Alacar Leoricar wins the August FCC with this card:
Dreamweaver
Creature - Spirit (spells without mana costs can't be played.)
Dreamweaver is green and white
When Dreamweaver is revealed from your hand or library, put it into play tapped. She dances in the mind's eye.
Thanks to everyone in this contest. The judges, and especially to my opponents. No hard feelings, eh? I am humbled, as this was my first entry into the competition.
Expect to see Dreamweaver in Discord, set 3 of Academy block.
Congratulations! I thought it would be better if there was some restriction that you can only play it in a deck with green and white, but still, I thought this was the most elegantly-designed card even before the judges came in. I like it
Some clarifications:
The card is green and white for 3 reasons: 1) It's green because green is the best at searching your library (next to black, but that didn't fit the idea). 2) It's white because it's opposite black, which makes you discard cards the most (Duress = 1st turn 2/2) 3) Congregation at Dawn. 'Nuff said.
I probably would've changed the name if I'd looked over the card for the fifteenth time to 'Dream Dancer', but it still works on a certain level.
Also, I probably would've made the CIP ability a replacement effect so it doesn't get ruined by discard, but even still it does present a unique choice to your opponent--do they make you discard the (essentially) free 2/2 or another pertinent card?
Thanks all, again. Not only did I manage to win against the largest group of finalists ever so far for the FCC, but on my first attempt at the contest.
Hm, how would you put a specific card into play from a hidden zone, how does it interact with Reweave?
I believe this effect should behave like:
When Dreamweaver becomes revealed from your hand or library, search that hand or library for a card named Dreamweaver and put it into play tapped. If you searched your library this way, shuffle it.
If Dreamweaver would become revealed from your hand or library, remove it from the game instead. When it's removed from the game this way, put it into play tapped.
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You forgot the "When Dreamweaver comes into play, completely screw up all HTML you control" ability.
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I got it.
Congrats, Alacar!
I will say (but I'll only say this once and then let it go) that not having anything that ties the card to actually playing its colors (no mana costs, no basic land references, etc.) is a serious flaw and would pretty much automatically prevent this card from being printed as is. As I said before, though, this flaw is the least relevant to your card because it doesn't actually bend the pie; every color gets vanilla 2/2s.
Regardless, it is an elegant and beautiful card and I love it. Well done!
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Imagine a deck with no basic lands at all. Hermit Druid would read like G, T: Put 4 2/2 Green White Spirits in play
Nice card!
In such a deck, it already reads: "G, T: Put your libary in your graveyard", which is much more broken. Which is why Hermit Druid is such a powerful card.
You really just need to embrace the rage. I keep a small colony of hamsters next to my computer and every time I lose a match to mana screw I throw one against the wall.
Any chance this card'll go up on the front page? I want both my article on set creation and my card to be posted [/bragging]
As for the art, I got it from PolarBearGod's great thread, Fantasy Art for Card Creation. Props to him for the art find
D'awww thanks for the props Alacar, but more importantly, big congratulations to you on your win. I definitely like the art selection and the card itself.
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EDIT: Er, maybe not, what's the ruling on its synergy with CaD? Does the Dreamweaver go to the top of the library first, or is put into play first?
Speaking of the current GW cards, I have a question to rules gurus: does it work with Crown of Convergence? "Play with the top card of your library revealed": Does Dreamweaver's ability trigger when it becomes the top card of your library?
EDIT: Er, maybe not, what's the ruling on its synergy with CaD? Does the Dreamweaver go to the top of the library first, or is put into play first?
I'm not a rules expert but as far as I know it would play out as I described in my judgings: You play CaD and reveal three Dreamweavers. The Dreamweavers' ability triggers and goes on the stack. It can't resolve until CaD finishes resolving, though, so they go on top of your library. Then the triggers resolve and they go into play.
Speaking of the current GW cards, I have a question to rules gurus: does it work with Crown of Convergence? "Play with the top card of your library revealed": Does Dreamweaver's ability trigger when it becomes the top card of your library?
Yep, I believe so.
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I'm not a rules expert but as far as I know it would play out as I described in my judgings: You play CaD and reveal three Dreamweavers. The Dreamweavers' ability triggers and goes on the stack. It can't resolve until CaD finishes resolving, though, so they go on top of your library. Then the triggers resolve and they go into play.
hi im new to this thread, was checking the winner (congrats by the way) and decided to drop my thougts if its ok.
regarding the CaD, i dont think CaD would finish resolving, it would work more like ripple in that sense, ripple triggers goes to stack then revels you play and the new ripple triggers and so on, in the same way CaD reveals then this triggers and goes on the stack over CaD and put them in play, then you shuffle and put the cards(which are none any more) on top in any order. (if im right its a pretty funny way to respond to a blackmail).
rules gurus are better source of confirmation but i think im making sense.....right? (sorry if i aint).
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rules gurus are better source of confirmation but i think im making sense.....right? (sorry if i aint).
Did somebody call for a rules guru?
I'll start with a few rules that will help people understand how these things would work. Nothing can go on the stack and nobody gets priority while something is resolving. Things can trigger, but they will wait to go on the stack until the next time somebody would get priority (which is generally immediately after the original spell/ability finishes resolving).
So, Congregation at Dawn causes something very odd to happen, and as such, I'm not exactly sure what the result would be. The CaD would begin resolving, and you would search your library and reveal your creatures. At this point, the Dreamweaver's ability would trigger (but not go on the stack). Then you would finish resolving the CaD (putting the cards on top of your library in any order and then putting the CaD into your graveyard). At that point, SBEs will check (the active player is about to get priority), and will see the Dreamweaver trigger waiting, and put it on the stack.
When the trigger resolves, the weirdness begins. You are now trying to put a face-down card that is somewhere in the top three cards of your library into play tapped. So far as I know, there are no rules governing this type of interaction, but I would say that you would probably be able to put it into play because you know exactly where it is, but that is subject to interpretation (as this is not a card made by WotC, there won't be any official rulings to go by).
As for the Crown of Convergence, when Dreamweaver becomes the top card of your library, it will become revealed, causing it to trigger. When the trigger resolves, you would put it into play tapped (that's not a problem, it's face up on top of your library), and the next card will become the top card of your library and get revealed.
This is a little confusing (even for me, and I could have missed something here), but I hope that helped.
I realize that the wording on the card is highly confusing. As such, I should have made it a replacement effect like this:
'As Dreamweaver is revealed from your hand or library, put it into play tapped.' The word 'as', I believe, would have kept it from being a trigger.
I just didn't get to edit it
The question of why it is green and white is answered--it fits flavorfully, in my eyes. A spiritual creature that dances in the mind, waiting for a chance to come out into the real world. It is also green and white because of its enemy color, black, which will have better means of killing it than say if it were blue.
It's a weak premise, but it works.
edit: With Reweave, it depends on what is sacrificed. If a creature is sacrificed and a Dreamweaver is revealed, its ability will trigger, but by the time it goes on the stack, it'll be in play. Since it's already in play, the ability will have no effect. If it's NOT a creature, then if it's revealed it will trigger, be set aside, then come into play afterward. This is confusing because of the current wording.
With the updated replacement effect, it would be simple; as soon as it's revealed, it comes into play tapped, regardless of when it was revealed.
thanks Krashbot, just one more question, if a trigger would wait till the whole spell to resolve then why is it that ripple triggers go into the stack and that each new card played with ripple would resolve while the original spell hasnt finished resolving yet?
again sorry if im confusing.
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Dreamweaver
Creature - Spirit
(spells without mana costs can't be played.)
Dreamweaver is green and white
When Dreamweaver is revealed from your hand or library, put it into play tapped.
She dances in the mind's eye.
Congratulations.
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Expect to see Dreamweaver in Discord, set 3 of Academy block.
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As for the art, I got it from PolarBearGod's great thread, Fantasy Art for Card Creation. Props to him for the art find
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And indeed, nice art, great card, congrats all around.
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Because Lotus Bloom doesn't have it. (I wonder how many times I'll have to answer that question at the prerelease)
I must say that I honestly thought that Shadowfox's card wowed me the most and I thought would be the winner, but your card was great as well.
Good job.
Some clarifications:
The card is green and white for 3 reasons: 1) It's green because green is the best at searching your library (next to black, but that didn't fit the idea). 2) It's white because it's opposite black, which makes you discard cards the most (Duress = 1st turn 2/2) 3) Congregation at Dawn. 'Nuff said.
I probably would've changed the name if I'd looked over the card for the fifteenth time to 'Dream Dancer', but it still works on a certain level.
Also, I probably would've made the CIP ability a replacement effect so it doesn't get ruined by discard, but even still it does present a unique choice to your opponent--do they make you discard the (essentially) free 2/2 or another pertinent card?
Thanks all, again. Not only did I manage to win against the largest group of finalists ever so far for the FCC, but on my first attempt at the contest.
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I believe this effect should behave like:
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Congrats on the win
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I got it.
Congrats, Alacar!
I will say (but I'll only say this once and then let it go) that not having anything that ties the card to actually playing its colors (no mana costs, no basic land references, etc.) is a serious flaw and would pretty much automatically prevent this card from being printed as is. As I said before, though, this flaw is the least relevant to your card because it doesn't actually bend the pie; every color gets vanilla 2/2s.
Regardless, it is an elegant and beautiful card and I love it. Well done!
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In such a deck, it already reads: "G, T: Put your libary in your graveyard", which is much more broken. Which is why Hermit Druid is such a powerful card.
I like this one, really cool card. Good job!
D'awww thanks for the props Alacar, but more importantly, big congratulations to you on your win. I definitely like the art selection and the card itself.
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It works well with any existing deck that has Congregation at Dawn :).
EDIT: Er, maybe not, what's the ruling on its synergy with CaD? Does the Dreamweaver go to the top of the library first, or is put into play first?
Speaking of the current GW cards, I have a question to rules gurus: does it work with Crown of Convergence? "Play with the top card of your library revealed": Does Dreamweaver's ability trigger when it becomes the top card of your library?
I'm not a rules expert but as far as I know it would play out as I described in my judgings: You play CaD and reveal three Dreamweavers. The Dreamweavers' ability triggers and goes on the stack. It can't resolve until CaD finishes resolving, though, so they go on top of your library. Then the triggers resolve and they go into play.
Yep, I believe so.
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hi im new to this thread, was checking the winner (congrats by the way) and decided to drop my thougts if its ok.
regarding the CaD, i dont think CaD would finish resolving, it would work more like ripple in that sense, ripple triggers goes to stack then revels you play and the new ripple triggers and so on, in the same way CaD reveals then this triggers and goes on the stack over CaD and put them in play, then you shuffle and put the cards(which are none any more) on top in any order. (if im right its a pretty funny way to respond to a blackmail).
rules gurus are better source of confirmation but i think im making sense.....right? (sorry if i aint).
Did somebody call for a rules guru?
I'll start with a few rules that will help people understand how these things would work. Nothing can go on the stack and nobody gets priority while something is resolving. Things can trigger, but they will wait to go on the stack until the next time somebody would get priority (which is generally immediately after the original spell/ability finishes resolving).
So, Congregation at Dawn causes something very odd to happen, and as such, I'm not exactly sure what the result would be. The CaD would begin resolving, and you would search your library and reveal your creatures. At this point, the Dreamweaver's ability would trigger (but not go on the stack). Then you would finish resolving the CaD (putting the cards on top of your library in any order and then putting the CaD into your graveyard). At that point, SBEs will check (the active player is about to get priority), and will see the Dreamweaver trigger waiting, and put it on the stack.
When the trigger resolves, the weirdness begins. You are now trying to put a face-down card that is somewhere in the top three cards of your library into play tapped. So far as I know, there are no rules governing this type of interaction, but I would say that you would probably be able to put it into play because you know exactly where it is, but that is subject to interpretation (as this is not a card made by WotC, there won't be any official rulings to go by).
As for the Crown of Convergence, when Dreamweaver becomes the top card of your library, it will become revealed, causing it to trigger. When the trigger resolves, you would put it into play tapped (that's not a problem, it's face up on top of your library), and the next card will become the top card of your library and get revealed.
This is a little confusing (even for me, and I could have missed something here), but I hope that helped.
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'As Dreamweaver is revealed from your hand or library, put it into play tapped.' The word 'as', I believe, would have kept it from being a trigger.
I just didn't get to edit it
The question of why it is green and white is answered--it fits flavorfully, in my eyes. A spiritual creature that dances in the mind, waiting for a chance to come out into the real world. It is also green and white because of its enemy color, black, which will have better means of killing it than say if it were blue.
It's a weak premise, but it works.
edit: With Reweave, it depends on what is sacrificed. If a creature is sacrificed and a Dreamweaver is revealed, its ability will trigger, but by the time it goes on the stack, it'll be in play. Since it's already in play, the ability will have no effect. If it's NOT a creature, then if it's revealed it will trigger, be set aside, then come into play afterward. This is confusing because of the current wording.
With the updated replacement effect, it would be simple; as soon as it's revealed, it comes into play tapped, regardless of when it was revealed.
Thanks to everyone for their praise!
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It doesn't work correctly as a triggered ability. So ×Confusing → ○Incorrect.
Using "as" leads to another confusion here. I'd do:
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again sorry if im confusing.