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Old 12-31-2012, 01:14 PM   #1291
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I'd argue that there is no WORSE time. When you can just run 8-12 fetchlands and 1 of each shockland, without serious punishment for doing so (Wasteland, Blood Moon) then it actually removes incentive for you to play guilds at all, but just build crazy 5 color aggro and control decks. It's bad for innovation as well.
The do that now, with Farseek. And most top decks these days are triple color, not guild colors.

I think it would make sense to reprint the Onslaught fetchs in DGM.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:34 PM   #1292
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Triple color is still not five color and just because it's raining is no reason to blow up the dam.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:57 AM   #1293
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WOTC seriously need to reprint fetch lands asap though, they are way too expensive for most normal people who can barely afford standard. Just put them in m14 along with lots of non basic land hate to punish greedy mana bases.
The fetch lands aren't bad at all. Most expensive ones are around 30$ which is just staple cards from standard. Not really an issue at all as well as rarity either since they didn't rotate all that long ago either.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:03 AM   #1294
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WOTC seriously need to reprint fetch lands asap though, they are way too expensive for most normal people who can barely afford standard. Just put them in m14 along with lots of non basic land hate to punish greedy mana bases.
They only jumped in price recently. Standard is way expensive for a competitive deck. Sme of the 3 and 4 color standard list I saw we're well into the hundreds.

Dropping prices too far can erode consumer confidence as well. That's not good for the game either.

I do think we will see these in modern masters 2 down the road.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #1295
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I think the current price of the shocks is as high as lands can go and still be reasonably priced - although having them in boosters mitigates this somewhat. I still see people using guild gates instead of shocks due to them being 8 Euros a pop.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:17 AM   #1296
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I think it would make sense to reprint the Onslaught fetchs in DGM.
Not for the same reason Ravnica doesn't have full-art lands. They rather save the sure-sellers for more risky sets.
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Old 01-01-2013, 11:08 PM   #1297
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Here's something from Forsythe's article from today relevant to Modern Masters:

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#2: Commander's Arsenal Distribution

Like From the Vault, Commander's Arsenal was intentionally produced in small quantities so as to be a collectible. Unfortunately, those quantities were likely too small. It's cool to excite your customers, but not cool to frustrate them.

We took this reaction into account when finalizing the print size for Modern Masters; we have no interest in a repeat performance.
While the run is limited, I think this is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:41 PM   #1299
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I hope Modern Masters becomes a regular yearly or perhaps every-other-yearly-thing.

Hopefully Modern really takes off as a result.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:35 PM   #1300
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While the run is limited, I think this is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
While I tend to be positive, saying that this will not make the same mistakes as CA is not saying all that much. There is a wide chasm of quantities between CA and the hope of Coldsnap numbers that a lot of us are hoping for.
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The do that now, with Farseek. And most top decks these days are triple color, not guild colors.

I think it would make sense to reprint the Onslaught fetchs in DGM.
No, it wouldn't. Those cards, with shock lands, would ruin standard.
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:27 PM   #1302
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Onslaught fetches will come, but not in this block. Earliest you can hope for them is M15 so that they would only be in standard with shocks for a few months.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:16 PM   #1303
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is is meant as an assurance that the run won't be quite as limited as some people have feared; this definitely suggests that they aren't going to limit this to anything so limited as a case per store or such.
This evening, I was having a conversation with my LGS owner. He's also one of the largest MTG singles sellers in the US. He is of the impression that this will be an extremely limited run. As he has some of the lowest pack prices around (for standard sets) I asked if he would be selling below the MSRP for Masters.

His reply was: "Packs will probably be $9.99"

Now consider that his pack price for a standard set is $2.85 and you can imagine my consternation at this reply. He elaborated a bit further by indicating that singles sellers like him would exhaust WOTC supply rapidly and that Ebay would end up being the only outlet for said singles sellers to get more sealed product.

Obviously, the set is 6 months out so this is entirely subject to change. I only hope he's wrong and that WOTC learned lessons from Arsenal. Not that Arsenal is even a fair comparison, but I can certainly see why singles sellers would go crazy over MM. I just hope they produce enough to discourage hoarding and allow for actual sealed events at reasonable prices.
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[QUOTE=the-jace;9568301]His reply was: "Packs will probably be $9.99"[QUOTE]

Good gods. Calling in a box preorder now for my sigged store... they're charging $134.40 plus tax for 24-pack boxes!
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:53 PM   #1305
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If the printing of this set has any impact, I expect modern staples not in it to rise.
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