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Old 11-29-2012, 11:55 PM   #31
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Ultra Pro has some of the worst quality sleeves I have ever had the misfortune of buying...I only used the m12 ones and the mirrodin ones no more than 10 times and they came apart. Pure garbage.
yuuuuuuuuup.

i love that some great art is being put on the sleeves these days, but ultra pro sleeves of this sort split so god damned easily. its ridiculous.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:28 AM   #32
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Very disappointed in the boxes and sleeves.
Same. Their choice to use the guildmages is underwhelming.
Would have liked to see something similar to the "Mana 3.0" series they released a year ago. Simple mana symbols are far more elegant, and less obnoxious than the mage/guild symbol design.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:37 AM   #33
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Do they generalize the pages of the binder, or is it likely we can see some blurry spoils?
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:54 AM   #34
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Do they generalize the pages of the binder, or is it likely we can see some blurry spoils?
Oddly enough, the cards are all from Lorwyn.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:02 AM   #35
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Same. Their choice to use the guildmages is underwhelming.
Would have liked to see something similar to the "Mana 3.0" series they released a year ago. Simple mana symbols are far more elegant, and less obnoxious than the mage/guild symbol design.
I was tempted to buy those when they launched because they were so simplistic and elegant. Then I remember how awful UltraPros are. That said, if guild logo sleeves were released, I would probably have to break down and get some.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:55 PM   #36
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implying I can see the backs of the cards in my hand.

and who doesn't orient their deck sideways these days? It's so much more natural to draw from.
Bring up whatever trivial idea you have, but there is a reason that 99% of cards sleeves are printed the way they are.

It would be interesting to print "upside down" sleeves after seeing some players almost obsessive compulsive like tendencies of keeping their board in order.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:07 AM   #37
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Ultra Pro has some of the worst quality sleeves I have ever had the misfortune of buying...I only used the m12 ones and the mirrodin ones no more than 10 times and they came apart. Pure garbage.
I use nothing but Ultra Pro sleeves, and I have to say I've had a very diffierent experience.

That said, when I've reached out to Ultra Pro on defective sleeves and taken the time to actually send them examples, both times I've been sent far more as a replacement. They seem to take QA seriously (thus the request for samples), and that puts them pretty high in my book for customer satisfaction.

Obviously, mileage may vary, but it might be possible you just hit a factory defect. I'd always recommend getting in touch with them.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:38 AM   #38
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God, I love that Godless Shrine and Breeding Pool art, especially on those playmats!

Sleeves and boxes suck, obviously... They REALLY should have some something like,

Dual Land : Playmat
Guild Emblem : Sleeves (and use the Limited Edition type of sleeves, not the cheapo ones!)
Guild Leader : Deck Box
and as a Bonus
Guildmage on te Divider in the deckbox.

Would have been wayy more awesome, but i'm happy with the shock-mats.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:03 PM   #39
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I really dislike the sleeves, I would love sleeves with the guilds symbols.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:50 PM   #40
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The material looks good. Grounds to a playmat replacement and a new deckbox. But I'm still sad that they didn't announce that they changed their sleeves with design, because they are by far the worst TCG sleeves that ever existed or something.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:28 PM   #41
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KMC sleeves are much better in my opinion.
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KMC sleeves are much better in my opinion.
I had poor experiences with the UltraPros. The rest of their lineup is just great. The boxes for Ravnica looked really really nice, and those ones are just awesome. The playmats are just prints of great arts, but I still love their material. But, they know that players do not fully appreciate their sleeves, and still make them with the same method. And there are good sleeves with designs on the back, what proves that this isn't impossible to be produced by them aswell.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:42 PM   #43
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and who doesn't orient their deck sideways these days? It's so much more natural to draw from.
I don't. I grab the bottom edge of the card when drawing from my deck. And I'm not the only person I know who does that. Not everyone draws cards the same way.

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Oddly enough, the cards are all from Lorwyn.
Is it sad that I can name all of those cards, based solely on their tiny, blurry art?

And I didn't even play during Lorwyn.
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:56 PM   #44
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Sleeves with pictures tend to come apart. Don't buy them.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:36 PM   #45
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That Godless Shrine Art is amazing!
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