Expedition Map. They do so much good as smoothing things out that I cannot imagine not playing them.
What would you suggest I cut for Armirilary Sphere? The list in the first post is accurate with the paper deck at the moment. I like the idea of another mana source but I very rarely feel mana screwed.
Jar of Eyeballs stands out to me just looking at the list. I'd need to really sit down and goldfish it a few times to give you solid data. Remember, making land drops and ensuring you keep an upward curve of power are the most critical things when building a deck. I always build my decks with this in mind to the point where I'm disappointed when land drops are missed. Other than abusing CoW and Rings, what are the panorama's doing for you?
So I took this deck apart a while ago. I've recently put it back together with some changes due to cards being in other decks and just forgetting what I ran. I added Moggcatcher to search up Goblin Welder and Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer because those little dudes can be so amazing in the deck. This makes me wonder if I should try to find room for more goblins... A lot of mono red decks on the forum run goblin toolboxes so I was wondering if this would be appropriate here. Personally it seems like an awesome way to get some card advantage, but I'm not sure so I figured I would ask anyone who happens to read this. I wouldn't want any of the aggro goblins or goblins matter cards, so it might be more like a goblin tool belt instead of a toolbox.
I will probably update the first post tonight with the new list and some sort of changelog. I might spend some time to explain the deck and the general as well. I haven't decided if it would be worth trying to do that yet but if there is even one person out there playing Bosh who wants to team up and build the deck with me I would love to put some detail into it.
I've never been one to research the story behind magic. But this guy is confusing...
Why does he hit people with flying objects if he wants to learn?
But anyway, on to the deck.
Sean McKowen designed it on an episode of Dear, Azami on Star City Games.
I've done some tweaking, and there is more to come, but its mostly still the deck he made.
I've wanted to share this with you guys and get some feedback for a while now so here goes.
1x Thran Dynamo
1x Mind's Eye
1x Rings of Brighthearth
1x Mirrorworks (foil)
1x Seer's Sundial (foil)
1x Sculpting Steel
1x Voltaic Key
1x Journeyer's Kite
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Contagion Engine (foil)
1x Trading Post
1x Brittle Effigy
1x Expedition Map
1x Spine of Ish Sah
1x Caged Sun
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Guantlet of Power
1x Dreamstone Hedron
1x Oblivion Stone
1x Extraplanar Lens
1x Skyship Weatherlight
1x Ratchet Bomb
1x Lux Cannon
1x Ichor Wellspring (foil)
1x Sol Ring
1x Minion Reflector
1x Temporal Aperture
1x Mycosynth Wellspring (foil)
1x Prototype Portal (foil)
1x Planar Portal
1x Wayfarer's Bauble
1x Crucible of Worlds
1x Worn Powerstone
1x Karn, Silver Golem
1x Junk Diver
1x Mycosynth Golem
1x Darksteel Collossus
1x Shimmer Myr (foil)
1x Myr Welder (foil)
1x Myr Battlesphere (foil)
1x Myr Retriever
1x Kuldotha Forgemaster
1x Platinum Emperion
1x Pentavus (foil)
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Platinum Angel
1x Steel Hellkite
1x Duplicant
1x Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1x Hoarding Dragon
1x Goblin Welder
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1x Trash for Treasure
1x Chaos Warp
1x Word of Seizing (foil)
1x Vicious Shadows
1x All is Dust
1x Karn Liberated
1x Grixis Panorama (foil)
1x Naya Panorama
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Wasteland
1x Forgotten Cave
1x Haunted Fengraf
1x Buried Ruin
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Phyrexia's Core
1x Ancient Tomb
1x Great Furnace
1x Eye of Ugin
1x Temple of the False God
1x Darksteel Citadel
1x Valakut, the Mote Pinnacle
20x Snow-Covered Mountain
I hate Etched Champion and want to cut it for Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer as soon as I get one. I'm not really impressed with Steel Overseer or Jar of Eyeballs. Anyone know other early drops that have similar or just straight better effects?
CHANGES:
Recently picked up a Worn Powerstone and cut Steel Overseer for it.
Jar of Eyeballs was cut for Trading Post and Nim Deathmantle was cut for Journeyer's Kite.
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For Kiki-Jiki I normally target: Solemn Simulacrum, Junk Diver, Myr Battlesphere, Myr Retriever, Forgemaster, Duplicant, Hoarding Dragon. Those targets are for pure value. Now if you add Bosh into the mix any high CMC creature is a worthy target for 'discovering his past.' If you add Karn, Silver Golem in, then any artifact with a trigger is worth it too. Now I would love some juicy targets I'm missing. Any suggestions?
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RRRSlobad, Goblin TinkererRRR
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GUBWRx5c ShopsxGUBWR
The tri-color good stuff decks give me trouble as well. This deck is more for fun/casual then some of my other decks and I use it when the other guys aren't playing.
I've got a love hate thing going on with wheel effects. The deck could use them sometimes but other times I actually get some good draw power. What would you cut for them?
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BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
I posted a Primer for Slobad, goblin tinkerer which used to be my bosh deck after a few changes. It is still very heavily artifacts so you might find it useful (link in my sig).
RRRSlobad, Goblin TinkererRRR
GUBSnapcaster GushBUG
GUBWRx5c ShopsxGUBWR
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Journeyer's Kite would also be good with the Valakut.
Copper Gnomes might also be helpful, but I don't know. It's only good if you get the right set up early.
EDH:
:symw::symw::symw:Darien:symw::symw::symw:
:symr::symr::symr:Lovisa:symr::symr::symr:
:symu::symw::symg:Rafiq:symu::symw::symg:
:symb::symr::symg:Karrthus:symb::symr::symg:
:symr::symw::symb:Kaalia:symr::symw::symb:
I think Journeyer's Kite needs to go in. Any suggestions as what to cut?
I could see running a Moon effect but I really like my non-basics. The only problem with the mass land hate is that it is gonna be hit or miss in the meta. Its gonna wreck some people and gonna be overly mean against others. I could run Wake of Destruction for killing annoying lands like Cabal Coffers though, and I have been thinking about it.
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BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
EDH:
:symw::symw::symw:Darien:symw::symw::symw:
:symr::symr::symr:Lovisa:symr::symr::symr:
:symu::symw::symg:Rafiq:symu::symw::symg:
:symb::symr::symg:Karrthus:symb::symr::symg:
:symr::symw::symb:Kaalia:symr::symw::symb:
I also updated my foils list. Cheap but pretty lol.
I tried Journeyer's Kite in Baubles place and kinda missed the effect to get ahead a land drop. I'm trying it in place of Expedition Map at the moment.
GWUBAtraxa, Praetor's Voice PrimerGWUB
GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
RRRSlobad, Goblin TinkererRRR
GUBSnapcaster GushBUG
GUBWRx5c ShopsxGUBWR
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GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
You should be playing Armirilary Sphere, Wayfarer's Bauble AND Expedition Map. They do so much good as smoothing things out that I cannot imagine not playing them.
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BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
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GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
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I will probably update the first post tonight with the new list and some sort of changelog. I might spend some time to explain the deck and the general as well. I haven't decided if it would be worth trying to do that yet but if there is even one person out there playing Bosh who wants to team up and build the deck with me I would love to put some detail into it.
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GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG