Here, I will be posting my Obzedat list. As I learn more and more about my favorite deck style in Magic these days, I will update this list. For now, enjoy this list, yes?
It's not just a thrown together list, I have been waiting for an Orzhov Stax commander for a long time, and I finally got it. I have been dreaming of this day for a while, and I can't wait to make this list even better.
Please, give me any feedback you would like, I need it obviously
You've gotta try out Humility. I know you want to use Obzedat, which you still could depending on the timing of Humility, but the card is a vital piece to BW stax I feel. It hurts too many decks to not abuse here. With Sorin 2.0 or Elspeth you can still use your tokens to great effect as well. I would at least consider testing it out.
I'm in the process of remaking my Teysa deck and I think she's going to be replaced by one of the Ghost Councils. I don't want to run combo and a defensive enchantment deck seems the way to go.
So tell me, how does this list win 4-6 player games? Why no offensive enchants for the general and more wrath effects for what you can't handle?
Teysa is my favorite = But I see why you would change, all she does is combo!
Well, I'm used to 3-4 man, so for larger games I would probably include another wrath effect or two. for the offensive enchantments, well, I feel it's more personal preference: I like knowing that I am completely untouchable, and I like staying that way. If you need a faster win, then go for it, I'm just not sure how that works is all. What kind of enchantments do you mean?
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Please keep in mind that some of this is a part of my stack of cards in line for consideration for Ghost Council v.1.0. I'm still debating on who to use.
I feel as though you are dismissing humility too fast. It literally cripples most other decks, and people aim to kill it asap. You wont always be able to get GC out, and humility will most likely be destroyed long before you do. Give it a shot id say, at the least to shut me up :).
Humility is an amazingly powerful card. It is much like back to basics or blood moon in that it will completely shut down a large number of decks and reduce many others to a fraction of their power.
It is not a fun card, however. You will find that no one enjoys playing against it and it will make you a large number of enemies. They will remember you in later games and just the possibility of it being in your deck will make you the archenemy. If you want the most competitive deck possible it is an auto include. If you want to have fun it is an auto disclude.
I am going to echo Ted, I would consider running Contamination in a stax deck with black as long as it was dual color like this. I think the possibility of locking out your opponent is just what stax loves to do. Having tried it in a Golgari list before, if your meta isn't just loaded with mana rocks, your opponents decks will be struggling with it online. Another card to consider under this would be Infernal Darkness, while a little harder to upkeep depending on your boardstate.
Nice build so far, Zephy! I'm not sure if you considered it, but Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would work wonders with your Mana Web. It would essentially force your opponents to use all of their mana at once (kind of like a one-sided War's Toll). Then again, if you know there's an abundance of the aforementioned Legendary Land in your meta, you could let your opponents play their copy and let them complete the combo for you.
I just built an Obzedat EDH and found that cards such as Exquisite Blood, Rhox Faithmender, and Terminus work wonders. Terminus is a great card to use in an Obzedat EDH, because it can neutralize all other generals in play whenever you want (logically while Ghost Council is exiled). Ajani's Pridemate is essential, because it stacks 1/1 counters each time you bring in your general. With extort and other life-gain effects, it can become a heavy hitter fast.
It's not just a thrown together list, I have been waiting for an Orzhov Stax commander for a long time, and I finally got it. I have been dreaming of this day for a while, and I can't wait to make this list even better.
Please, give me any feedback you would like, I need it obviously
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
Artifacts
1 Anvil of Bogardan
1 Barbed Wire
1 Charcoal Diamond
1 Coalition Relic
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Fellwar Stone
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Grim Monolith
1 Helm of Obedience
1 Lotus Bloom
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Web
1 Marble Diamond
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Portcullis
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Scrabbling Claws
1 Scroll Rack
1 Sculpting Steel
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Smokestack
1 Sol Ring
1 Tangle Wire
1 Trading Post
1 Worn Powerstone
1 Academy Rector
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Sun Titan
Enchantments
1 Aura of Silence
1 Bitterblossom
1 Chains of Mephistopheles
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Land Tax
1 Leyline of the Void
1 Moat
1 Nether Void
1 No Mercy
1 Oblivion Ring
1 The Abyss
Instants
1 Disenchant
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Path to Exile
1 Return to Dust
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Vampiric Tutor
Lands
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Godless Shrine
1 Marsh Flats
1 Maze of Ith
1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
1 Petrified Field
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scrubland
10 Snow-Covered Plains
10 Snow-Covered Swamp
1 Strip Mine
1 Temple of the False God
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Liliana Vess
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Sorcery
1 Ambition's Cost
1 Ancient Craving
1 Armageddon
1 Death Cloud
1 Decree of Pain
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Grim Tutor
1 Pox
1 Replenish
1 Smallpox
1 Wrath of God
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Sphere of Safety probably. No Mercy as well. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad certainly.
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You've gotta try out Humility. I know you want to use Obzedat, which you still could depending on the timing of Humility, but the card is a vital piece to BW stax I feel. It hurts too many decks to not abuse here. With Sorin 2.0 or Elspeth you can still use your tokens to great effect as well. I would at least consider testing it out.
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So tell me, how does this list win 4-6 player games? Why no offensive enchants for the general and more wrath effects for what you can't handle?
Well, I'm used to 3-4 man, so for larger games I would probably include another wrath effect or two. for the offensive enchantments, well, I feel it's more personal preference: I like knowing that I am completely untouchable, and I like staying that way. If you need a faster win, then go for it, I'm just not sure how that works is all. What kind of enchantments do you mean?
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Vindicate
Humility (already mentioned, but since you have so many tokens it's a shoe in)
Defense grid (You're already playing nether void and what a good job this card does keeping blue mages from interacting with you)
The Abyss
Ravages of war
Armageddon
Catastrophe
Damnation
Winter Orb
some lands too:
Volrath's stronghold
Ancient Tomb
City of Traitors
just some quick thoughts, but this could add a nice backbone to your deck. good luck
I will consider the grid and vindicate.
Armageddon is already in the list.
the rest I'l ltake a look at =)
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Dauthi Embrace
True Conviction
Day of Destiny if youre only aiming for general dmg.
Death Match makes a great political card and let's others thin the table for you.
Demonic Rising Works great while GC is flying solo.
Homicidal Seclusion this as well.
Spreading Plague another option for the solo GC.
And here's some other defensive cards to consider:
Karmic Justice
Porphyry Nodes
Rune-Tail's Essence
Season of the Witch works well with ghostly prison and the likes.
Please keep in mind that some of this is a part of my stack of cards in line for consideration for Ghost Council v.1.0. I'm still debating on who to use.
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EDH Math
EDH Decks:
Ghost Council: The Magic Mafia of Orzhova
BB Drana: Down with the Sickness
Rasputin: Reality is Broken
Vish Kal Bleeder: Bloody Kisses
Teysa, Orzhov Dominatrix
Stonebrow: Breaking Things
BWR Kaalia Punisher: Heaven's on Fire
Grimgrin: Dead Reckoning
Alright, expect a list change within the next few days. Yay updating all of my lists!
Do you guys have any suggestions for cards to pull out, by the way? It's..helpful.
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It is not a fun card, however. You will find that no one enjoys playing against it and it will make you a large number of enemies. They will remember you in later games and just the possibility of it being in your deck will make you the archenemy. If you want the most competitive deck possible it is an auto include. If you want to have fun it is an auto disclude.
So again, any suggestions for cards to take out?
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I am going to echo Ted, I would consider running Contamination in a stax deck with black as long as it was dual color like this. I think the possibility of locking out your opponent is just what stax loves to do. Having tried it in a Golgari list before, if your meta isn't just loaded with mana rocks, your opponents decks will be struggling with it online. Another card to consider under this would be Infernal Darkness, while a little harder to upkeep depending on your boardstate.
[Primer] WUB Dromar, the Banisher Stax [SOON TO BE OLORO]
Humility stil feels super risky, but darn it it is too good to not put into a stax deck. Will be updating this list tomorrow =)
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