restoration angel

drakeavril · 05-26-2012, 10:27 PM

Seems like new tech in UW Delver after 5k Nashville at SCG. People are now hesitant to attack into a delver player with 4 mana open lol. Worse case, it's still a flying beater with a big butt.

Topper · 05-26-2012, 10:59 PM

Invisible Stalker/Runchanter's Pike was always the weak link in the deck. Now the deck can make room for better equipment, and the white Vendilion Clique (yea I said it), which can act as a functional counter to removal...as if Delver didn't have enough counters...and as if Delver didn't need another clock...at instant speed. So yea, Restoration Angel is the goods.

ASongOfIceAndFire · 05-27-2012, 02:52 PM

I think another big tech to go along with the angel is the use of FaF instead of WaP. The pro colors are pretty relevant these days and untapping your mana to fully utilize restoration and snapcaster is huge.

chili01 · 05-27-2012, 05:13 PM

I've seen it for 2 weeks against some delver before nashville. It is quite a problem actually. Flexible too since it can exile something that is target for a removal or as a surprise blocker.

mealich · 05-28-2012, 03:31 AM

I played with a similar deck yesterday and I found the new tech quite good. I usually used the angel after they blocked my Geist or eot for beatdown with no target.
if you are a delver player don't hasitate and use the new tech.

DXI-Edge · 06-03-2012, 01:51 PM

BREAKING NEWS:

If you control only a Phantasmal Image and you play Restoration Angel, it HAS to target it, even if it doesn't blink it.

So playing an Angel with only an Image kills the image.

Straight from a Head Judge's mouth

Einherjar · 06-03-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DXI-Edge

BREAKING NEWS:

If you control only a Phantasmal Image and you play Restoration Angel, it HAS to target it, even if it doesn't blink it.

So playing an Angel with only an Image kills the image.

Straight from a Head Judge's mouth

so it always targets something, just doesn't necessarily blink it? interesting.

h4rr0d · 06-03-2012, 02:54 PM

Yeah, it actually makes sense. If it didn't have to target, the text would read
'When [THIS] enters battelfield, you may target a non-Angel creature you control, exile it and then return that card to battlefield under your control.'

FoodChainGoblins · 06-03-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by h4rr0d

Yeah, it actually makes sense. If it didn't have to target, the text would read
'When [THIS] enters battelfield, you may target a non-Angel creature you control, exile it and then return that card to battlefield under your control.'

That's true. Good way of putting it, as it was very confusing to me too. I'm pretty sure that my PTQ opponent cheated me on this, although it probably wasn't on purpose.

crK! · 06-03-2012, 07:45 PM

eh? the text on the card does state

"When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control."

Pretty sure you dont have to target something.

bearabl · 06-03-2012, 07:55 PM

Yea this confuses me to, the card cleary says you may. What am i missing that it must target even if it doesnt blink?

Mordok · 06-03-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crK!

eh? the text on the card does state

"When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control."

Pretty sure you dont have to target something.

You MUST target something when casting Restoration Angel, it is an ETB affect like Fiend Hunter. You can then choose to or to not exile the target creature, of course if that creature is an image it will be sacrified.

( I play online and the client creates a trigger, which must be put on the stack and then used to target a creature)

Edit: Since it does go on the stack, you can respond by activating Moorland Haunt or casting Snapcaster etc to create a target for the trigger.

DXI-Edge · 06-03-2012, 08:46 PM

or you could just not having anything for the trigger. Why would you activate Moorland to create a trigger? it would kill the spirit...

wkdkryz · 06-03-2012, 08:54 PM

I think you should read it as "you-may-exile" first then "target non angel" therefore it definitely targets.

If you read it as "you-may" then "exile-target-non-angel". It doesn't require a target.

DXI-Edge · 06-03-2012, 09:03 PM

no i know how it works...i understand. I'm asking why making a spirit for its trigger makes any sense. i mean i guess u don't exile it but is this for the Image thing? because THAT Makes sense, as then u don't kill Image, but to do it just to do it, which is how i read it, makes no sense

05-26-2012, 10:27 PM	#1
drakeavril Wizard Mentor Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kingston, CA Posts: 651	restoration angel Seems like new tech in UW Delver after 5k Nashville at SCG. People are now hesitant to attack into a delver player with 4 mana open lol. Worse case, it's still a flying beater with a big butt.
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05-26-2012, 10:59 PM	#2
Topper Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,996	Invisible Stalker/Runchanter's Pike was always the weak link in the deck. Now the deck can make room for better equipment, and the white Vendilion Clique (yea I said it), which can act as a functional counter to removal...as if Delver didn't have enough counters...and as if Delver didn't need another clock...at instant speed. So yea, Restoration Angel is the goods. __________________ Standard UWR Midrange (0-0) Plasm RUG (5-3) UR Blasphemous (1-2-1) RUG Flash (0-2) RUG Delver (3-1) RUG Midrange (11-6-1) Saito Naya (7-1) Modern BG Varolz (0-0) RUG Delver (6-2) RUG Control (0-0) Naya Pod (0-0) Legacy RUG Delver (2-2), RUG Cascade (0-0), Food Chain (3-2) Trade Binder
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05-27-2012, 02:52 PM	#3
ASongOfIceAndFire Experienced Mage Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Seven Kingdoms Posts: 135	I think another big tech to go along with the angel is the use of FaF instead of WaP. The pro colors are pretty relevant these days and untapping your mana to fully utilize restoration and snapcaster is huge. __________________ Currently Playing: Standard: Esper Superfriends UR Delver Naya POD Modern: Storm Melira POD (In progress) EDH : Kaalia Of The Vast
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05-27-2012, 05:13 PM	#4
chili01 Archmage Overlord Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: California Posts: 1,043	I've seen it for 2 weeks against some delver before nashville. It is quite a problem actually. Flexible too since it can exile something that is target for a removal or as a surprise blocker. __________________ Currently Playing: Standard Aristocrats Aggro
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06-03-2012, 01:51 PM	#6
DXI-Edge 1 Billion...Gangam Style! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,601 Blog Entries: 11	BREAKING NEWS: If you control only a Phantasmal Image and you play Restoration Angel, it HAS to target it, even if it doesn't blink it. So playing an Angel with only an Image kills the image. Straight from a Head Judge's mouth __________________ DNC made my INSANE sig & avvie My New Blog: Standard's Situation My Decks:
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05-28-2012, 03:31 AM	#5
mealich Just Getting Started Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 28	I played with a similar deck yesterday and I found the new tech quite good. I usually used the angel after they blocked my Geist or eot for beatdown with no target. if you are a delver player don't hasitate and use the new tech.
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06-03-2012, 02:54 PM	#8
h4rr0d Experienced Mage Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 75 Blog Entries: 1	Yeah, it actually makes sense. If it didn't have to target, the text would read 'When [THIS] enters battelfield, you may target a non-Angel creature you control, exile it and then return that card to battlefield under your control.' __________________ PAUPER 8Post
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06-03-2012, 07:45 PM	#10
crK! Common Mage Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 47	eh? the text on the card does state "When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control, then return that card to the battlefield under your control." Pretty sure you dont have to target something.
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06-03-2012, 07:55 PM	#11
bearabl Common Mage Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 44	Yea this confuses me to, the card cleary says you may. What am i missing that it must target even if it doesnt blink?
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06-03-2012, 08:46 PM	#13
DXI-Edge 1 Billion...Gangam Style! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,601 Blog Entries: 11	or you could just not having anything for the trigger. Why would you activate Moorland to create a trigger? it would kill the spirit... __________________ DNC made my INSANE sig & avvie My New Blog: Standard's Situation My Decks:
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06-03-2012, 08:54 PM	#14
wkdkryz Experienced Mage Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 99 Blog Entries: 1	I think you should read it as "you-may-exile" first then "target non angel" therefore it definitely targets. If you read it as "you-may" then "exile-target-non-angel". It doesn't require a target.
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06-03-2012, 09:03 PM	#15
DXI-Edge 1 Billion...Gangam Style! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,601 Blog Entries: 11	no i know how it works...i understand. I'm asking why making a spirit for its trigger makes any sense. i mean i guess u don't exile it but is this for the Image thing? because THAT Makes sense, as then u don't kill Image, but to do it just to do it, which is how i read it, makes no sense __________________ DNC made my INSANE sig & avvie My New Blog: Standard's Situation My Decks:
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