The worst Internet regulation bill since SOPA/PIPA has reared it's ugly head once again and by no surprise it was the House Republicans who decided to bring it back as a piece a legislation in hopes of getting it passed through Congress. Couldn't have picked a worse time considering the Sequester coming up on March 1st.
Once again it's up to us to spread the word and stop CISPA from becoming the law of the land in the United States from destroying the Internet. Last year Congress tried to pass CISPA into law during the 2012 Election Primaries around the same time and went to great lengths to pass it behind closed doors even internationally via treaty which ultimately failed.
Here's an Official White House.gov Petition against this:
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
Seeing as how they claim the bill hasn't changed since it was brought up last time, and there hasn't been any elections or changed seats in Congress, is there any reason to expect it to pass this time when it failed before?
People submit doomed bills all the time. Wasting time and taxpayer money is a time honored tradition amoung politicians
Yeah like that bill House Democrat Charles Rangel brought back as a piece of legislation to reinstate the Draft in the United States when we don't even have the money to afford it under the risk of cutting entitlements on military spending. I've heard of the Draft before when it was in effect during WWII and from my understanding of it, it seemed unconstitutional because it forced young adults against their will to join the military but at that point in time it was for a good cause and society was way different then than it is right now.
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"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
If you have to force people to fight in a war, you shouldn't be fighting that war. That is why the draft is awful.
Of course, the draft still pretty much exists, it's just cleverly called 'Selective Service' or whatever now. And the draft has definitely happened in the past(WW2 etc, as mentioned).
I don't see how CISPA can pass now. It failed miserably before, and nothing appears to have changed about the bill. Just another example of how 98% of our politicians are completely useless. They put forth bills like this because their corporate masters tell them to.
Yeah like that bill House Democrat Charles Rangel brought back as a piece of legislation to reinstate the Draft in the United States when we don't even have the money to afford it under the risk of cutting entitlements on military spending. I've heard of the Draft before when it was in effect during WWII and from my understanding of it, it seemed unconstitutional because it forced young adults against their will to join the military but at that point in time it was for a good cause and society was way different then than it is right now.
Yes, they do it as a "moral crusade." Rengel's main motive is to equalize the system, since "back in the day" it brought people from different classes together and made people pay attention to wars.
I tend to agree, but he fails in two regards:
1. Women aren't in the draft
2. Can't draft old people
My personal opinion is they opened up the draft to be highly selective for the reconstruction phase during Iraq and Afghanistan by drafting a few corporate titans, academics, and ect. to have a "good systems administration" force I'd support the draft.
In its current incarnation it is antiquated, and does not bring powerful men and women into places where they can get shot like young men and have the potential to have life long curses like PTSD. I'm not willing evil on people, but speaking as someone who wanted to serve and was unable to I find it an abrogation of personal responsibility to send only young men to war that have no idea how to do reconstruction work into a place where they can't even speak the language. It was stupid in WWII, and it's stupid now. The draft was nice in that it was pure accident got the Navaho code talkers and the Double VV campaign that helped to build the civil rights movement, whereas after Vietnam we got marijuana thrill runners who sold marijuana and didn't hurt anyone in the drug trade. So really it comes down to pure "luck," whereas the best team, according even to Army research, is one that is multigenerational and equal in terms of treatment for rank to allow ideas to flow.
If we're going to "make everyone sacrifice" for war, then it needs to be everybody in the capacity that they can serve. Even if that means that person has to be on call 24/7 to give counsel to some guy on foreign relations at 3 AM talking on the computer over webcam.
Rengel fought in the Korean War, but lacks the imagination for his policy to be implemented. He uses it as a social justice to "remind people of back in the day," there's not going to be a Double V campaign to held inner city black youth or that white farm boy youths out in BFE so they all become BFFs.
As for this bill, in the current climate there's no way this will pass. There's a lot of junk bills that get knocked around, and the next month is going to be consumed by the elusive "Grand Bargain." Or as I prefer, the "Grand Kick in the Pants to a generation with an entitlement mentality."
Let's try to stay on topic shall we? The biggest challenge the U.S. Government faces with CISPA is whether or not it's not as draconian as SOPA/PIPA was to where it doesn't infringe upon the privacy of every U.S. citizen cause it would violate the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution If it is that draconian. If the Government goes about this the wrong way they could face a serious backlash from not just the American people but also pro-Net Neutrality companies like Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Wikipedia among other Internet companies as well. I know the Government is trying to pass CISPA in order to protect our country against cyber-attacks from foreign countries like China and possibly Iran, it's just that they need to be very careful about this.
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"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
CISPA is the united nations purposed treaty isn't it? where as SOPA and PIPA were home grown legislation?
i'm having a hard time keeping my "threats to the internet" in order...
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Let's try to stay on topic shall we? The biggest challenge the U.S. Government faces with CISPA is whether or not it's not as draconian as SOPA/PIPA was to where it doesn't infringe upon the privacy of every U.S. citizen cause it would violate the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution If it is that draconian. If the Government goes about this the wrong way they could face a serious backlash from not just the American people but also pro-Net Neutrality companies like Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Wikipedia among other Internet companies as well. I know the Government is trying to pass CISPA in order to protect our country against cyber-attacks from foreign countries like China and possibly Iran, it's just that they need to be very careful about this.
CISPA was submitted before and failed to clear the house. It's been submitted again to the same people who failed to pass it before. Obama has clearly stated he opposes the legislation and if by some miracle it did clear Congress he would almost certainly veto it.
I think that's a pretty far cry from "I know the Government is trying to pass CISPA"
It's another "moral crusade" bill that just wastes taxpayer money and politicians time. Like those bills trying to mandate English as the national language. It's just a farce. A Missouri Rep. filed a bill that would make it a felony for lawmakers to merely file legislation that would at all restrict gun rights. It's just cheap pandering, like when the Rock give the crowd the Peoples Elbow. It's pointless, and ridiculous, but the crowd it's aimed for eats it up.
You should be mad at politicians wasting their time and your $$ on it, not over the bill itself. You know why CISPA got resubmitted? So next election cycle the politicians who signed it can go to the media companies and say "See, I tried to get CISPA passed, I'm on your side, thank you very much for your campaign contribution"
That's all politics is these days. It has cost so much $$ to win an election, that our elected officials are completely and utterly beholden to the people who finance their campaigns. That's why GE and Google pay no taxes, that's why Warren Buffet and Mitt Romney pay lower tax rates than their housekeepers, that's why executives at Goldman Sachs are cashing mutli million dollar bonuses instead of sitting in a jail cell. Because elections have gotten so expensive that the US Government has become a bought and sold system.
Obama and Romney and their SuperPAC's spent 2 BILLION dollars in their campain. No one can afford that without massively financed donors. And just like any loan shark knows, once you lend someone money, they are in your pocket.
The worst Internet regulation bill since SOPA/PIPA has reared it's ugly head once again and by no surprise it was the House Republicans who decided to bring it back as a piece a legislation in hopes of getting it passed through Congress. Couldn't have picked a worse time considering the Sequester coming up on March 1st.
Once again it's up to us to spread the word and stop CISPA from becoming the law of the land in the United States from destroying the Internet. Last year Congress tried to pass CISPA into law during the 2012 Election Primaries around the same time and went to great lengths to pass it behind closed doors even internationally via treaty which ultimately failed.
Here's an Official White House.gov Petition against this:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-cispa-cyber-intelligence-sharing-and-protection-act/19sQhBpy
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
People submit doomed bills all the time. Wasting time and taxpayer money is a time honored tradition amoung politicians
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
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Of course, the draft still pretty much exists, it's just cleverly called 'Selective Service' or whatever now. And the draft has definitely happened in the past(WW2 etc, as mentioned).
I don't see how CISPA can pass now. It failed miserably before, and nothing appears to have changed about the bill. Just another example of how 98% of our politicians are completely useless. They put forth bills like this because their corporate masters tell them to.
Yes, they do it as a "moral crusade." Rengel's main motive is to equalize the system, since "back in the day" it brought people from different classes together and made people pay attention to wars.
I tend to agree, but he fails in two regards:
1. Women aren't in the draft
2. Can't draft old people
My personal opinion is they opened up the draft to be highly selective for the reconstruction phase during Iraq and Afghanistan by drafting a few corporate titans, academics, and ect. to have a "good systems administration" force I'd support the draft.
In its current incarnation it is antiquated, and does not bring powerful men and women into places where they can get shot like young men and have the potential to have life long curses like PTSD. I'm not willing evil on people, but speaking as someone who wanted to serve and was unable to I find it an abrogation of personal responsibility to send only young men to war that have no idea how to do reconstruction work into a place where they can't even speak the language. It was stupid in WWII, and it's stupid now. The draft was nice in that it was pure accident got the Navaho code talkers and the Double VV campaign that helped to build the civil rights movement, whereas after Vietnam we got marijuana thrill runners who sold marijuana and didn't hurt anyone in the drug trade. So really it comes down to pure "luck," whereas the best team, according even to Army research, is one that is multigenerational and equal in terms of treatment for rank to allow ideas to flow.
If we're going to "make everyone sacrifice" for war, then it needs to be everybody in the capacity that they can serve. Even if that means that person has to be on call 24/7 to give counsel to some guy on foreign relations at 3 AM talking on the computer over webcam.
Rengel fought in the Korean War, but lacks the imagination for his policy to be implemented. He uses it as a social justice to "remind people of back in the day," there's not going to be a Double V campaign to held inner city black youth or that white farm boy youths out in BFE so they all become BFFs.
As for this bill, in the current climate there's no way this will pass. There's a lot of junk bills that get knocked around, and the next month is going to be consumed by the elusive "Grand Bargain." Or as I prefer, the "Grand Kick in the Pants to a generation with an entitlement mentality."
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"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
i'm having a hard time keeping my "threats to the internet" in order...
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CISPA was submitted before and failed to clear the house. It's been submitted again to the same people who failed to pass it before. Obama has clearly stated he opposes the legislation and if by some miracle it did clear Congress he would almost certainly veto it.
I think that's a pretty far cry from "I know the Government is trying to pass CISPA"
It's another "moral crusade" bill that just wastes taxpayer money and politicians time. Like those bills trying to mandate English as the national language. It's just a farce. A Missouri Rep. filed a bill that would make it a felony for lawmakers to merely file legislation that would at all restrict gun rights. It's just cheap pandering, like when the Rock give the crowd the Peoples Elbow. It's pointless, and ridiculous, but the crowd it's aimed for eats it up.
You should be mad at politicians wasting their time and your $$ on it, not over the bill itself. You know why CISPA got resubmitted? So next election cycle the politicians who signed it can go to the media companies and say "See, I tried to get CISPA passed, I'm on your side, thank you very much for your campaign contribution"
That's all politics is these days. It has cost so much $$ to win an election, that our elected officials are completely and utterly beholden to the people who finance their campaigns. That's why GE and Google pay no taxes, that's why Warren Buffet and Mitt Romney pay lower tax rates than their housekeepers, that's why executives at Goldman Sachs are cashing mutli million dollar bonuses instead of sitting in a jail cell. Because elections have gotten so expensive that the US Government has become a bought and sold system.
Obama and Romney and their SuperPAC's spent 2 BILLION dollars in their campain. No one can afford that without massively financed donors. And just like any loan shark knows, once you lend someone money, they are in your pocket.