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Old 11-15-2012, 05:38 PM   #31
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this is great news! in my lgs they already have a monthly modern event and most of the people who go to the shop to play casually everyday always bring both a standard and a modern deck.
now the format will get even more popular, which means more opportunities for me to play my favourite deck: mono W kithkins!!
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:39 PM   #32
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Nice idea, this will increase playerbase for modern and more people can play magic. i can feel tarmogoyf going down for a rasonable price 10 dollars at least..now just need to ban fecht lands for the process be completed.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:55 PM   #33
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Very bad troll, 2/10.
Clearly you've never fought against a well build combo elves deck. A friend of mine goes through half of his library on turn 3/4 capping it off by hard casting Emrakul very consistently.

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White decks not using Tarmo was a bit random though.
Monoblack's best suite currently has been infect or aggro. MBC hasn't been so hot. Maybe some Orzhov love will help.

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HA! There was a reason my entire playgroup has shifted to Modern the moment it was announced! And I'm very happy I've already picked up my sets of Verdant Catacombs and Marsh Flats. Bought it for a little more than it was worth when I did, but cheaper than it's going for these days. Misty has shot up 40% already.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:04 PM   #34
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Woot. This is awesome.

Can all the people who said this wouldn't happen because "Wizards only supports their limited/standard cash cows" come and explain?

pushing their crappy format whenever it takes to overshadow all the others
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:08 PM   #35
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Now that the announcement is official I am quite happy I can play a constructed format that is much more diverse than Standard Friday nights and enjoy some Legacy Sundays and Wednesdays

I also found the missing pieces to WUR Delver in my old trade binder so I have a deck that isn't combo or Affinity to play with people
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:10 PM   #36
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Even in a FNM Modern event people can still bring their Tier 1 Type 2 deck to the battle... but how hard is to beat a Semi-Competitive Modern deck with an Standard deck?
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:52 PM   #37
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EIGHT WORDS you should know before you open your mouth. Tarm is viable in only a few decks.

It is not viable in my combo elf deck. Turn 3 or 4 my elves will get infinitely huge and laugh at tarmogoyf while hardcasting emrakul. Need I say more? Fine, I will..

There's a few different white decks that don't use tarmogoyf,

mono black is highly viable in modern.

rdw will use figure of destiny before it smirks at the tarmogoyf.

Oh, and there's Abrupt Decay and Dreadbore for Tarmogoyf and friends. Not only that there's pithing needles, path to exiles, and so many other things...

Tarmogoyf at his best is marginally better than a craw wurm and requires a lot of support to get even there. Where a combo elf deck that costs less than a tarmy can be about 5-10 times stronger. So yeah, Tarm is tough, but he's not the be all or end all and not even required to play.

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Ah pithing needle. Stops tarmogoyf dead in his tracks.

"It dies to removal" is not a viable argument. Otherwise I could just rebuttal the removal with "but your removal loses to Kira."

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Even in a FNM Modern event people can still bring their Tier 1 Type 2 deck to the battle... but how hard is to beat a Semi-Competitive Modern deck with an Standard deck?
Depends on the deck, the players and the standard. I have a bounce-mill deck that was standard legal at one point that can take on a lot of them...
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:58 PM   #38
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My local store just started playing Modern on Tuesdays everyone loves it but Im beginning to suspect we have magic powers.


One night we discuss how Wizards should reprint Goyf and other Modern staples in like nonstandard packs. A day or two later Modern Masters is announced...

This past Tuesday "I wish Wizards would just make Modern an FNM event" and boom...

I shall only use this power for good... or to see naked ladies...
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:07 PM   #39
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Ah pithing needle. Stops tarmogoyf dead in his tracks.

"It dies to removal" is not a viable argument. Otherwise I could just rebuttal the removal with "but your removal loses to Kira."



Depends on the deck, the players and the standard. I have a bounce-mill deck that was standard legal at one point that can take on a lot of them...
You realize that Pithing Needle doesn't affect Tarmogoyf, right?
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:13 PM   #40
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All this is gonna do is make the Modern Masters packs sell even faster :/
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:17 PM   #41
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Even in a FNM Modern event people can still bring their Tier 1 Type 2 deck to the battle... but how hard is to beat a Semi-Competitive Modern deck with an Standard deck?
If we were back at SOM-ISD standard I would tell you not too hard (Delver is insane and arguably better than the modern counterpart).

Sadly it's unlikely our store will pick it up. We've only been doing Standard.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:22 PM   #42
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Got to agree that Tarmagoyf really is a big deal and saying it doesn't belong in mono white decks and elves is a joke.

Then again I just watched GP Chicago where the top 2 decks were Tarmagoyf Jund. Well Spirit Jund is the name since Tarmagoyf is a given.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:37 PM   #43
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Got to agree that Tarmagoyf really is a big deal and saying it doesn't belong in mono white decks and elves is a joke.

Then again I just watched GP Chicago where the top 2 decks were Tarmagoyf Jund. Well Spirit Jund is the name since Tarmagoyf is a given.
Meh I'll go for Knight of the Reliquary over goyf any day. Gets larger than goyf could ever hope to be, and is in colors that can exploit that. Also, Path to Exile.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:52 PM   #44
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Meh I'll go for Knight of the Reliquary over goyf any day. Gets larger than goyf could ever hope to be, and is in colors that can exploit that. Also, Path to Exile.
Also costs three mana, and requires two specific colours, so you would expect it to be stronger (which it isn't all of the time). There is a reason Tarmogoyf slots into so many more decks.
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Also costs three mana, and requires two specific colours, so you would expect it to be stronger (which it isn't all of the time). There is a reason Tarmogoyf slots into so many more decks.
Oh I agree. But the point remains that if you don't have the $100 for a goyf, or whatever stupid level it hits soon, there's plenty of alternatives that are excellent.

That said I'm still going to try and get some goyfs because I want to convert my standard deck into something of a modern powerhouse.
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