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Old 12-31-2012, 11:19 PM   #31
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both amazing cards. hoping for an updated Teysa too for edh. the council seems pretty strong in standard i wouldnt doubt if it saw play. the clone guy is awesome too. nothing really new we have seen the art is awesome and looks delicious to build around

wait edit that, the clone guy becomes a copy when the creature goes into the grave from anywhere
so this means

play this guy
do some mulching
oh did i just mulch in a worldspine wurm?
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When Worldspine Wurm is put into a graveyard from anywhere, shuffle it into its owner's library.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:19 PM   #32
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wait edit that, the clone guy becomes a copy when the creature goes into the grave from anywhere
so this means

play this guy
do some mulching
oh did i just mulch in a worldspine wurm?
profit
opponent's graveyard, unfortunately.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:20 PM   #33
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Obzedat... You know, when the person who writes the article explicitly says its awfully powerful... I think he MIGHT be right. Comparing these to Borbogorymos and Aurelia and i think Boros is going to plain suck this time...
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:21 PM   #34
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Just curious. How did you find the picture for Lazav with the full text. Everything below hexproof is blurred for me.
You had to read the article and once you got all the way through it sent you back to a different part you had to click to reveal.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:21 PM   #35
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Obzedat... You know, when the person who writes the article explicitly says its awfully powerful... I think he MIGHT be right. Comparing these to Borbogorymos and Aurelia and i think Boros is going to plain suck this time...
"Fun fact about Obzedat: I designed him—but I almost didn't bother suggesting him. In the hole-filling exercise where we submitted ideas for what the new Ghost Council could do, I very nearly deleted this design from my email because I thought it looked so absurdly powerful that it would seem like I had no idea how to balance cards."

His gut feeling was correct. At least..at least it can be chumped?
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:21 PM   #36
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Damn, I love all three of these cards. Obzedat and Lazav both look solid, but Obzedat looks like a foundation card for a deck. Four point life swing each turn? Sign me up!

Lazav sounds fun if you mill your opponent
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Note that you can "copy" key Legendary creatures with Lazav without Legend Rule risk. Pretty neat.
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You can't even legend rule Ghost Dad to death. Not easily.
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Also, it's a shame there aren't any pandemonium effects in standard currently. I would be riding w/b/r control all the way then.
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It kind of overshadows the Extort mechanic a bit, the fact you can get just get 4 freaking instances by your next turn without even playing any additional spells.
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Note that you can "copy" Legendary creatures with Lazav, as his name doesn't change for the Legendary rule. Pretty neat.
So we can have say 2 trostanis out on the field then? is that how it works? Thats pretty awesome. This guy truly is nuts
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:24 PM   #42
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Obzedat Should have had Flying to make it even better. A Spirit that doesn't fly? Even Though I am now Working on my Esper control deck with him in it. Maybe an EDH deck also.
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Also, it's a shame there aren't any pandemonium effects in standard currently. I would be riding w/b/r control all the way then.
I also which garruks packleader wasn't fighting for the same CMC spot because that would turn our ghost council hear into a nice card engine
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K, I'm clearly missing something. How can you not? Clone and Evil Twin would both kill him; he retains his name when he copies.
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So we can have say 2 trostanis out on the field then? is that how it works? Thats pretty awesome. This guy truly is nuts
If you have ggwwuubb lying around and the time to play 2 4 drops that don't do anything right away, yes.
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