I've overhauled this list to be more control oriented with late game bombs. I just gave up on trying to abuse damage to all players and this makes my list different from the others to make it legit for having it's own thread.
I think that Rakdos lists utilizing more eldrazi and artifact creatures would be stronger, to have him be a pseudo affinity commander.
Also with use of pestilence and sweepers, Stuffy doll would be a good inclusion to take someone out with.
I feel like you also want both myr here... They are ramp that can accidently turn on rakdos, what more do you want?
One thing i think should be noted is that this deck wont be able to afford running to many cards thats only purpose is to turn on rakdos... There is going to be a real card disadvantage anyways just by nature of the colors and by nature of the fact that this is a general who needs you to commit cards in order to play more cards. Somewhere in between there has to be some real CA so you can actually have something to abuse him with, and clearly Lightning Bolt and Magma Jet should be cut.
Lightning bolt to cast Rakdus for 5cmc... Maybe creatures that ping llike Cunning Sparkmage, Olivia, or Inferno Titan... Then you might as well include Basilisk Collar, Quities Spike, etc to give death touch and insta creature control...
Damn you people are so fast at this. I was thinking maybe I could get the first list up for the new Rakdos but it looks like this one has already been here for 7+ hours. I guess I'll have to be quicker to the punch in Gatecrash. I'll start brewing up a Dimir list right now (JK).
I think lightning bolt was the only unnecessary suggestion cause I already had the card in the list. Probably just tired like me after just waking up. Granted I'm waking up at 1:00pm.
Kokusho is not banned in the french list and since I usually build 1v1 lists I probably forgot last night that I was building multiplayer.
In the case of cheap mass burn like "Whipflare" and Pyroclasm I was too tired to look at the cards last night and thought that they did damage to creatures and players. I don't really want them in here since they only hit creatures. However, I'm still happy with Volcanic Fallout for the time being.
Although, since someone else is already working on this list for multiplayer I'm considering dropping this thread to build a 1v1 list for this general. I mean after looking at his thread y'all are throwing him suggestions of stuff that is already in my list (i.e. Flame Rift, Pyrohemia, Pestilence, etc.)
Edit: I updated the list to a full 100 cards. I'm not sure about the X cost creatures getting benefits from the cost reduction. If Rakdos is in play and I get 3 damage in and then cast Maga for just BBB. I don't think he is gonna come in as a 3/3 and deal 3 damage.
Edit 2: Nevermind I found a ruling on Semblance Anvil that states that it does reduce X.
Edit: I updated the list to a full 100 cards. I'm not sure about the X cost creatures getting benefits from the cost reduction. If Rakdos is in play and I get 3 damage in and then cast Maga for just . I don't think he is gonna come in as a 3/3 and deal 3 damage.
3 damage? rakdos will always do 6 damage. and once you deal 6 damage with maga, you go to 12 damage total which is Ulamog range.
3 damage? rakdos will always do 6 damage. and once you deal 6 damage with maga, you go to 12 damage total which is Ulamog range.
It was just a hypothetical question guy. I was simply questioning whether or not the cost reduction worked for X cost creature spells. I know how much Rakdos swings for (I never said I swung with him anyways, just that I got 3 damage in) and I know that stacking more damage in the same turn will get the cost reduction higher to cast Ulamog.
Anyways I posted in that same response "Edit 2" that I found a card ruling explaining that X cost can be reduced by another cards effect.
It's an instant kill on 1 opponent. I think doing something like that will probably draw all the hate onto you from the remaining players. I'd rather not run Hidetsugu since he also puts my life total at half. I admit he makes eldrazi free to cast after one tap in most situations, but still he is more likely to get you killed than to help you win the game.
Lightning Bolt doesn't magically become a good card in EDH just because there is a commander that needs you to have dealt damage. Same goes for Pulse Tracker.
Then you build the list, or at least suggest better cards to use in their place. It isn't very constructive to simply shoot down cards.
I still think they're useful to the deck not just for summoning the general but also for reducing the cost of other creatures when Rakdos is in play. Besides, Lightning Bolt still has a lot of relevant creatures it can kill (i.e. Kaalia, Rafiq, Riku, Aven Mindscensor, Oracle of Mul-Daya, etc....)
I see a similar theme that I was thinking about, and that is life loss/aoe damage. Is there anyway to turn this into your favor besides being able to cast big creatures? Like you taking less damage somehow? Gaining life back? Anything?
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I see a similar theme that I was thinking about, and that is life loss/aoe damage. Is there anyway to turn this into your favor besides being able to cast big creatures? Like you taking less damage somehow? Gaining life back? Anything?
I decided to nix the mass damage strategy to make my list more unique from others and just focused more on control and late game bombs with a decent number of mana rocks.
More unique? I did the same thing yesterday Justice1337 posted some good advice on the matter in my thread which changed my mind. You don't really need the massive damage because hitting with Rakdos and using your mana too cast your creature instead of the damage spell means you get the same creature without throwing a card from hand for a marginal effect.
By cutting the massive damage only cards I made room for a card like Quicksilver Amulet. It seems smart to have another way to drop our bombs (although it does not combine well with some of the "when you cast this.." creatures you run).
I've overhauled this list to be more control oriented with late game bombs. I just gave up on trying to abuse damage to all players and this makes my list different from the others to make it legit for having it's own thread.
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Creatures (23)
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Nether Traitor
1 Bloodghast
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Duplicant
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Urabrask the Hidden
1 Kozilek, the Butcher of Truth
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Maga, Traitor to Mortals
1 Dread Cacodemon
1 Viashino Heretic
1 Grave Titan
1 Inferno Titan
1 Triskelion
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Goblin Welder
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
1 Bloodgift Demon
Artifacts (23)
1 Sol Ring
1 Coldsteel Heart
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Talisman of Indulgence
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Coalition Relic
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Expedition Map
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Vedalken Orrery
1 Akroma's Memorial
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Mimic Vat
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Nim Deathmantle
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Skullclamp
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Pestilence
1 Warstorm Surge
1 Exquisite Blood
Instants (4)
1 Terminate
1 Grave Consequences (GY hate/pain)
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Reiterate
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1 Aftershock
1 All is Dust
1 Ashes to Ashes
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Damnation
1 Decree of Pain
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Increasing Ambition
Lands (37)
1 Homeward Path
1 Stripmine
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Winding Canyons
1 City of Brass
1 Command Tower
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Badlands
1 Blood Crypt
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Marsh Flats
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Graven Cairns
1 Sulfurous Springs
1 Tainted Peak
1 Lavaclaw Reaches
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Bojuka Bog
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Flayer of the Hatebound - extremely narrow. You really dont have much for reanimation.
Pyroclasm -> Magmaquake instant speed and you can scale it to your needs.
Ripflare - im assuming this was supposed to be Whipflare. Still I would swap it out for Commit Storm for a stronger effect.
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Also with use of pestilence and sweepers, Stuffy doll would be a good inclusion to take someone out with.
Also Priest of Gix and Priest of Urabrask work wonders with it.
Although perhaps that is delving too deep into the realm of combo for the Rakdos ethos
Karplusan Minotaur seems like it could be hilariously political, and is a relatively easy way to get the big bad demon online himself.
Maga Traitor to Mortals is awesome when his cost is reduced. Maggot Carrier isn't bad but he does make Rakdos cost another black mana. Skullclamp cant hurt the deck if you do run more creatures. Pulse Tracker seems strong as well. Rakdos Ickspitter is another option to turn on your general. Soulcage Fiend is great with a sac outlet.
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I feel like you also want both myr here... They are ramp that can accidently turn on rakdos, what more do you want?
One thing i think should be noted is that this deck wont be able to afford running to many cards thats only purpose is to turn on rakdos... There is going to be a real card disadvantage anyways just by nature of the colors and by nature of the fact that this is a general who needs you to commit cards in order to play more cards. Somewhere in between there has to be some real CA so you can actually have something to abuse him with, and clearly Lightning Bolt and Magma Jet should be cut.
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Anyways, this guy seems pretty awesome with Maga, Traitor to Mortals. Also, I would say you want more Haste outlets like Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots to let you swing in a turn earlier and start dropping those fatties. Steel Hellkite and Wurmcoil Engine are pretty scary when they're coming down T4 alongside a 6/6 Rakdos.
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I think lightning bolt was the only unnecessary suggestion cause I already had the card in the list. Probably just tired like me after just waking up. Granted I'm waking up at 1:00pm.
Kokusho is not banned in the french list and since I usually build 1v1 lists I probably forgot last night that I was building multiplayer.
In the case of cheap mass burn like "Whipflare" and Pyroclasm I was too tired to look at the cards last night and thought that they did damage to creatures and players. I don't really want them in here since they only hit creatures. However, I'm still happy with Volcanic Fallout for the time being.
Although, since someone else is already working on this list for multiplayer I'm considering dropping this thread to build a 1v1 list for this general. I mean after looking at his thread y'all are throwing him suggestions of stuff that is already in my list (i.e. Flame Rift, Pyrohemia, Pestilence, etc.)
Edit: I updated the list to a full 100 cards. I'm not sure about the X cost creatures getting benefits from the cost reduction. If Rakdos is in play and I get 3 damage in and then cast Maga for just BBB. I don't think he is gonna come in as a 3/3 and deal 3 damage.
Edit 2: Nevermind I found a ruling on Semblance Anvil that states that it does reduce X.
3 damage? rakdos will always do 6 damage. and once you deal 6 damage with maga, you go to 12 damage total which is Ulamog range.
It was just a hypothetical question guy. I was simply questioning whether or not the cost reduction worked for X cost creature spells. I know how much Rakdos swings for (I never said I swung with him anyways, just that I got 3 damage in) and I know that stacking more damage in the same turn will get the cost reduction higher to cast Ulamog.
Anyways I posted in that same response "Edit 2" that I found a card ruling explaining that X cost can be reduced by another cards effect.
It's an instant kill on 1 opponent. I think doing something like that will probably draw all the hate onto you from the remaining players. I'd rather not run Hidetsugu since he also puts my life total at half. I admit he makes eldrazi free to cast after one tap in most situations, but still he is more likely to get you killed than to help you win the game.
1 Anathemancer
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Crypt Rats
1 Duplicant
1 Falkenrath Aristocrat
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Inferno Titan
1 It That Betrays
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Maga, Traitor to Mortals
1 Olivia Voldaren
1 Pestilence Demon
1 Pulse Tracker
1 Rix Maadi Guildmage
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Stuffy Doll
1 Thrashing Wumpus
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Urabrask the Hidden
1 Vampire Nighthawk
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Chandra Nalaar
1 Chandra, the Firebrand
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1 All Is Dust
1 Blightning
1 Breath of Malfegor
1 Coalition Relic
1 Damnation
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Dreadbore
1 Earthquake
1 Fault Line
1 Fireball
1 Flame Rift
1 Heartless Summoning
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Mana Vault
1 Mimic Vat
1 Pestilence
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Profane Command
1 Pyrohemia
1 Rain of Gore
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Reanimate
1 Sol Ring
1 Staff of Nin
1 Stranglehold
1 Subversion
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Talisman of Indulgence
1 Temporal Extortion
1 Terminate
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Vedalken Orrery
1 Volcanic Fallout
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Command Tower
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Graven Cairns
1 Lavaclaw Reaches
1 Leechridden Swamp
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1 Strip Mine
1 Sulfurous Springs
14 Swamp
1 Tainted Peak
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Then you build the list, or at least suggest better cards to use in their place. It isn't very constructive to simply shoot down cards.
I still think they're useful to the deck not just for summoning the general but also for reducing the cost of other creatures when Rakdos is in play. Besides, Lightning Bolt still has a lot of relevant creatures it can kill (i.e. Kaalia, Rafiq, Riku, Aven Mindscensor, Oracle of Mul-Daya, etc....)
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Well this didn't last very long. I'm putting him back in now that he is unbanned, lol.
By cutting the massive damage only cards I made room for a card like Quicksilver Amulet. It seems smart to have another way to drop our bombs (although it does not combine well with some of the "when you cast this.." creatures you run).
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