After reading some Rasputin Dreamweaver EDH's on this site and others I thought I would put my decklist here and see if first it would work agaisnt other top rated competive multiplayer EDH's and second if there could be any improvents to the flicker effects and overall effectivness to the deck.
Here the deck list
after a long time of playing this deck I thought I would update it here. Its a great deck to play and I am still trying to improve it. Things I am looking out for is to improve its speed so I can do more combos early. So if you got any ideas let me know
This deck looks pretty sweet. How could I not like a deck so similar to mine lol? I wish I had a Phyrexian Altar for my build, Ashnod's is just more colorless mana and Raspy handles that already. I don't think you should have any problems going up against the more powerful deck as long as you can stabilize and start combos. The early game is always key for a more combo-control oriented deck. Let us know how it plays.
I had a diffrent version of this deck (Ran a lot of counter spells) it was good till about half way through the game and then it started to ran out of steam.
After going through all the forums yours is the one that really stood out and was hoping you would see this tbh lol.
I drew this up using your's as a base as i really liked the play style you set out. The question I have is do you think I need more search so I can bring up my combo's?
Also im still undecided what would help me more Tezzeret or the Imposter.
Once I have done a few play tests and see how the deck runs over a few weeks I will rework the first post in more detail with the deck and also credit going to you, just really wanted to get the people who played this kind of deck opionions and any improvements before Friday pops up again.
I had a diffrent version of this deck (Ran a lot of counter spells) it was good till about half way through the game and then it started to ran out of steam.
After going through all the forums yours is the one that really stood out and was hoping you would see this tbh lol.
I drew this up using your's as a base as i really liked the play style you set out. The question I have is do you think I need more search so I can bring up my combo's?
Also im still undecided what would help me more Tezzeret or the Imposter.
Once I have done a few play tests and see how the deck runs over a few weeks I will rework the first post in more detail with the deck and also credit going to you, just really wanted to get the people who played this kind of deck opionions and any improvements before Friday pops up again.
I run a fair amount of search and I like it. My main sources are Stoneforge Mystic and Tezzeret. Stoneforge grabs my Nim Deathmantle and my Skullclamp both of which I love. Too much search can dilute a deck though so I only run the two tutors.
Tezzeret is a beast and I would never cut him. I recently cut Sakashima for Glen Elendra Archmage. Untapping with Tezzeret can be lethal in my build because I can -2 and get Spawning Pit and next turn -2 for Nim Deathmantle. This makes infinite colorless mana if I have Rasputin out and infinite triggers on any other creature that I have in play. Plus you don't even have to use Tezzy to get combos, he can just grab artifact lands or something like Chromatic Lantern if you need the fixing.
I have updated the deck after a few play tests on monday agaisnt a few match ups what I found out i need more enchanment removal you guys have any ideas on what I can run and what to take out for it?
Also have a look at the deck list now, have i butched it to much so it won't run smoothly?
Allay and Dismantling Blow are pretty good. White has several ETB creatures which destroy enchantments and can be recurred with Sun Titan too. List looks quite tight though, so hard to say what to cut!
Abolish do me wonder many times since I can trick my opponent to play his game ending enchantment and then bam! It is also good with diabolic Contamination.
I'm a draw fanatic but do you have enough draw engine?
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I added Planar Portal recently and its AMAZING. U/W decks love to tutor every turn!
I use Treasure Mage to help me find it more often. I'm thinking about adding Fabricate too since I love Conjurer's Closet as well.
How are you not running Vanish into Memory? It was custom made for 'Putin decks. Draw 4, discard 1, reset dream counters!!
Speaking of blinking 'Putin, you're really light on blink effects. I only counted 7 out of 100 cards (I run 17 myself). Do you have issues with this or do you always go straight for the Deathmantle win?
Here are a few VIPs I love to see every game that you don't run.
The Angel is a instant speed Plague Wind for me. Same with the Whelk being a counter when needed. You do run a lot less blink than me so I can see you not using them. I just wanted to note how awesome they are in my deck.
Throw a Supreme Verdict in there over some spot removal, this is a multiplayer format.
I found my Sun Titan wasn't always hitting cards in the grave. I added these to make him more useful:
I added Planar Portal recently and its AMAZING. / decks love to tutor every turn!
I use Treasure Mage to help me find it more often. I'm thinking about adding Fabricate too since I love Conjurer's Closet as well.
How are you not running Vanish into Memory? It was custom made for 'Putin decks. Draw 4, discard 1, reset dream counters!!
Speaking of blinking 'Putin, you're really light on blink effects. I only counted 7 out of 100 cards (I run 17 myself). Do you have issues with this or do you always go straight for the Deathmantle win?
Here are a few VIPs I love to see every game that you don't run.
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Storm Herd
1 Draining Whelk
The Angel is a instant speed Plague Wind for me. Same with the Whelk being a counter when needed. You do run a lot less blink than me so I can see you not using them. I just wanted to note how awesome they are in my deck.
Throw a Supreme Verdict in there over some spot removal, this is a multiplayer format.
I will have to look into the Planar Portal tutor every turn in win! Also totaly forgot about sunburst angel and will look into playing those. I am trying to get my hands on a Vanish into Memory I thought I had one and I cannot find one anywhere, but as soon as I find one it is going into the deck.
Another card that I want to go in the deck asap is Mnemonic Wall.
Rune Priest of Thrune yes I will put him in a trial him now things to take out of the deck is going to be the hard part. lol will be playing some games tongiht so will come back with more info
I used to be really heavy on the blink as well. I think there is a happy medium between blinking and targets to blink. Find what works for you and let us know how it goes. I wouldn't mind maybe one or two more blink engines, but my list feels so tight at the moment.
So after playing 5 games tonight I found that I need more draw engine so I got myself a Consecrated Sphinx I am also looking for another draw engine and was thinking of Azure Mage What do you guys think? Also what do you think I should take out. I am thinking Triskellion.
Run down of the games 1st was a 1v1 won with me milling him 53 cards with Sands and him giving up 2nd game I was mana screwed and he beat me down with large pointy sticks.
3rd game was multi very quick game as the green/white play had a very good starting hand and token swamed us all. 2nd multi game was drawn out and here where I was lacking card power to do any real game changers and lack but was left alone for most of it till i was left to last then i luckly drew into an inkmonth and had a jita with 8 counters on it for the infect win. 3rd multi was drawn out again and once again found i was lacking in draw to play any of my combos or to do anything with any real plays.
Don't forget about Recurring Insight that card is pretty awesome. It should draw a fair amount of cards. Also, it can be reused pretty easily with Archaeomancer and cards like it.
Yeah, Rasputin decks are great at "durdling". Its why I added Darksteel and Blightsteel Colossus as well as Storm Herd. I needed more things to do with the massive mana Rasputin gives.
I'd run Eldrazi titans as well but my Jhoira deck already does that.
I second Recurring Insight, its always been good for me.
Propaganda is another card I run in every blue deck. We also get Ghostly Prison with white. They help me out early game, making the aggresive decks choose someone else to attack. Great against infinite token decks also.
So after playing 5 games tonight I found that I need more draw engine so I got myself a Consecrated Sphinx I am also looking for another draw engine and was thinking of Azure Mage What do you guys think? Also what do you think I should take out. I am thinking Triskellion.
Run down of the games 1st was a 1v1 won with me milling him 53 cards with Sands and him giving up 2nd game I was mana screwed and he beat me down with large pointy sticks.
3rd game was multi very quick game as the green/white play had a very good starting hand and token swamed us all. 2nd multi game was drawn out and here where I was lacking card power to do any real game changers and lack but was left alone for most of it till i was left to last then i luckly drew into an inkmonth and had a jita with 8 counters on it for the infect win. 3rd multi was drawn out again and once again found i was lacking in draw to play any of my combos or to do anything with any real plays.
Beware the theft effect if you do run Consecrated Sphinx.
Azure Mage is a good mana dumping, especially in your case since you have huge amount of instant. May I suggest Azami, Lady of Scroll? She is one of the best draw engine in this kind of deck because a lot of good creature you run are wizard.
Speaking of blinking 'Putin, you're really light on blink effects. I only counted 7 out of 100 cards (I run 17 myself). Do you have issues with this or do you always go straight for the Deathmantle win?
Holy penguin of God! (Where does this come from?) 17!?
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Ok testing atm so -1 Blasting Station -1Gilded Lotus -Triskelion+1 planer portal +1 sunblast angel +1 drake that comes into play untap 5 lands forgot the name but will update the deck list if these work. What i am having trouble with is what to take out as things are running very tight expeshly when i get myself aMnemonic Wall and Vanish to memory. So far I won most of my games by going infinit and making them draw to death. Want to be able to win some faster way but still looking into it. Any ideas what could be taken out?
If your plan is a quick win, I'd take out the utility cards that are not a part of the plan. Just take out the "goodstuff" and make the deck more focused.
ok I am also looking at putting in lavinia of the tenth looking at putting in some more ramp but I don't know what I should take out any got any ideas?
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After reading some Rasputin Dreamweaver EDH's on this site and others I thought I would put my decklist here and see if first it would work agaisnt other top rated competive multiplayer EDH's and second if there could be any improvents to the flicker effects and overall effectivness to the deck.
Here the deck list
1x Raputin Dreamweaver
Artifacts
1x Phyrexian Altar
1x Blasting Station
1x Conjurer's Closet
1x Crystal Shard
1x Expedition Map
1x Mimic Vat
1x Nim Deathmantle
1x Skullclamp
1x Sol Ring
1x Sands of Delirium
1x Ashnod's Altar
1x motarpod
Creatures
1x Angel of Serenity
1x Archaeomancer
1x Deadeye Navigator
1x Duplicant
1x Glen Elendra Archmage
1x Muldrifter
1x Karmic Guide
1x Phyrexian Metamorph
1x Restoration Angel
1x Reveillark
1x Sea Gate Oracle
1x Sphinx of Uthunn
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Palinchron
1x Sun Titan
1x Venser, Shaper Savant
1x Gilded Drake
1x Mistweadow Witch
1x Weathered Wayfarer
1x Snapcaster Mage
1x Mnemonic Wall
1x Peregrine Drake
1x stoneforge mystic
1x consecrated Sphinx
1x Diluvian Primordial
1x Aura of Silence
1x Leyline of Anticipation
Instant/Sorcery
1x Blue sun Zennith
1x Wrath of God
1x Cyriptic Command
1x Capsize
1x Ghostway
1x Ghostly Flicker
1x Stroke of Genius
1x Sphinx's Revelation
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Terminus
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Rite of Replication
1x Path to Exile
1x Vanish into Memory
1x Return to Dust
1x Akroma's Vengeance
1x Fabicate
1x time warp
Planeswalkers
1x Tezzeret the Seeker
1x Venser, the Sojourner
1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Lands
1x High Market
1x Celestial Colonnade
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Seat of the Synod
1x Ancient Den
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Command Tower
1x Tundra
1x Academy Ruins
1x Sejiri Refuge
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Azorius Chancery
1x Mystic Gate
1x Inkmoth Nexus
1x Strip Mine
1x Maze of ith
1x Calciform Pools
1x Seachrome Coast
1x Reflecting Pool
1x Azorius Chancery
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Temple of the False God
1x Azorius Guildgate
1x Halimar Depths
1x Flooded strand
5x Island
6x Plains
after a long time of playing this deck I thought I would update it here. Its a great deck to play and I am still trying to improve it. Things I am looking out for is to improve its speed so I can do more combos early. So if you got any ideas let me know
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After going through all the forums yours is the one that really stood out and was hoping you would see this tbh lol.
I drew this up using your's as a base as i really liked the play style you set out. The question I have is do you think I need more search so I can bring up my combo's?
Also im still undecided what would help me more Tezzeret or the Imposter.
Once I have done a few play tests and see how the deck runs over a few weeks I will rework the first post in more detail with the deck and also credit going to you, just really wanted to get the people who played this kind of deck opionions and any improvements before Friday pops up again.
I run a fair amount of search and I like it. My main sources are Stoneforge Mystic and Tezzeret. Stoneforge grabs my Nim Deathmantle and my Skullclamp both of which I love. Too much search can dilute a deck though so I only run the two tutors.
Tezzeret is a beast and I would never cut him. I recently cut Sakashima for Glen Elendra Archmage. Untapping with Tezzeret can be lethal in my build because I can -2 and get Spawning Pit and next turn -2 for Nim Deathmantle. This makes infinite colorless mana if I have Rasputin out and infinite triggers on any other creature that I have in play. Plus you don't even have to use Tezzy to get combos, he can just grab artifact lands or something like Chromatic Lantern if you need the fixing.
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Muddle the Mixture is a decent counter spell while being a tutor for Nim Deathmantle and other cards.
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane for the awesome Sig.
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Also have a look at the deck list now, have i butched it to much so it won't run smoothly?
I'm not a huge fan of Sands of Delerium or Treskillion.
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GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
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I'm a draw fanatic but do you have enough draw engine?
This deck has been featured in Gathering Magic by Carlos Gutierrez
I use Treasure Mage to help me find it more often. I'm thinking about adding Fabricate too since I love Conjurer's Closet as well.
How are you not running Vanish into Memory? It was custom made for 'Putin decks. Draw 4, discard 1, reset dream counters!!
Speaking of blinking 'Putin, you're really light on blink effects. I only counted 7 out of 100 cards (I run 17 myself). Do you have issues with this or do you always go straight for the Deathmantle win?
Here are a few VIPs I love to see every game that you don't run.
The Angel is a instant speed Plague Wind for me. Same with the Whelk being a counter when needed. You do run a lot less blink than me so I can see you not using them. I just wanted to note how awesome they are in my deck.
Throw a Supreme Verdict in there over some spot removal, this is a multiplayer format.
I found my Sun Titan wasn't always hitting cards in the grave. I added these to make him more useful:
They don't hurt the deck on their own so nothing to lose really.
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Standard:
meh.
Modern:
Urzatron GR
Vintage:
Contol-Slaver UBR
EDH:
Drana B
Jhoira UR
Savra BG
Turned into:
Adun Oakenshield BGR
Sharuum BUW
Turned into:
Memnarch U
KiKi-Jiki R
Turned into:
Godo R
Turned into:
Aurelia RW
The Mimeoplasm UBG
Rasputin Dreamweaver UW
Turned into:
Geist of Saint Traft -French 1v1 UW
Nekusar UBR
I will have to look into the Planar Portal tutor every turn in win! Also totaly forgot about sunburst angel and will look into playing those. I am trying to get my hands on a Vanish into Memory I thought I had one and I cannot find one anywhere, but as soon as I find one it is going into the deck.
Another card that I want to go in the deck asap is Mnemonic Wall.
Rune Priest of Thrune yes I will put him in a trial him now things to take out of the deck is going to be the hard part. lol will be playing some games tongiht so will come back with more info
GWUBAtraxa, Praetor's Voice PrimerGWUB
GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
Run down of the games 1st was a 1v1 won with me milling him 53 cards with Sands and him giving up 2nd game I was mana screwed and he beat me down with large pointy sticks.
3rd game was multi very quick game as the green/white play had a very good starting hand and token swamed us all. 2nd multi game was drawn out and here where I was lacking card power to do any real game changers and lack but was left alone for most of it till i was left to last then i luckly drew into an inkmonth and had a jita with 8 counters on it for the infect win. 3rd multi was drawn out again and once again found i was lacking in draw to play any of my combos or to do anything with any real plays.
GWUBAtraxa, Praetor's Voice PrimerGWUB
GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
I'd run Eldrazi titans as well but my Jhoira deck already does that.
I second Recurring Insight, its always been good for me.
I also run Rhystic Study in any deck with blue. Mind's Eye is good for dudle decks too.
Propaganda is another card I run in every blue deck. We also get Ghostly Prison with white. They help me out early game, making the aggresive decks choose someone else to attack. Great against infinite token decks also.
B Lover Since '09 ~
Standard:
meh.
Modern:
Urzatron GR
Vintage:
Contol-Slaver UBR
EDH:
Drana B
Jhoira UR
Savra BG
Turned into:
Adun Oakenshield BGR
Sharuum BUW
Turned into:
Memnarch U
KiKi-Jiki R
Turned into:
Godo R
Turned into:
Aurelia RW
The Mimeoplasm UBG
Rasputin Dreamweaver UW
Turned into:
Geist of Saint Traft -French 1v1 UW
Nekusar UBR
Beware the theft effect if you do run Consecrated Sphinx.
Azure Mage is a good mana dumping, especially in your case since you have huge amount of instant. May I suggest Azami, Lady of Scroll? She is one of the best draw engine in this kind of deck because a lot of good creature you run are wizard.
Holy penguin of God! (Where does this come from?) 17!?
This deck has been featured in Gathering Magic by Carlos Gutierrez
lol, actually I'm down to 16 now. Removed a Otherworldly Journey for a Fabricate. It works for me!
Peregrine Drake is the name your looking for.
If your plan is a quick win, I'd take out the utility cards that are not a part of the plan. Just take out the "goodstuff" and make the deck more focused.
B Lover Since '09 ~
Standard:
meh.
Modern:
Urzatron GR
Vintage:
Contol-Slaver UBR
EDH:
Drana B
Jhoira UR
Savra BG
Turned into:
Adun Oakenshield BGR
Sharuum BUW
Turned into:
Memnarch U
KiKi-Jiki R
Turned into:
Godo R
Turned into:
Aurelia RW
The Mimeoplasm UBG
Rasputin Dreamweaver UW
Turned into:
Geist of Saint Traft -French 1v1 UW
Nekusar UBR