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Old 12-24-2012, 11:12 PM   #31
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Based on Gruul's guild leader I'd bet money the unifying theme of Blood Rush is lands matter not pumping.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:12 PM   #32
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People going to MaRo's Tumblr and asking him for the Bloodrush template in 3... 2... 1...

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You can't use Bloodrush unless you have an attacking creature, so it can only be used at Instant speed. Well, if the rest of them work the same, that is.

Gruul are the least favorite guild of my favorite three-color combo, so I'm not sure whether I'm not excited about it because it's not for me or because it really is not that good. I'll have to ask my hardcore Gruul friend for his opinion. In a vacuum, this is a very Spike-y mechanic, since it makes you choose between two different effects, and choosing wrong might cost you the game. Too bad I'm not a Spike.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:12 PM   #33
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I'm guessing the basic template for Bloodrush is:

Bloodrush -- {mana}, Discard ~: Target attacking creature gets +X/+Y until end of turn (where X and Y are this card's power and toughness)

Maybe also granting abilities like trample or first strike.



Well, this card's effect has two elements: Pumping, and counting lands. Since the name "bloodrush" seems to be much more connected to pumping a creature than to counting lands, the basic template above seems like a reasonable deduction from this single example.
This. Flavorful mechanic, fits gruul nicely. And as others have mentioned we'll probably see a giant growth creature.

Actually it fits pretty well with Domri Rade. I mean now you can play almost only creatures but still have sol tricks up your sleeve.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:13 PM   #34
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This mechanic meshes perfectly with the Gruul decklist in Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013, which is almost entirely made up of creatures to attack with and pump spells to force through damage. Bloodrush lets a single card act in both roles.

Creatures that double as combat tricks seems very strong in Limited, and it meshes well with Evolve since this lets you run a higher creature density while still having "spells." rug aggro looks like it could definitely be a thing in Gatecrash limited, just from knowing these two keywords.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:13 PM   #35
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I don't know if this has been said, but I bet they are showing us the guild promos. The power levels are right in that sweet spot of not really being all that great outside of limited, but still exciting.
Yanno this is actually very possible. I wouldn't be suprised if this turned out to be legit, that said I think this card is really good as just a beater. The Bloodrush part could be a game winner but even if it's not he's still an efficient beater at any turn after 3.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:14 PM   #36
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As an ability word rather than a keyword, there's a lot of flexibility to Bloodrush and I'd be surprised if it just amounted to "Discard [CARDNAME]: target attacking creature gets +X/+Y where X is [CARDNAME]'s power and Y is [CARDNAME]'s toughness".

More likely it's "Discard [Cardname]: target [condition] creature gets [some ability [CARDNAME] has]", and on this particular card it amounts to a pump spell for an attacking creature because this card's shtick is its conditional power and toughness.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:14 PM   #37
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People going to MaRo's Tumblr and asking him for the Bloodrush template in 3... 2... 1...


You can't use Bloodrush unless you have an attacking creature, so it can only be used at Instant speed. Well, if the rest of them work the same, that is.

Gruul are the least favorite guild of my favorite three-color combo, so I'm not sure whether I'm not excited about it because it's not for me or because it really is not that good. I'll have to ask my hardcore Gruul friend for his opinion. In a vacuum, this is a very Spike-y mechanic, since it makes you choose between two different effects, and choosing wrong might cost you the game. Too bad I'm not a Spike.
As a Gruul player, whether it ends up being pump only or Lands Matter only doesn't matter, the idea I can pitch dead cards in hand for an effect is always a bonus and a resourceful way to use cards.

Especially if combo'd with ways to play the graveyard.

This card particularly doesn't excite me, but like most potential prerelease/intro pack spoilers it doesn't surprise me. I'll be looking for more interesting ways to implement the mechanic.
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I'd wager it's:
Bloodrush-{cost}, Discard ~: Target attacking creature gets * until EOT.

For instance, a doublestrike critter with Bloodrush could give target attacking creature Doublestrike. There's no restriction on what it can do, but it will generally mirror the card you're discarding. This opens it up, design-wise, for interesting spells with it and effects like -2/-2 to target attacking creature.
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Based on Gruul's guild leader I'd bet money the unifying theme of Blood Rush is lands matter not pumping.
"Bloodrush" is an awful name for a "lands matter" mechanic. Borborygmos Enraged connects to this mechanic by letting your lands act as burn to complement your creatures that are also pump spells.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:15 PM   #40
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I can see this rare being the end of many limited stalemates in an all out swing, pumping the unblocked attacker for the finish, or just being an ever growing bomb.
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I'd wager it's:
Bloodrush-{cost}, Discard ~: Target attacking creature gets * until EOT.

For instance, a doublestrike critter with Bloodrush could give target attacking creature Doublestrike. There's no restriction on what it can do, but it will generally mirror the card you're discarding. This opens it up, design-wise, for interesting spells with it and effects like -2/-2 to target attacking creature.
That would be amazing, and potentially revisitable (IE: Black Vampires that do such things fits flavorfully and mechanically)
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:16 PM   #42
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That makes no sense for an ability word.
Metalcraft is based on how many Artifacts you have, why can't Bloodrush be based on how many lands?
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:17 PM   #43
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Not sure how great the card is for constructed, really no idea. But how can you not love the mechanic?!? Though I'm really not sure what Bloodrush does... Is it loosely based on the number of lands you have? Is it always a +X/+X pump or different? The fact that there isn't reminder text makes me unsure.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:19 PM   #44
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Metalcraft is based on how many Artifacts you have, why can't Bloodrush be based on how many lands?
Because artifacts are metal, but lands are not blood...
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That's cute... glad they went with rg on the right day!
Not sure how I feel about Bloodrush.
Then again, I'm not a player,
so I'll let others figure out how good it is.
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