Hunted Wumpus never seemed to be there late enough to justify the huge mana sink and benefit for my opponents. Yes, this is group hug, but I've got to win at least one game, right? Lorescale Coatl feels like it will be much more useful (and threatening). I felt the same about the cost of Skyward Eye Prophets. Too little effect too late. Replaced with Rubina Soulsinger, who has proved to be quite the little combat disruptor.
Sundial of the Infinite never was there when I needed it, too situational. Replaced with the ever-popular Archmage Ascension. The tutor factor is just bananas. I'm considering putting in Gilder Bairn for synergy.
Force Spike was an easy drop, as it had such a minor effect mid to late game. Also, countering isn't big in my meta. Added in the big old bomb of Overbeing of Myth. With the amount of consistent draw, this threatens to be a great use of Rite of Replication.
Minds Aglow was lame. Nobody would participate once the board had gotten scary. They felt free lands were more important than cards. Replaced with the completely selfish Invincible Hymn.
- If you're really (really!) playing group hug, then you have no wincons and are happy with being #2. There are a couple of ways you can still pull a win out with general damage, but the point of, and the fun of group hug is that you legitimately don't care if you win, which makes playing the deck a totally different experience. You can make the big plays, and splash stuff without having to worry about if it will survive a turn.
- You should reconsider the sheer amount of draw you have in that deck. I found that running a lot of draw in a hippo deck is probably the most effective multiplayer mill strategy available.
People will have plenty of cards. Think about other ways to ref the gameplay.
Thanks for the input! Looking over your deck, it actually looks like a lot of fun. There's a lot of cards I have or could obtain easily. Replace my bombs with Hunted creatures, etc.
Removed a lot of my threats for some tutoring and recursion. Put back in Hunted Wumpus, added the rediculous Darksteel Reactor. A major update focused more on a defensive strategy. As said before, I should be OK with coming in second.
***UNDER CONSTRUCTION, MORE TO COME***
I just wanted to get my list down on the thread so I could get it cleaned up. Will be adding content later.
-1 Oasis
-1 Hunted Wumpus
-1 Force Spike
-1 Minds Aglow
-1 Skyward Eye Prophets
-1 Sundial of the Infinite
+1 Hallowed Fountain
+1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
+1 Lorescale Coatl
+1 Rubinia Soulsinger
+1 Overbeing of Myth
+1 Archmage Ascension
+1 Invincible Hymn
-1 Otherworld Atlas
-1 Horn of Plenty
-1 Forced Fruition
-1 Mistveil Plains
+1 Font of Mythos
+1 Trade Secrets
+1 Mirror Entity
+1 Unifying Theory
+1 Island
-1 Telepathy
-1 Rubinia Soulsinger
-1 Overbeing of Myth
-1 Stormtide Leviathan
-1 Mirror Entity
-1 Reya Dawnbringer
-1 Lorescale Coatl
-1 Sylvan Scrying
-1 Invincible Hymn
-1 Dissipate
+1 Land Tax
+1 Sterling Grove
+1 Ley Line
+1 Sprouting Phytohydra
+1 Mnemonic Wall
+1 Hunted Wumpus
+1 Merchant Scroll
+1 Spell Burst
+1 Enlightened Tutor
+1 Eternity Vessel
+1 Darksteel Reactor
EDH: Active
G Ezuri's Elf Stompy! [Lowland Tribal] G
W Holier Than Thou [Eesha's Enchantments] W
WB Spiritus Sancti [Teysa Spirit Tokens] BW
RG Timmy, the Unbowed [Ruric Thar Fatties] GR
WUG Barney & Friends [Phelddagrif Group Hug] GUW
EDH: Retired
RW (b)EATS by Jor [Metalcraft Voltron] WR
RG Raidmother's Assault [Wort Goblin Tribal] GR
RG General Worts [Raidmother Token Storm] GR
WU Phantom Spaceman! [Grand Arbiter Taxation] UW
Edit: 01/04/2013
-1 Novijen, Heart of Progress
-1 Oasis
-1 Hunted Wumpus
-1 Force Spike
-1 Minds Aglow
-1 Skyward Eye Prophets
-1 Sundial of the Infinite
+1 Hallowed Fountain
+1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
+1 Lorescale Coatl
+1 Rubinia Soulsinger
+1 Overbeing of Myth
+1 Archmage Ascension
+1 Invincible Hymn
Oasis and Novijen, Heart of Progress never had an impact and I always regretted drawing them. Hallowed Fountain has curved in nicely. Mikokoro, Center of the Sea has just been wonderful. It's a Temple Bell that produces 1. Priceless.
Hunted Wumpus never seemed to be there late enough to justify the huge mana sink and benefit for my opponents. Yes, this is group hug, but I've got to win at least one game, right? Lorescale Coatl feels like it will be much more useful (and threatening). I felt the same about the cost of Skyward Eye Prophets. Too little effect too late. Replaced with Rubina Soulsinger, who has proved to be quite the little combat disruptor.
Sundial of the Infinite never was there when I needed it, too situational. Replaced with the ever-popular Archmage Ascension. The tutor factor is just bananas. I'm considering putting in Gilder Bairn for synergy.
Force Spike was an easy drop, as it had such a minor effect mid to late game. Also, countering isn't big in my meta. Added in the big old bomb of Overbeing of Myth. With the amount of consistent draw, this threatens to be a great use of Rite of Replication.
Minds Aglow was lame. Nobody would participate once the board had gotten scary. They felt free lands were more important than cards. Replaced with the completely selfish Invincible Hymn.
EDH: Active
G Ezuri's Elf Stompy! [Lowland Tribal] G
W Holier Than Thou [Eesha's Enchantments] W
WB Spiritus Sancti [Teysa Spirit Tokens] BW
RG Timmy, the Unbowed [Ruric Thar Fatties] GR
WUG Barney & Friends [Phelddagrif Group Hug] GUW
EDH: Retired
RW (b)EATS by Jor [Metalcraft Voltron] WR
RG Raidmother's Assault [Wort Goblin Tribal] GR
RG General Worts [Raidmother Token Storm] GR
WU Phantom Spaceman! [Grand Arbiter Taxation] UW
EDH: Active
G Ezuri's Elf Stompy! [Lowland Tribal] G
W Holier Than Thou [Eesha's Enchantments] W
WB Spiritus Sancti [Teysa Spirit Tokens] BW
RG Timmy, the Unbowed [Ruric Thar Fatties] GR
WUG Barney & Friends [Phelddagrif Group Hug] GUW
EDH: Retired
RW (b)EATS by Jor [Metalcraft Voltron] WR
RG Raidmother's Assault [Wort Goblin Tribal] GR
RG General Worts [Raidmother Token Storm] GR
WU Phantom Spaceman! [Grand Arbiter Taxation] UW
- If you're really (really!) playing group hug, then you have no wincons and are happy with being #2. There are a couple of ways you can still pull a win out with general damage, but the point of, and the fun of group hug is that you legitimately don't care if you win, which makes playing the deck a totally different experience. You can make the big plays, and splash stuff without having to worry about if it will survive a turn.
- You should reconsider the sheer amount of draw you have in that deck. I found that running a lot of draw in a hippo deck is probably the most effective multiplayer mill strategy available.
People will have plenty of cards. Think about other ways to ref the gameplay.
Have fun, and happy hippoing!
U Of the Moon and Tides U
R Ib Goblin Suicide! R
GW The Olive Garden GW
RWU Zedruu the Greathearted RWU
GWU Happy Hippo Hugs GWU
EDH: Active
G Ezuri's Elf Stompy! [Lowland Tribal] G
W Holier Than Thou [Eesha's Enchantments] W
WB Spiritus Sancti [Teysa Spirit Tokens] BW
RG Timmy, the Unbowed [Ruric Thar Fatties] GR
WUG Barney & Friends [Phelddagrif Group Hug] GUW
EDH: Retired
RW (b)EATS by Jor [Metalcraft Voltron] WR
RG Raidmother's Assault [Wort Goblin Tribal] GR
RG General Worts [Raidmother Token Storm] GR
WU Phantom Spaceman! [Grand Arbiter Taxation] UW
-1 Archmage Ascension
-1 Telepathy
-1 Rubinia Soulsinger
-1 Overbeing of Myth
-1 Stormtide Leviathan
-1 Mirror Entity
-1 Reya Dawnbringer
-1 Lorescale Coatl
-1 Sylvan Scrying
-1 Invincible Hymn
-1 Dissipate
+1 Land Tax
+1 Sterling Grove
+1 Ley Line
+1 Sprouting Phytohydra
+1 Mnemonic Wall
+1 Hunted Wumpus
+1 Merchant Scroll
+1 Spell Burst
+1 Enlightened Tutor
+1 Eternity Vessel
+1 Darksteel Reactor
Removed a lot of my threats for some tutoring and recursion. Put back in Hunted Wumpus, added the rediculous Darksteel Reactor. A major update focused more on a defensive strategy. As said before, I should be OK with coming in second.
EDH: Active
G Ezuri's Elf Stompy! [Lowland Tribal] G
W Holier Than Thou [Eesha's Enchantments] W
WB Spiritus Sancti [Teysa Spirit Tokens] BW
RG Timmy, the Unbowed [Ruric Thar Fatties] GR
WUG Barney & Friends [Phelddagrif Group Hug] GUW
EDH: Retired
RW (b)EATS by Jor [Metalcraft Voltron] WR
RG Raidmother's Assault [Wort Goblin Tribal] GR
RG General Worts [Raidmother Token Storm] GR
WU Phantom Spaceman! [Grand Arbiter Taxation] UW